rooster59 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 North Korea's Kim begins long train trip to Vietnam for summit with Trump - report By Ju-min Park and Soyoung Kim FILE PHOTO: North Korean leader Kim Jong Un speaks at the Ministry of the People's Armed Forces on occasion of the 71st anniversary of the Korean People's Army (KPA) in Pyongyang, North Korea in this February 8, 2019 KCNA Photo. KCNA via REUTERS/File Photo HANOI (Reuters) - North Korean leader Kim Jong Un set off by train for Vietnam on Saturday, for his second summit with U.S. President Donald Trump next week, media reported, and hours later, two witnesses saw a train crossing into China from North Korea. The reports of Kim's departure from North Korea came after Vietnam announced that Kim would make an official visit in "coming days", as the Southeast Asian country prepares to host the summit with Trump on Wednesday and Thursday. No details of the leaders' travel arrangements, or for the summit, have been officially released. Trump and Kim will meet in the Vietnamese capital, Hanoi, eight months after their historic summit in Singapore in June - the first between a sitting U.S. president and a North Korean leader - at which they pledged to work towards the complete denuclearisation of the Korean peninsula. But progress has been scant since then. The Trump administration has pressed North Korea to give up its nuclear weapons programme, which threatens the United States, before it can expect any concessions. North Korea wants an easing of punishing U.S.-led sanctions, security guarantees and a formal end of the 1950-1953 Korean War, which ended in a truce, not a treaty. Kim left the North Korean capital of Pyongyang at around 5 p.m. (0800 GMT) in an armoured train, Russia's TASS news agency said, citing a North Korean diplomatic source. North Korea's state media has yet to confirm either Kim's trip to Vietnam or his summit with Trump. Two witnesses in the Chinese border city of Dandong, where the main rail line from North Korea arrives in China, said a train had crossed the Yalu River into China at around 9.30 p.m. (1330 GMT). South Korea's Yonhap news agency and broadcaster YTN also reported that a train suspected to be carrying Kim had arrived in Dandong. Chinese security chased away people trying to take photographs, one witness said. It was unclear if Kim was on the train. China has declined to answer questions about Kim's travel plans via the country. It could take Kim at least two and a half days to travel the thousands of kilometres through China by train to Vietnam. TRAIN SPOTTING A senior security official in Vietnam told Reuters that Hanoi had been expecting a Vietnam-bound train to depart Pyongyang on Saturday, but did not know if Kim Jong Un himself was on board. Two sources with direct knowledge of security and logistics planning told Reuters on Wednesday that Vietnam was preparing for Kim to arrive by train. His train was expected to stop at the Vietnamese border station of Dong Dang, where he will disembark and drive 170 km (105 miles) to Hanoi by car, the sources told Reuters. Vietnamese police have stepped up security around the border station. On Feb. 26, Vietnam will ban traffic on the road Kim is expected to take to Hanoi from a station on the Chinese border, state media said. Travel by train has been a favourite mode of transport for Kim Jong Un, and his father, Kim Jong Il, and grandfather, Kim Il Sung. In 1958, Kim Il Sung went from Pyongyang to Beijing by train, then flew from Beijing to Hanoi in a plane provided by China, South Korea's Yonhap News Agency reported on Saturday citing archived Chinese media reports. QUESTIONS The summit in Hanoi comes amid some questions about prospects for progress. American intelligence officials have said they believe Kim is unlikely to ever relinquish all of his nuclear arsenal, and U.N. monitors have reported that in recent months North Korea had taken steps to hide, disperse and protect its weapons. But a former U.S. intelligence officer, who helped arrange the first summit, predicted on Friday the second summit would be more productive than the first, quoting Kim Jong Un as saying last year he did not want his children to live with the burden of nuclear weapons. [L3N20I05O] Kim is visiting Vietnam at the invitation of President Nguyen Phu Trong, who is also general secretary of the ruling Communist Party, Vietnam's foreign ministry said in a statement earlier on Saturday, but it gave no further details. The preferred location for the summit is the Government Guesthouse, a colonial-era building in central Hanoi, three sources told Reuters on Wednesday. -- © Copyright Reuters 2019-02-24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Why not fly?if you devote enough resources to develope icbms surely you can feed your people and keep the planes flying ya criminal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 39 minutes ago, Tug said: Why not fly?if you devote enough resources to develope icbms surely you can feed your people and keep the planes flying ya criminal IIRC, he's scared of flying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopDeadSenter Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 This is perhaps the most significant meeting of 2 heads of state ever. Full credit to Trump for arranging this historic summit, just 3 years ago the possibility of such a meeting would have been scoffed at. Yet 2 years into Trumps first term here we are. Incredible. Yet what is unbearably sad is that many of the left would seemingly prefer nuclear war to break out than concede Trump is indeed the master of the deal. He is making the world a far safer place - let us not forget that when Trump won his election residents of Japan and Guam were preparing for nuclear armaggeddon. Good luck to the two men and their teams. Who cares why Kim didn't fly or what color Trump is. Who cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HLover Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said: Full credit to Trump for arranging this historic summit, Melodramatic, he deserves half of the credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 An inflammatory insulting post has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 31 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said: This is perhaps the most significant meeting of 2 heads of state ever. Full credit to Trump for arranging this historic summit, just 3 years ago the possibility of such a meeting would have been scoffed at. Yet 2 years into Trumps first term here we are. Incredible. Yet what is unbearably sad is that many of the left would seemingly prefer nuclear war to break out than concede Trump is indeed the master of the deal. He is making the world a far safer place - let us not forget that when Trump won his election residents of Japan and Guam were preparing for nuclear armaggeddon. Good luck to the two men and their teams. Who cares why Kim didn't fly or what color Trump is. Who cares. Holey cow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tug said: Holey cow Was it shot at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfd101 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 A new version of the Long March. The CCP will be jealous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 with any luck, Chinese manufacture 'quality' may fix things... should have taken the Geely... