webfact Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Samsung announces folding phone with 5G - at nearly $2,000 By Stephen Nellis and Paul Sandle Samsung's new Galaxy Fold smart phone which features the world's first 7.3-inch Infinity Flex Display that works with the next-generation 5G networks is seen in this image released in San Francisco, California, U.S. February 20, 2019. Courtesy Samsung/Handout via REUTERS SAN FRANCISCO/LONDON (Reuters) - Samsung Electronics Co Ltd on Wednesday unveiled a nearly $2,000 folding smartphone in a bid to top the technology of Apple Inc and Chinese rivals and reignite consumer interest amid slumping sales. The Galaxy Fold will go on sale on April 26 and take advantage of new and faster 5G mobile networks. The device looks similar to a conventional smartphone, but then opens like a book to reveal a display the size of a small tablet at 7.3 inches (18.5 cm). The device "answers sceptics who said that everything that could be done has been done," DJ Koh, chief executive of Samsung Electronics, said at an event in San Francisco. "We are here to prove them wrong." Samsung remains the world's largest smartphone maker with nearly a fifth of global unit sales but underperformed a slumping market last year. Chinese rival Huawei Technologies Co Ltd - whose Mate series of phones also command premium prices - gained market share. Other Chinese makers like Xiaomi Corp have also been increasing prices, leaving Samsung to defend its turf against upstart rivals in addition to its longtime foe Apple. With the foldable phone, Samsung is going on the offence on two fronts in the smartphone race: It is offering an eye-catching new feature with the big, bending screen and the first 5G connection in a premium phone, a feature analysts do not expect Apple to match until 2020. Samsung is also making improvements to its flagship Galaxy S devices and plans to offer a 4G version of its folding phone. It also challenges the notion of what a phone can cost, debuting at nearly twice the price of current top-of-the-line models from Apple and Samsung itself. Patrick Moorhead, founder of Moor Insights & Strategy, said the new folding device could help Samsung stay at the top and lure consumers to upgrade devices that have looked largely the same over the past five years. "Samsung and Apple go back and forth" to lead the premium smartphone market, Moorhead said. "I think this is Samsung's chance to take back the innovation crown." And even though the $1,980 starting price is steep, some dedicated Samsung fans said they would pay it. Navneet Kumar Singh, a Samsung enthusiast from India who travelled to San Francisco to watch the launch, is ready to place his order. "The prices of the flagship models have been a little aggressive in India," he said, "But in the end, if you invest the money you're getting a different experience." Samsung also introduced several accessories to compete against Apple, including a pair of wireless headphones called Galaxy Buds. The headphones include wireless charging, a feature that Apple has promised to put into is competing AirPods but has not yet released. Samsung also said that its new Galaxy phones will be able to wirelessly charge its headphones and new smartwatches by setting the accessories on the back of the phone. 10 TIMES FASTER Along with the folding phone, Samsung also added new cameras and a 5G version to its Galaxy series of phones. Verizon Communications Inc will be the first carrier to offer service for Samsung's 5G phones. The networks are expected to be 10 times faster than current ones, improving viewing of live news and sports events. With the 5G versions of its flagships, the Korean electronics maker looks to have beaten Chinese rivals in the 5G race, although the device will operate only on the small number of networks launching later this year. Apple is not expected to release a 5G smartphone until late 2020. The new networks are not available in many places yet but will roll out this year and next. Consumers who want to hold on to their phones for several years before upgrading may be tempted to buy a 5G phone now so that it will be able to take advantage of those networks later, said Bob O'Donnell of TECHnalysis Research. That could sway some Apple buyers over to Samsung and other Android makers with 5G devices. "People are going to be thinking about, am going to be able to use this a year from now? Two years from now? Three years?" he said. Rival smartphone makers are expected to announce 5G models at next week's Mobile World Congress, the industry's top annual event, in Spain. Samsung said its 5G handset would be available in the early summer. The Galaxy 10 series needs to appeal to consumers who are reluctant to upgrade for only incremental technological improvements in performance. All of the Galaxy series of rigid phones except the 5G will be available from March 8, with the S10+ priced from $1,000, the S10 priced from $900 and the smaller S10e from $750. The mainline S10 compares with $999 for Apple's iPhone XS and $858 for Huawei's premium Mate 20 Pro. (Reporting by Stephen Nellis and Paul Sandle; Editing by Lisa Shumaker) -- © Copyright Reuters 2019-02-21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 I think there will be a place for folding phones, but I hope people will be boycotting 5G products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivas Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 7 hours ago, canuckamuck said: I think there will be a place for folding phones, but I hope people will be boycotting 5G products. Whats the point of 5g in the first place Christ 3g works perfectly quickly to stream live youtube etc etc let alone 4g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brain150 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 5G is a weapons system ! Nothing to do with mobile phones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, brain150 said: 5G is a weapons system ! Nothing to do with mobile phones. Oh yes, tell us more please. