steve2112 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 a couple of days ago i just stood up and a sudden pain hit me in the lower leg, back of my shin. nothing to do with injury or anything like that, just came completely out of nowhere. i'm generally pretty health, low blood pressure, not fat, no medical issues (except this one) my first thought was cramp that will go away in a few hours, but 3 days later and it still hurts, but not as much so i'm thinking either trapped nerve or blood clot. any thoughts? i guess i should see a doc i know but don't have a lot of confidence in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 "Back of my shin" are you referring to the calf muscle ?(gastrocnemius) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2112 Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 minute ago, CharlieH said: "Back of my shin" are you referring to the calf muscle ?(gastrochnemius) yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 My advice in the first instance would be a correct and decent lower leg massage, Make sure everything is relaxed and supple, gentle flex and tension after that see how it feels. Re-assess from there. Wouldnt hurt when doing the massage to use a spot tiger-balm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2112 Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 Just now, CharlieH said: My advice in the first instance would be a correct and decent lower leg massage, Make sure everything is relaxed and supple, gentle flex and tension after that see how it feels. Re-assess from there. Wouldnt hurt when doing the massage to use a spot tiger-balm. tried both of those several times already, but thx anyhow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Anything else you have tried, to avoid people repeating it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2112 Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 no, just massage and TB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Is there any pain or discomfort when resting or not using the leg ? i.e not load bearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2112 Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 i can feel it when not moving, but not bad at all, when i walk, it hurts a bit more and its forcing me to walk with a bit of a limp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotBenz8888 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Is the leg swollen? Red/white? Hot/cold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 pain centralised in muscles? or tendons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 it "may" be a strain or minor muscle tear, "RICE" , rest ice compression elevation. but as always: "If you are unsure of the cause of your symptoms, or if you do not know the specific treatment recommendations for your condition, you should seek professional medical attention." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2112 Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 not swollen, discolored or anything like that, looks perfectly normal. if i press on tendon, can definitely feel it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2112 Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 minute ago, CharlieH said: it "may" be a strain or minor muscle tear, "RICE" , rest ice compression elevation. i really doubt that, i haven't done anything to cause that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Just now, steve2112 said: i really doubt that, i haven't done anything to cause that. Getting up from a chair or getting out of bed can do that ! its really not that difficult, especially as you get older, or were sat down for a prelonged period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 could be the legged version of Tennis Elbow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2112 Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, CharlieH said: Getting up from a chair or getting out of bed can do that ! its really not that difficult, especially as you get older, or were sat down for a prelonged period. i was on my motorbike, not for long, maybe 10 mins, then got off and started walking and a couple of seconds later, it hit me. its possible i twisted it somehow i guess, i was walking slightly down hill on uneven ground. i'm just a bit paranoid in case its a blood clot because that can kill you, worst case scenario. but perhaps its nothing more than a muscle stain. i should try the RICE thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, steve2112 said: i was on my motorbike, not for long, maybe 10 mins, then got off and started walking and a couple of seconds later, it hit me. its possible i twisted it somehow i guess, i was walking slightly down hill on uneven ground. i'm just a bit paranoid in case its a blood clot because that can kill you, worst case scenario. but perhaps its nothing more than a muscle stain. i should try the RICE thing Well, if you think of the action that you do when dismounting a bike, the pressure and twist in direction, couple that with uneven ground and downhill slope and it seems you have a possible answer to the strain. I agree with you that for now, use the "rice" principal for a 7-10 days and see how you go. bag of frozen veg works well ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 You need to rule out a Deep Vein Thrombosis (DVT). See a doctor at once. Where in Thailand do you live? Do not get any more massage until cleared by a doctor. If it is a DVT massage could loosen the clot causing a pulmonary embolus, stroke or heart attack. Sent from my SM-J701F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2112 Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 the fact that it isn't going away is what's bothering me most. usually stuff like this goes away quick on me so i'm a bit worried about why not. yes, i know i need to see a doc. i'm in phuket, no shortage of them here, and i read up on DVT, that's why i posed the question, if i thought it was a simple muscle pull in the first place i wouldn't think twice about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 24 minutes ago, Sheryl said: You need to rule out a Deep Vein Thrombosis (DVT). See a doctor at once. Where in Thailand do you live? Do not get any more massage until cleared by a doctor. If it is a DVT massage could loosen the clot causing a pulmonary embolus, stroke or heart attack. Sent from my SM-J701F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app You beat me to it. Never massage a painful leg like the OP had unless one can rule out DVT. DVTs are not only caused by air travel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 A post containing an inflammatory insulting comment has been removed. There is no need to comment in that nature when a member is seeking helpful advice from others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 11 minutes ago, steve2112 said: the fact that it isn't going away is what's bothering me most. usually stuff like this goes away quick on me so i'm a bit worried about why not. yes, i know i need to see a doc. i'm in phuket, no shortage of them here, and i read up on DVT, that's why i posed the question, if i thought it was a simple muscle pull in the first place i wouldn't think twice about it I hope you are on your way to see a Dr right now. DVT can kill you if a piece breaks off, but you already knew that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 11 minutes ago, steve2112 said: the fact that it isn't going away is what's bothering me most. usually stuff like this goes away quick on me so i'm a bit worried about why not. yes, i know i need to see a doc. i'm in phuket, no shortage of them here, and i read up on DVT, that's why i posed the question, if i thought it was a simple muscle pull in the first place i wouldn't think twice about it do you have history of bad blood circulation, varicose veins in the legs, if not the symptoms you describe doesn't appear to be DVT, I know what the symptoms are as I have DVT. Would agree with Charlie about the strain muscle following an awkward movement like getting down from the moto or walking on a bad/uneven road/ground, rest and some muscle relaxant would help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Good to post scenarios like this on TV, but I would first jump in a taxi to the hospital, and maybe ask on my way there what could it be ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2112 Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, Mavideol said: do you have history of bad blood circulation, varicose veins in the legs, if not the symptoms you describe doesn't appear to be DVT, I know what the symptoms are as I have DVT. Would agree with Charlie about the strain muscle following an awkward movement like getting down from the moto or walking on a bad/uneven road/ground, rest and some muscle relaxant would help no history with bad blood circulation but i do occasionally get cramps when sleeping, hurts like a MOFO but goes away in seconds when i walk it off i gotta say, i think i'm been paranoid and there is nothing to worry about. i i don't have a lot of confidence in doctors here anyhow, i expect if i go see one i'll walk out with a bag of antibiotics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotBenz8888 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 42 minutes ago, Sheryl said: You need to rule out a Deep Vein Thrombosis (DVT). See a doctor at once. Where in Thailand do you live? Do not get any more massage until cleared by a doctor. If it is a DVT massage could loosen the clot causing a pulmonary embolus, stroke or heart attack. Sent from my SM-J701F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app I agree on pulmonary embolus, but how is it possible to get a stroke or heart attack from a venous clot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2112 Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, RotBenz8888 said: I agree on pulmonary embolus, but how is it possible to get a stroke or heart attack from a venous clot? i think if the clot breaks loose, floats around the blood system and ends up on your lungs or brain, very bad news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 minute ago, steve2112 said: no history with bad blood circulation but i do occasionally get cramps when sleeping, hurts like a MOFO but goes away in seconds when i walk it off i gotta say, i think i'm been paranoid and there is nothing to worry about. i i don't have a lot of confidence in doctors here anyhow, i expect if i go see one i'll walk out with a bag of antibiotics been paranoid is part of getting older, I have legs cramps on a daily basis, stepping down the moto is a risky process for me but couple minutes later and a small rub down the pain stops, take a muscle relaxant like norgesic, myonal or amytriptyline, they are not to strong and help the strain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 hour ago, steve2112 said: i really doubt that, i haven't done anything to cause that. You don't need to. One can have involuntary muscle contraction with resultant injury. Sounds like you pulled a muscle. I get it. It can be quite painful for a day or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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