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Its called mass transit for a good reason ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeray Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Tug said: Why not fly?if you devote enough resources to develope icbms surely you can feed your people and keep the planes flying ya criminal "feed your people" ! (they're only being allowed half rations of grass and tree bark) "North Korea says it is facing a food shortage for 2019 that will require rations be reduced by almost half for its citizens."(MSN). https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/north-korea-cutting...rations.../ar-BBTVxQ1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 54 minutes ago, mfd101 said: A new version of the Long March. The CCP will be jealous. Yeah, it will take most of that month to get there on the train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeray Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 The train will give him lots of time to figure out how best he stick handle Donald. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 4 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said: This is perhaps the most significant meeting of 2 heads of state ever. Did you miss the most significant meeting of 2 heads of state ever in Singapore last year? Or is that now being discounted as nothing significant actually was accomplished? At least for the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 While Trump says he's in no rush' to see Pyongyang give up nuclear weapons even as it continues to develop its nuclear weapons program (contrast this with Trump's criticism of President Barack Obama’s policy of “strategic patience” as Pyongyang increased its nuclear and missile capabilities), I'm sure he wants some very tangible results before year-end on North Korea denuclearization as a prelude to the POTUS election in 2020. Presenting himself as an international peacemaker might make a powerful election campaign promotion. To that end he may rush to make upfront one-sided concessions for Kim's pledges. Kim seems to understand Trump's political strategy: If the United States “responds to our proactive, prior efforts with trustworthy measures and corresponding practical actions, bilateral relations will develop wonderfully at a fast pace through the taking of more definite and epochal measures,” - Kim Jong Un https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2019-01/news/stakes-grow-possible-trump-kim-summit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelsall Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 More winning for President Trump. Peace on the peninsula. People in Asia are relieved that KJU is no longer shooting off missiles. Thank you President Trump! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtHay Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 This is perhaps the most significant meeting of 2 heads of state ever. Full credit to Trump for arranging this historic summit, just 3 years ago the possibility of such a meeting would have been scoffed at. Yet 2 years into Trumps first term here we are. Incredible. Yet what is unbearably sad is that many of the left would seemingly prefer nuclear war to break out than concede Trump is indeed the master of the deal. He is making the world a far safer place - let us not forget that when Trump won his election residents of Japan and Guam were preparing for nuclear armaggeddon. Good luck to the two men and their teams. Who cares why Kim didn't fly or what color Trump is. Who cares.It’s not a matter of preferring nuclear war. It’s concern arising out of the realization by many that this meeting is between a American President who desperately wants a historic diplomatic win at any cost as a legacy for an otherwise rocky presidency and the head of an authoritarian state who welcomes the opportunity to lend his regime legitimacy.Sent from my iPad using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Bob Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Let the BAD HAIR competition begin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargeezr Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Lets see, a train ride to China, then a full train of supplies from Bejieng back to North Korea, hmmm, wonder who may not have thought of this reason for the train... Hope they have another good visit, wonder if Dennis will be joining. Geezer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
None The Wiser Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 vietnam is nice place, nice people and nice food. I like vietnam very much, thank you for happy holiday in 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Some off topic posts have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Trump finally going to Vietnam? Those bonespurs must have healed themselves... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 11 minutes ago, samran said: Trump finally going to Vietnam? Those bonespurs must have healed themselves... Trumps single handedly taking on North Korea , leaving his army at home and saying "Let me handle this" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 11 minutes ago, sanemax said: Trumps single handedly taking on North Korea , leaving his army at home and saying "Let me handle this" We will see I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 14 hours ago, Tug said: Why not fly?if you devote enough resources to develope icbms surely you can feed your people and keep the planes flying ya criminal I suppose he has seen enough of them fall out of the sky... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 6 hours ago, Stargrazer9889 said: Lets see, a train ride to China, then a full train of supplies from Bejieng back to North Korea, hmmm, wonder who may not have thought of this reason for the train... Hope they have another good visit, wonder if Dennis will be joining. Geezer He going to China first to be briefed programmed for his meeting with DT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyezhov Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Hes going in an Armoured Train. How 1917. Like an F35 couldt take care of one of those lumbering beasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryingdick Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 18 hours ago, Tug said: Why not fly?if you devote enough resources to develope icbms surely you can feed your people and keep the planes flying ya criminal Because he is a socialist he is doing his best to adhere to the green new deal. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Date Masamune Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 On 2/24/2019 at 9:21 AM, TopDeadSenter said: This is perhaps the most significant meeting of 2 heads of state ever. Full credit to Trump for arranging this historic summit, just 3 years ago the possibility of such a meeting would have been scoffed at. Yet 2 years into Trumps first term here we are. Incredible. Yet what is unbearably sad is that many of the left would seemingly prefer nuclear war to break out than concede Trump is indeed the master of the deal. He is making the world a far safer place - let us not forget that when Trump won his election residents of Japan and Guam were preparing for nuclear armaggeddon. Good luck to the two men and their teams. Who cares why Kim didn't fly or what color Trump is. Who cares. Not true. The Asian tourists kept coming to Guam, Business went on as usual. No Armageddon. Nothing changed instead the Kim got one thing the Kims have always wanted, without a single concession. The American president groveling before him. Trump is a chump who got hoodwinked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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