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brain150 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, faraday said: Oh yes, tell us more please. ???? What you think what 25 GHz do to your body ? 2.4 GHz make you infertile according to many physicians all over the world. Scientists requested the total shutdown of ALL microwave technology in the US as early as 1971 due to the well known dramatic health issues in both humans and animals ! Going to 25-100 GHz is an assault on every being in the range of the network ! That's proven science and available to anybody who wants to know anything about it. ... but it's just so much fun to use your fancy iPhone or iPad or what ever mobile device. They are just all killing you [and all of us] - slowly but steadily !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 $2000 dolars, a niche market. Not for the general public. A little like HDTV ready back in the day. No 5 G networks opperational yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcarguy Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Who will be the first to have one on the BTS ? I really want a 4 panel one that folds out to iPad size Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ks45672 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 2 hours ago, oldcarguy said: Who will be the first to have one on the BTS ? I really want a 4 panel one that folds out to iPad size I want one that folds out the size of granddads Sunday newspaper.... I'll be the coolest person on the bts ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taichiplanet Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 18 hours ago, brain150 said: What you think what 25 GHz do to your body ? 2.4 GHz make you infertile according to many physicians all over the world. Scientists requested the total shutdown of ALL microwave technology in the US as early as 1971 due to the well known dramatic health issues in both humans and animals ! Going to 25-100 GHz is an assault on every being in the range of the network ! That's proven science and available to anybody who wants to know anything about it. ... but it's just so much fun to use your fancy iPhone or iPad or what ever mobile device. They are just all killing you [and all of us] - slowly but steadily !!! i am more concerned about breathing the air in Chang Mai or Bkk. Or getting hit by some crazy car/bike driver. There is a lot of misinformation on mobile phones and health issues; we could spend hours trading links to support either side but will never change each other's minds, so i won't bother. It's a bit like religion or what you believe about climate change. As for a folding phone; cool! But too expensive for this fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon43 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 What you think what 25 GHz do to your body ? etc etc With an MSc in Microwave Engineering from UCL (London University) and years of experience in the design of microwave and millimetric systems, I almost wet my pants with laughter when reading your post ???? RF (radio frequency) waves can be harmful to humans and other living organisms. It depends on the operating frequency, length of time of exposure to the RF and (especially) the power density (strength) of the RF power that the organism is exposed to, (which is affected by the directionality of the radiating antenna and how close to the radiating source the organism is). RF is used in the medical profession to reduce the size of tumours, or as a means to encourage the rapid recovery of damaged muscles. The power density radiated by mobile phones is - to use a technical term - bugger all, and unless you stick the radiating antenna close to your eyeball and chat for an hour - the medical risk is also BA. If microwave and/or millimetric radiation is so dangerous, how come I'm still healthy after years on working on high power RF systems?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Wicket Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, simon43 said: With an MSc in Microwave Engineering from UCL (London University) and years of experience in the design of microwave and millimetric systems, I almost wet my pants with laughter when reading your post ???? RF (radio frequency) waves can be harmful to humans and other living organisms. It depends on the operating frequency, length of time of exposure to the RF and (especially) the power density (strength) of the RF power that the organism is exposed to, (which is affected by the directionality of the radiating antenna and how close to the radiating source the organism is). RF is used in the medical profession to reduce the size of tumours, or as a means to encourage the rapid recovery of damaged muscles. The power density radiated by mobile phones is - to use a technical term - bugger all, and unless you stick the radiating antenna close to your eyeball and chat for an hour - the medical risk is also BA. If microwave and/or millimetric radiation is so dangerous, how come I'm still healthy after years on working on high power RF systems?? 