Rimmer Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Prison chain-gang cleans out Pattaya sewers PATTAYA:--Prison inmates continued their work to scrape out clogged sewers in Pattaya. Deputy Mayor Banlue Kullavanijaya thanked Sanitation Department workers and convicts from Pattaya Remand Prison as they worked on drainage pipes at Sawang Pruktaram Temple, on Soi Buakhao and Third Road Feb. 21. Well-behaved inmates were put to work around the city Dec. 4, climbing down into sewers and scraping out the garbage, muck and other waste impeding the flow of wastewater and storm runoff. The convicts’ work assignment runs through early March. (PCPR) -- PATTAYA MAIL 2019-01-03-- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcharacters Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Now this is some positive news. Win - win for all involved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expattaff1308 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 A real community service Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Having done community service back in the day in the UK, I can assure you it really does not effect you in any pro-active way. But, I think if I had been in a chain gang doing this I'd certainly never have bad thought ever again ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 What's the job for the misbehaved might be a disturbing question???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnkleGoooose Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 If you're a "well behaved" prisoner you get to clean out turds, tampons and god knows what else. And if you misbehave....................? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlandtday Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Why don't they give more people community service and have them pick up all the garbage everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 ''How did you get this job'' ''I got lucky I suppose, the other poor sods are lying on their backs in prison reading books and playing cards'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simtemple Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 A cruel and unusual punishment. Clearly slave labour is widely accepted in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Just now, simtemple said: A cruel and unusual punishment. Clearly slave labour is widely accepted in Thailand. Whilst pointing elsewhere is no argument, I saw chain gangs in Arizona that were no better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRich Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 hour ago, RichardColeman said: Having done community service back in the day in the UK, I can assure you it really does not effect you in any pro-active way. But, I think if I had been in a chain gang doing this I'd certainly never have bad thought ever again ! What was your crime Richard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyt00 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 The sewers have been cleaned out by prisoners for at least 35 years, they I know of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivor bigun Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 A cruel and unusual punishment. Clearly slave labour is widely accepted in Thailand.Dont know about cruel,the ones we saw seemed to spend more time sitting around and smoking than working,and we saw them for a few days.Sent from my SM-A720F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Bill Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Interesting - I wonder if they found any coins or jewelry among the sludge? I believe this is a source of income for the low-caste street dwellers in India when cleaning out gutters and sewers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGW Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 25 minutes ago, Tonyt00 said: The sewers have been cleaned out by prisoners for at least 35 years, they I know of. Yep, Pattaya has a long history of not paying anyone to clean up the city, preferring to pocket the $$$$$$$$$$ (Baht actually ) that are allocated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 2 hours ago, tlandtday said: Why don't they give more people community service and have them pick up all the garbage everywhere. That would put the real garbage collectors out of a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Leopard Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 3 hours ago, RichardColeman said: Having done community service back in the day in the UK, I can assure you it really does not effect you in any pro-active way. But, I think if I had been in a chain gang doing this I'd certainly never have bad thought ever again ! UK Community Service Vs A Thai Prison. No real comparison i feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussieroaming Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 3 hours ago, UnkleGoooose said: If you're a "well behaved" prisoner you get to clean out turds, tampons and god knows what else. And if you misbehave....................? If you misbehave .... snack time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardinalblue Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Hey jacko.....1930s don’t count.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foexie Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Chain gangs should be existing everywhere. At least then those prissoners do something back for the community except cost only money. Also a good way for those overstayers who can't afford a ticket to pay for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Next time Mr. Mayor, get them to clean the sewers and gutters ABOVE ground... