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BANGKOK 19 June 2019 17:55
brent c

US Tourist visa ? We will see

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I have enjoyed lurking in the background for a couple of months.  This forum has been a very informative place.

I appreciate the many scenarios addressed here. 

 

Well,  I have no idea what to expect but I have a Royal Caribbean cruise in December all paid for and I am hoping to bring a very nice woman from Beung kan with me.  

 

She has no B2 Visa yet.... I am going to help her the best I can.  I will be living in Thailand when the application process starts.  I will be looking for a Retirement Visa myself.

 

She is in her 40's, owns the home, car, motorcycle and is a hard working employee at a hospital.   She has made one trip to Europe on her own.

 

I sure hope the embassy realizes it is just a vacation and nothing more.   I have no intentions of this vacation lasting more than 12  - 14 days.   

 

I hope for success.... but geez,  so many stories of failure out there.    

 

I have written the embassy for guidance and to see if that helps in anyway.   i was used to the bureaucracy with the US Govt job I retired from.  I know it can be frustrating.

 

We shall see........

 

 

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Would like to be positive on this but she has to show why she will not stay in America and if she mentions you it will be a no go. Your intentions, writing to the embassy and opinion about her work ethics have zero bearing on her application. Her application will be judged and approved or not by her interviewing officer and you will not be present. You never purchase a ticket for her until the B1 is approved. Hope for her the best of luck.

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5 minutes ago, khwaibah said:

Would like to be positive on this but she has to show why she will not stay in America and if she mentions you it will be a no go. Your intentions, writing to the embassy and opinion about her work ethics have zero bearing on her application. Her application will be judged and approved or not by her interviewing officer and you will not be present. You never purchase a ticket for her until the B1 is approved. Hope for her the best of luck.

"if she mentions you it will be a no go" is complete BS that keeps getting repeated as an urban myth. When my girlfriend applied she listed that she was going to visit me. My name was also listed as helping her fill out the form because she insisted on filling out the application in English. Her interview lasted 3 minutes and she was only asked 4 questions, including who she was going to visit, how long and where she planned to go. She received a 10 year visa.

 

Brent, if she has been employed at the hospital for years, earns a decent salary and states the specific cruise she plans to take with you, then I'd be surprised if she's turned down. Have her take a letter from her employer stating her salary, length of employment, and the number of vacation days she is entitled to in case they want to see that info. They never asked to see any documentation from my girlfriend but she had a folder with car and house records along with the employment letter.

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I think the letter from the employer is a biggie.

 

The mentioning of the American guy myth, is sorta real. What the CO is fearful of is that she's goes to the US, gets married there and applies for an adjustment of status. Tourist visas for Thai's to the US are highly subjective

 

My wife, who had lived and studied in the US, got denied a tourist visa before she got a green card, when all we wanted to do was visit my daughter who had had a baby!

 

All a bit of a crap shoot actually, but she's got all the right stuff, house, job etc, so Good Luck

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Sorry, 99.5% she will not get it.

All the recommendations for letters, statement, airline tickets are a waste of time they do not ask for any of that on the application.

Also, everything is pre screened so bringing in a bunch of documents/papers with you is a waste.

She will be rejected before her interview even starts.

Not trying to be mean I am just familiar with the current processes for these visas and the results are overwhelmingly negative.

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Have her do the application form on line but never ever mention you. We applied last year and have been married 2 years and my wife was approved and yes they didn't ask for any of our letters or other documents. Before we were married 2 years ago we applied she was disapproved, because we were not married. There was a older Thai lady and her daughter appling for a tourist visa at the sametime as my wife. The consulate official asked the lady why she wanted to come to the US her reply was I have been every where else Europe, Australia, Canada but never the US and my daughter will help me get around. They were both approved. 

The visa is based on the info you input into the form 160 which you do on line it isn't that hard to do just answer every question truthfully

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I have a friend who is a Yank and he has taken his gf to NYC a couple of times, no problem, don't think he is married to her either.

