webfact Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Beware revealing graphic details of charcoal suicides, media is warned By The Nation FILE PHOTO FOLLOWING a significant number of recent charcoal-burning suicides in Thailand, the Public Health Ministry’s Mental Health Department is urging the media to avoid giving too many details of how the deaths occurred, out of fear that such reports could lead to copycat deaths. There were three such incidents on Monday and Tuesday of this week alone: two led to the person dying and the third saw a man being rescued just in time. Mental Health Department chief Dr Kiattiphum Wongrajit said yesterday that reporting of suicides had recently been more frequent, especially those committed by burning charcoal. He said some people, being repeatedly exposed to fine details of such suicide methods and pictures in the media, might resort to attempting to kill themselves in the same way. Kiattiphum pleaded for the media’s cooperation in doing their bit to prevent more suicides, especially those using identical methods, and urged the media to be mindful of the danger when publishing reports of suicides and avoid going into too much detail or providing graphic images. He also suggested that people be alert for friends and family who exhibit any signs of depression, sadness, insomnia, negative views or anything else implying they were having suicidal thoughts, in what they said or posted on social media. “If you notice such signs, please talk to the person, offer your help and encouragement to him or her, invite him or her to take part in activities outside,” he said, “or seek help from public health facilities or the mental health hotline 1323 or the department’s smart phone application for suicide prevention namely ‘sabaijai’”. Charcoal-burning suicide, a method more popular among men, accounted for 0.1 per cent of all suicide cases in Thailand from 1997-2017, said the department’s Suicide Prevention Centre. The three charcoal-burning suicide cases this week started on Monday with the death of 70-year-old Sompong Siririn, father of Paradox rock band bassist Jakkapong “Song” Siririn. He was found inside his car, which was parked at his home in Nonthaburi, along with a burned-out “Ang Lo” charcoal stove. Police suspect Sompong committed suicide during the early hours, while family members were asleep, because of stress over chronic pain after suffering a fall two years ago. A 31-year-old woman, reportedly suffering stress over a large overdue debt from football gambling, was found dead in her car at 6pm on Monday along with a pot of burned-out charcoal. The car was parked at a gas station in Ayutthaya’s Ban Pa-in district. The following morning, a 37-year-old Phitsanulok-based finance company employee was found unconscious and with a weak pulse in his car, which was filled with smoke from burned charcoal in a pot. The car was parked behind a temple crematorium in Nakhon Sawan’s Muang district. His wife said the man suffered stress due to his work and from the family’s financial problems. There were also three charcoal-burning suicide cases last month. On the night of January 31, a 30-year-old fruit orchard farmer was found dead in an apparent suicide in his locked pick-up truck that was parked on the side of Highway No 317 in Chanthaburi’s Muang district, also next to a burned-out charcoal stove. A 33-year-old woman, who was four months’ pregnant and reportedly suffering from depression, was found dead on January 23 in her car, parked in an isolated spot in Nakhon Ratchasima’s Muang district. Police again ruled it as a suicide case after finding a burned-out charcoal stove inside the car and because there were no signs of the woman having been in a struggle. On January 3, a 46-year-old engineer was found dead, again with a burned-out charcoal stove, a pack of sleeping pills and a suicide note, in his car in Nakhon Pathom’s Bang Len district. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30364540 -- © Copyright The Nation 2019-02-22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 2 hours ago, webfact said: Beware revealing graphic details of charcoal suicides, media is warned Followed by a picture and details of what to use to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LomSak27 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 They can just click on the Japanese and Korean News sites, if they want details. It is a lot less painful than insecticide drinking though. So it is a concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HLover Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 4 hours ago, webfact said: urged the media to be mindful of the danger when publishing reports of suicides and avoid going into too much detail or providing graphic images. Unless a hapless farang turns his own lights out; then it's free flowing photos and finger pointing frolicking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Lol, the whole article just goes on to do precisely what the Mental Health Department sensibly asked media outlets not to do! The Nation's article is an appalling piece of editorial judgement. Where do they find these people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotBenz8888 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 And stop revealing graphic details of balconies and bridges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delgarcon Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Details here; locked car and a pot for the charcoal to hiss in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mukdahanman Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Before I read the story, I thought they’d beaten themselves to death with a lump of coal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Suicide is an inalienable right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger70 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Isn't it up to each individual to make the choice how one want's to Check out and leave this World If one wants to they Will find a way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Just now, digger70 said: Isn't it up to each individual to make the choice how one want's to Check out and leave this World If one wants to they Will find a way. There is already individual choice. Your post ignores the fact that human psyche and mood are very strongly affected by the emotional environment and the fact that one can feel suicidal one day and much recovered the next. This is why radio stations try to focus on the positive and avoid playing songs that have titles and lyrics linked to recent disasters and atrocities. This is why in developed nations suicides are generally not reported or reported obliquely. There is a wealth of statistical evidence showing the copycat effect of suicides. This is why mental health referrals spike after news of an atrocity. No man is an island and the Thai media has a role to play in responsible reporting as reporters do in other countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger70 