5G will be a revolution and will propel mankind forward to achieve things we never thought possible. You can't stop progress and it will happen even if there are health concerns. The main one being the frequencies being used and the fact that those frequencies don't pass through walls etc very well. Therefore there will be a lot more towers everywhere. Science will advance so quickly with 5g in the next 25 years, so that will counter any health negatives. In fact any health problems caused by 5G will paradoxically be cured by the access to 5G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreaming Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 just get some 2x magnifying eye glasses. Does the same thing for 100 baht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreytom Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 $2,000?! I would rather buy a computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Content, content, content? What content does 5G have that 4G or 3G doesn't? Still if people are stupid enough to buy them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ks45672 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 1 hour ago, VocalNeal said: Content, content, content? What content does 5G have that 4G or 3G doesn't? Still if people are stupid enough to buy them! Potential... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelseafan Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 On 2/21/2019 at 9:52 AM, brain150 said: What you think what 25 GHz do to your body ? 2.4 GHz make you infertile according to many physicians all over the world. Scientists requested the total shutdown of ALL microwave technology in the US as early as 1971 due to the well known dramatic health issues in both humans and animals ! Going to 25-100 GHz is an assault on every being in the range of the network ! That's proven science and available to anybody who wants to know anything about it. ... but it's just so much fun to use your fancy iPhone or iPad or what ever mobile device. They are just all killing you [and all of us] - slowly but steadily !!! Can you show me where the conclusive proof is ? I'm not doubting you but as far as I can tell there is scientific evidence to say that mobile phones are bad for your health. Besides, a day in the Bangkok smog is probably far worse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trd Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 What you think what 25 GHz do to your body ? 2.4 GHz make you infertile according to many physicians all over the world. Scientists requested the total shutdown of ALL microwave technology in the US as early as 1971 due to the well known dramatic health issues in both humans and animals ! Going to 25-100 GHz is an assault on every being in the range of the network ! That's proven science and available to anybody who wants to know anything about it. ... but it's just so much fun to use your fancy iPhone or iPad or what ever mobile device. They are just all killing you [and all of us] - slowly but steadily !!!Oh God another conspiracy theorist. Keep away from YouTube!! Try to get out more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zleo99 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 On 2/22/2019 at 6:59 AM, simon43 said: With an MSc in Microwave Engineering from UCL (London University)..... Hello fellow DUC, I have an MSc in Hydrogeology from UCL!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcarguy Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 On 2/21/2019 at 9:12 PM, Sticky Wicket said: 5G will be a revolution and will propel mankind forward to achieve things we never thought possible. You can't stop progress and it will happen even if there are health concerns....,.. I do not see 5g being everywhere , just too many cell sites needed for areas with few people. Will your self driving car be able to drive down a mountain trail with no 5g that it can talk too ? Time will tell.,. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stocky Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Huawei have announced a thinner more elegant folding screen for their Mate X. But at €2,299 I'm not about to be trading up from my Huawei P9. https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/24/18238269/huawei-foldable-phone-mate-x-price-release-date-specs-mwc-2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 On 2/22/2019 at 11:59 AM, simon43 said: If microwave and/or millimetric radiation is so dangerous, how come I'm still healthy after years on working on high power RF systems?? Yes. Both of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdiddy Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 4G spectrum will be refarmed for 5G eventually, current 5G systems being installed are 3500mhz in Australia mmwave 5G is still a long way off and is only useful for fixed wireless/external antenna systems at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stud858 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 I just ordered an SKG S1 3gb ram 6" phone from Lazada. Amazingly cheap. 2380 shipped with free power bank. From official store. I think I'll order another and some kind of hinge and make my own foldable. Just need to find some software that supports two phones into one. Just realised it would support 4 Sim cards and two SD cards with cameras all over. Much better than galaxy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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