 

Apparently, if you are not American you have virtually zero chance of getting your Thai partner a US Visa for a holiday?

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8 hours ago, Essex Reject said:

I have a friend who is a Yank and he has taken his gf to NYC a couple of times, no problem, don't think he is married to her either.

 

Apparently, if you are not American you have virtually zero chance of getting your Thai partner a US Visa for a holiday?

Thats not true.

 

Plenty of Thai's go to the United States alone.

 

It's just the criteria of stable employment, money and convincing the CO that they plan to return to Thailand.

 

Remember 25% of the Thai diaspora live in the US. That figure actually shocked me when I discovered it

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4 hours ago, GinBoy2 said:

Thats not true.

 

Plenty of Thai's go to the United States alone.

 

It's just the criteria of stable employment, money and convincing the CO that they plan to return to Thailand.

 

Remember 25% of the Thai diaspora live in the US. That figure actually shocked me when I discovered it

Fair dues, but I did read that.

 

So, I'm British, you think if I wanted to take the wife to NYC one day she would stand a chance?

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6 minutes ago, Essex Reject said:

Fair dues, but I did read that.

 

So, I'm British, you think if I wanted to take the wife to NYC one day she would stand a chance?

There are so many variables it's hard to say.

 

The fact that of being with a US citizen isn't really the problem. 

 

It's really down to whether or not the CO thinks she will return to Thailand after the vacation.

 

If I had to speculate, probably being with a non US male citizen might actually make it easier, since the CO may well conclude that there is little chance of marrying in the US

 

You have to be realistic here. The consular guys ain't stupid, they have had a million ex or current bar girls apply for visas. 

I'm pretty sure that's probably their #1 concern

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Owning a home here, having a stable job to come back to and having traveled to other first world countries are all pluses in her favor. Definitely get letter from employer. As others have said, the key issue is whether they believe she is just going on holiday and will return to Thailand.

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On 3/5/2019 at 8:00 AM, bkk6060 said:

Sorry, 99.5% she will not get it.

All the recommendations for letters, statement, airline tickets are a waste of time they do not ask for any of that on the application.

Also, everything is pre screened so bringing in a bunch of documents/papers with you is a waste.

She will be rejected before her interview even starts.

Not trying to be mean I am just familiar with the current processes for these visas and the results are overwhelmingly negative.

In 2017, almost 80% of Thais who applied for a tourist visa were approved. Official state dept figures: https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/Statistics/Non-Immigrant-Statistics/RefusalRates/FY 17.pdf

 

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2 minutes ago, JerseytoBKK said:

 

In 2017, almost 80% of Thais who applied for a tourist visa were approved. Official state dept figures: https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/Statistics/Non-Immigrant-Statistics/RefusalRates/FY 17.pdf

 

I wish it was so simple.

 

Now it's all a moot point for us now as my wife is now green card holder, and indeed works for the Feds in DoD.

But it's so weird.

Before we were formally married, she was between jobs, that was when I wanted to go see my daughter and my new Granddaughter, and of course she was was denied a visa

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17 minutes ago, GinBoy2 said:

I wish it was so simple.

 

Now it's all a moot point for us now as my wife is now green card holder, and indeed works for the Feds in DoD.

But it's so weird.

Before we were formally married, she was between jobs, that was when I wanted to go see my daughter and my new Granddaughter, and of course she was was denied a visa

No job and potential family in the US were probably viewed as a big red flag. How long did she say you planned to stay during the visit? 2 weeks or 2 months? From what I read, getting the green card is a long process but better chance of success. 

 

Before my girlfriend applied, I remember reading all the horror stories on TV. So I warned her not to get her hopes up. She asked 2 friends at work who had gotten visas and they laughed and said it was easy. Then I found forums that specifically talked about visas to the US and the state dept info. While ThaiVisa is great for info on Thailand, there's way too many false assumptions and highly inaccurate info regarding visas to the US. 

 

Good resources for US visas: https://www.visajourney.com/forums/ and https://www.immihelp.com/

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