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prairieboy Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 21 hours ago, Rimmer said: Well-behaved inmates were put to work A real incentive! These stories are trotted out every year - two today in fact. Why don't they use these well-behaved guys to clear up the litter & dumped garbage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartender100 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 I am sure i saw Jean Valjean Les Misérables character Jean Valjean disguised as Monsieur Madeleine. Illustration by Gustave Brion. Created by Victor Hugo Portrayed by Harry BaurFredric MarchMichael RennieRichard JordanLiam NeesonHugh JackmanDominic West Information Full name Jean Valjean Alias Monsieur Madeleine Ultime Fauchelevent Urbain Fabre Prisoner 24601 Prisoner 9430 Nickname Monsieur Leblanc Gender Male Occupation Tree pruner Convict Businessman Mayor of Montreuil-sur-Mer Family Jean Valjean Sr. (father) Jeanne Mathieu (mother) Jeanne (sister) Unnamed brother Seven unnamed nieces and nephews Children Cosette (surrogate daughter; no legal or blood relation) Relatives Unnamed brother-in-law Marius Pontmercy (adoptive son-in-law) Religion Roman Catholic Nationality French Born 1769 Death 1833 (aged 64) Jean Valjean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bundooman Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 17 hours ago, UnkleGoooose said: If you're a "well behaved" prisoner you get to clean out turds, tampons and god knows what else. And if you misbehave....................? You get to cook them up for the other inmates? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wotsdermatter Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 This is not a chain gang in the true sense of the word. Also, nothing new as this has been performed for many years in Bangkok. 'nuf sed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblehead Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 17 hours ago, simtemple said: A cruel and unusual punishment. Clearly slave labour is widely accepted in Thailand. I have worked in sewers doing surveys on the tunnels. As well as the expected, dead cats and dogs were also the norm. Not the best pay in the world but it gave me a great stepping stone to a better job and career. I wouldn't say it is a cruel punishment. At the end of the day it is a job that has to be done. From my experience I think it would be fair to give them a day off their sentence for everyday worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Bull Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 18 hours ago, Burma Bill said: Interesting - I wonder if they found any coins or jewelry among the sludge? I believe this is a source of income for the low-caste street dwellers in India when cleaning out gutters and sewers. About 60 years ago I worked in a wash house in Liverpool where people took their laundry. Cleaning out the sump was the plumb job ,because I had least seniority I only got to do it once. Found a ring, I turned in but all the change went in my pocket. I found a few low spots the change sat in before getting in to the main sewer. Made enough for my bus fare, a pint and meat pie for lunch every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 11:02 PM, watcharacters said: Now this is some positive news. win - win for all involved How is the exposure of at risk marginalized people to infectious disease and toxic waste a win? Look at the workers. Aside from cheap latex gloves, no protective equipment of any kind. They are being forced into dealing with waste/debris that is classified as a biohazard. These inmates are at risk because many are in prison for drug related offences. Drug users in Thailand have a higher incidence of TB and immune system suppressed related conditions. This makes them more vulnerable to opportunistic infections. It is morally wrong and evil to have workers climbing into sewers wearing flip flops. They will come out with fungus and parasites attached to their feet. No amount of rinsing will clean that away. It is unacceptable to have these people in shorts and tshirts climbing into sewers and drainage pipers where dengue carrying mosquitoes are in high concentration. If they are going to do this work, then give them the appropriate clothes and protective gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Christmas13 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, geriatrickid said: How is the exposure of at risk marginalized people to infectious disease and toxic waste a win? Look at the workers. Aside from cheap latex gloves, no protective equipment of any kind. They are being forced into dealing with waste/debris that is classified as a biohazard. These inmates are at risk because many are in prison for drug related offences. Drug users in Thailand have a higher incidence of TB and immune system suppressed related conditions. This makes them more vulnerable to opportunistic infections. It is morally wrong and evil to have workers climbing into sewers wearing flip flops. They will come out with fungus and parasites attached to their feet. No amount of rinsing will clean that away. It is unacceptable to have these people in shorts and tshirts climbing into sewers and drainage pipers where dengue carrying mosquitoes are in high concentration. If they are going to do this work, then give them the appropriate clothes and protective gear. I totally agree with every thing you said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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