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2 hours ago, GarryP said:

I have attached the form you will need to make the change of hospital. It may save you some time trying to find it elsewhere.

Thanks GarryP.....cheers

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The pink card is Thai ID card for foreigners. Similiar to ID card for Thai citizens but pink in color.

 

To get one you must have a yellow tabian ban.  So would have to wait until you move, when you do I suggest you make landlord's willingness to help you get tabian ban a condition of rental.  Aside from SS, yellow tabian ban/ pink ID card is used as proof of address for immigration, and pink card can be used as ID. The pibnk card is tied to your tabian ban so no need to show the tabian ban once you have the pink card and it is more convenient to carry.

 

Ampurs vary but to get the yellow tabian ban you usually need:

 

a translation of your passport

landlord/house owner's ID and blue tabian ban and they will ususally need to come along in person

some Ampurs may ask for more

 

Pink card is obtained in a flash once you have the tabian ban

 

Re SS, they recently shifted from use of cards to an electronic system and it contains a field for ID number. I believe there is a work around for foreigners - maybe entering passport number or something. It can be done but most functionaries do not know how to. They just see a form asking for an ID number and if you don't have ID they will say they can't do it (worse yet, some have told people not to worry, just show your passport at the hospital but without having registered them through the system in that hospital).

 

Get the pink card if you can. If you cannot, call the main SS office but it may be a bit of a hassle.

 

 

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15 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

The pink card is Thai ID card for foreigners. Similiar to ID card for Thai citizens but pink in color.

 

To get one you must have a yellow tabian ban.  So would have to wait until you move, when you do I suggest you make landlord's willingness to help you get tabian ban a condition of rental.  Aside from SS, yellow tabian ban/ pink ID card is used as proof of address for immigration, and pink card can be used as ID. The pibnk card is tied to your tabiuan ban so no need for the tabian ban once yo uhave thep ink card and it is more convenient to carry.

 

Ampurs vary but to get the yellow tabian ban you usually need:

 

a translation of your passport

landlord/house owner's ID and blue tabian ban and they will ususally need to come along in person

some Ampurs may ask for more

 

Pink card is obtained in a flash once you have the tabian ban

 

Re SS, they recently shifted form use of cards to an electronic system and it contains a field for ID number. I believe there is a work around for foreigners - maybe entering passport number or something. It can be done but most functionaries do nto know how to. They just see a form asking for an ID number and if you don't have ID they will say they can't do it (worse yet, some have told people not to worry, just show your passport at the hospital but without having registered them through the system in that hospital).

 

get the pink card if you can. If you cannot, call the main SS office but it may be a bit of a hassle.

Thank so much Sheryl...very surprised at that info, Ive been here for 10 years and never heard of the Pink Card....anyway i will follow you advice when i relocate

 

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The Thai Social Security Card is pink.

 

The other pink card is the foreigner version of a Thai ID card. You can get if you or your marriage-by-paper wife has a property Blue Book. You first need to get a Yellow book through your local Tabian office. Then you go to your local community office with your Yellow book that issues Thai ID's.

 

The local Tabian offices are kind of like the Thai immigration office and all have their own interpretations of the requirements. At mine the lady insisted I needed a 90-day report receipt in my passport. At the time, I was working and travelled outside of Thailand every 2 weeks. Tried to explain that to her, but to no avail. So I went to the Thai Immigration in Jomtien and they thought I was crazy. Took a while to convince them, but finally got one. The old saying TiT was in order.

 

Love Thailand, except anytime you have to get involved with any form of the government.

 

K. Ken

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Final update.

 

I got a letter from the Thai Social Security office informing me that I will be covered by the Thai Social Security medical program commencing June 15, 2019, which is the day my current coverage under my former employer expires. They take 432 baht out of my savings account monthly, that I registered during the application process. 

 

They also gave me a new Thai Social Security number which is the same as on my pink Thai ID card. That maybe their work around that Sheryl referred to in her post above.

 

So any of you that worked and paid into the system get an answer from your local Social Security office that you are not entitled, ask to see the Supervisor of the office. If still get a no answer, contact the main office in Bangkok. Not sure how long you need to have been paying into the system to qualify, but I worked from August 2010 to December 2018. Just apply once you leave employment within the 6-month period.

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On 3/20/2019 at 10:42 AM, GarryP said:

I was with Kluaynam Thai, but this year changed to Huachiew. I wanted to get in at Chula, the Police Hospital or Ramathibodi but they are all full and even when people move out, they are not accepting replacements.  I will try moving again next year and so on until I retire.

GarryP thank you for posting the list of hospitals in Bangkok.

 

Does this list come from the SSO, do they publish it online (in Thai)?

 

And just on the off chance that you can comment about a hospital to choose. I am about to register for voluntary contributions after my employment was terminated. As it happens #2 'Kluaynamthai' is the one nearest to my home, otherwise perhaps #23 'Petcharavej' or #24 'Dr. Panya General'. I have not heard anything of either. Why did you move away from #2? Any other comment or recommendation for a choice possible at all?