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, Briggsy said: There is already individual choice. Your post ignores the fact that human psyche and mood are very strongly affected by the emotional environment and the fact that one can feel suicidal one day and much recovered the next. This is why radio stations try to focus on the positive and avoid playing songs that have titles and lyrics linked to recent disasters and atrocities. This is why in developed nations suicides are generally not reported or reported obliquely. There is a wealth of statistical evidence showing the copycat effect of suicides. This is why mental health referrals spike after news of an atrocity. No man is an island and the Thai media has a role to play in responsible reporting as reporters do in other countries. That's a bit far fetched I think . if you think that, there must be a lot of, soft in the head ones about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 1 minute ago, digger70 said: That's a bit far fetched I think . if you think that, there must be a lot of, soft in the head ones about. Educate yourself " Many people have a difficult time understanding why the words we use are so important, especially on a topic like suicide. ...." https://www.nami.org/Blogs/NAMI-Blog/June-2018/Why-Suicide-Reporting-Guidelines-Matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Just now, Father Fintan Stack said: No need for a BBQ, just a bit of hosepipe connected to the exhaust and Somchai's yer uncle. Which is more likely to be noticed by a passerby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, Father Fintan Stack said: You think a Thai would know what the effects of carbon monoxide are? LOL. A hosepipe leading from the exhaust into a window with the motor running might arouse suspicion. What gas is produced when burning charcoal if not carbon monoxide? All you have to know is it can kill you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 yeah I mean who uses the internet to search how to do this eh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 4 hours ago, Briggsy said: Lol, the whole article just goes on to do precisely what the Mental Health Department sensibly asked media outlets not to do! The Nation's article is an appalling piece of editorial judgement. Where do they find these people? Thailand !! nuff said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest1 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 charcoal deaths are not exactly rocket science... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Father Fintan Stack said: No need for a BBQ, just a bit of hosepipe connected to the exhaust and Somchai's yer uncle. 2 hours ago, giddyup said: Which is more likely to be noticed by a passerby? Nah, they'll think it's just an environmental friendly car owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Charcoal-burning suicide, a method more popular among men, accounted for 0.1 per cent of all suicide cases in Thailand from 1997-2017, said the department’s Suicide Prevention Centre. Much ado about next to nothing, statistically speaking. But no surprise that charcoal is becoming an increasingly popular alternative to all those other nasty, messy ways of meeting your Maker prematurely. Having a barbecued Isan sausage or two before reclining the seat and drifting permanently into the Land of Nod clearly beats jumping off a high-rise building, slashing your wrists or choking to death in a home-made noose. Ricky Gervais was right in stating recently that we should be able to access the means to end an unendurable life. Until there's a "happy pill" available for this purpose man will just go on using his ingenuity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seahorse Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Maybe it's becoming more popular because it's painless and easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickudon Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Breathing car exhaust gases isn't all that pleasant, a charcoal fire (as long as you wait for the smoke to burn off) is ok. I'm off to buy a charcoal pot now, it will keep until i need it ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 10 hours ago, Father Fintan Stack said: No need for a BBQ, just a bit of hosepipe connected to the exhaust and Somchai's yer uncle. Yes, but you can't make a hamburger from car exhaust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 "Beware revealing graphic details of charcoal suicides, media is warned" This public service announcement brought to you by Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 10 hours ago, digger70 said: That's a bit far fetched I think . if you think that, there must be a lot of, soft in the head ones about. Yes. And probably increasing in number because of the selfish attitude of society . For the terminally ill and those in incurable severe chronic/acute pain that the desire to bring an early end can be understood. Suicide in those situations are probably less traumatic in outcome similar to natural cause. But suicide for emotional cause has a much more traumatic effect especially involving young people. By emotional cause I mean the whole gambit of emotional stress. The variants involved in family situations , educational expectations, general social expectations, employment, financial...all of which have an effect on the individual's induced perception of self worth so often influenced by social environment. All of us have some tendency to labile emotional highs and lows. Sadly if a low coincides with an emotional crisis, as perceived by an individual, the thought of suicide as a means to escape over rides the instinct for self preservation. So "soft in the head" may be an accurate but temporary and fatal description. "Hard Doers" may scoff but need understand a good percentage of same such are among the statistical count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorSucker Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 14 hours ago, Father Fintan Stack said: No need for a BBQ, just a bit of hosepipe connected to the exhaust and Somchai's yer uncle. You need a car from the 70's for that. Modern cars will not produce enough co2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djayz Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 If somebody really wants to end his/her life, they'll find a way - charcoal or no charcoal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djayz Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 17 hours ago, fforest1 said: charcoal deaths are not exactly rocket science... Up until I read this article today, I'd never even heard of it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Good idea, you could have your last burger and go out with a bang(er).Sent from my SM-G920F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Looks like a lot of farangs will be walking on hot coals before buying the bag of charcoal ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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