 

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On 2/24/2019 at 1:25 PM, orientalist said:

Normally you choose a hospital in your area, but the big government hospitals all have a full quota so you are left with small private hospitals. Kluay Nam Thai is not a good hospital!

orientalist, 'Kluay Nam Thai' happens to be reasonably near to my home. I am about to register for voluntary contributions and will have to choose a hospital. Distance would be an important factor for me, but seeing your comment i thought i'd better check.

Any specific reason why you stated this, e.g. are they not equipped for specific conditions etc?

P.S. Feel free to send as DM if you prefer not to post on here.

 

Many thanks

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7 minutes ago, fcbkk said:

GarryP thank you for posting the list of hospitals in Bangkok.

 

Does this list come from the SSO, do they publish it online (in Thai)?

 

And just on the off chance that you can comment about a hospital to choose. I am about to register for voluntary contributions after my employment was terminated. As it happens #2 'Kluaynamthai' is the one nearest to my home, otherwise perhaps #23 'Petcharavej' or #24 'Dr. Panya General'. I have not heard anything of either. Why did you move away from #2? Any other comment or recommendation for a choice possible at all?

 

You can get the list from the sso.go.th website, but you will need to login. Not sure if that is possible if you are not Thai. Not sure if this link will work for you. https://www.sso.go.th/wpr/assets/upload/files_storage/sso_th/618a0f1ce5e2d9db10ab2b40d853a312.pdf

 

I do not rate Kluaynamthai very highly for SSO. Most of the big government hospitals would be better, but the best are already full. I wanted to get in to Chula or Rama, but there was just no way.  

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29 minutes ago, GarryP said:

You can get the list from the sso.go.th website, but you will need to login. Not sure if that is possible if you are not Thai. Not sure if this link will work for you. https://www.sso.go.th/wpr/assets/upload/files_storage/sso_th/618a0f1ce5e2d9db10ab2b40d853a312.pdf

 

I do not rate Kluaynamthai very highly for SSO. Most of the big government hospitals would be better, but the best are already full. I wanted to get in to Chula or Rama, but there was just no way.  

Thank you.

 

I do not have a login for the SSO site. The link successfully produced a pdf, it will just take me some time to practice and speed up my Thai reading ability.

 

As for a hospital to choose, well, i will face the same dilemma that i will not be able to choose Chula or the Police hospital, as they are full. I have no info of any other hospital at present, so in the absence of any more concrete info perhaps it is best to choose 'Kluaynamthai' as the one nearest my home.

 

Once again thanks for all info provided! cheers

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1 minute ago, fcbkk said:

Thank you.

 

I do not have a login for the SSO site. The link successfully produced a pdf, it will just take me some time to practice and speed up my Thai reading ability.

 

As for a hospital to choose, well, i will face the same dilemma that i will not be able to choose Chula or the Police hospital, as they are full. I have no info of any other hospital at present, so in the absence of any more concrete info perhaps it is best to choose 'Kluaynamthai' as the one nearest my home.

 

Once again thanks for all info provided! cheers

You could choose Kluaynamthai to start with and take your time with research. You can then change in January to a new hospital.

 

I changed to Huachiew in Jan 2019, but in Jan 2020 I might change to Lertsin. 

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8 minutes ago, GarryP said:

You could choose Kluaynamthai to start with and take your time with research. You can then change in January to a new hospital.

 

I changed to Huachiew in Jan 2019, but in Jan 2020 I might change to Lertsin. 

 

Yes exactly, i have no current known needs, hence local cover nearby seems to matter more than perhaps better specialist care further away. 

 

As for choosing Huachiew then Lertsin what drives your choices?

Any info about the Mission Hospital? 

 

Thanks 

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1 hour ago, fcbkk said:

 

Yes exactly, i have no current known needs, hence local cover nearby seems to matter more than perhaps better specialist care further away. 

 

As for choosing Huachiew then Lertsin what drives your choices?

Any info about the Mission Hospital? 

 

Thanks 

I was in a rush and Lertsin was only suggested after I already signed up with Huachiew. However, I have heard that Huachiew is okay. Never tried either of them actually.

 

No information on the Mission. 

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14 hours ago, GarryP said:

I was in a rush and Lertsin was only suggested after I already signed up with Huachiew. However, I have heard that Huachiew is okay. Never tried either of them actually.

 

No information on the Mission. 

 

Thanks for all the responses and info GarryP. Best of luck for the choice of hospitals.

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On 2/24/2019 at 6:10 PM, pogal said:

I agree that KluayNumThai is not a good hospital! Search around for a better one.

 

pogal i just saw that you commented on this specific hospital also. As it is the nearest to where i live i wonder if i should select this, as there seems no alternative in the area? Any specific reason why you advise against it? Any suggestion for better alternative nearby? Feel free to send any info via DM if you prefer. Many thanks.

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