Bangkok Barry 9,137 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 On 3/4/2019 at 9:10 AM, BobbyL said: I am pretty sure there has been no law passed to say having an e - cig is illegal. Whether something is illegal or not has absolutely no relevance in Thailand. Link to post Share on other sites
mommysboy 4,507 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 11 hours ago, A1Str8 said: Anyway i dont get it why people switch to e cig from real ones. lolz. I used to smoke years ago. For years. I decided to quit one day. So i did. On the spot. Never smoked again. You people need some training in the mental department. I guess it's the best of both worlds- getting the nicotine hit and lovely feeling of smoking, but without the health dangers. You really wanted to quit nicotine end of. Others don't and have found a great alternative. You got what you want, they got what they want. I suspect live and let live is probably an alien concept! Link to post Share on other sites
Oziex1 10,281 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 On 3/4/2019 at 9:45 AM, BestB said: Would be good if he also provided some medical study to back his assertion it was bad for you. But got to love the irony , after the fiasco he raids a few dozen shops to prove the point . what is more ironic is that he is the boss of immigration and last time I checked immigration had nothing to do with raiding shops for illegal products one might start to think BJ is the boss of all police as he is involved in all sectors of it from immigration to road blocks Or one might also think he is the goffer of the Junta's number two, Who's instructions are, for BJ to get out there and protect the tobacco monopoly. Link to post Share on other sites
lust 5,137 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 It’s nice to see how much he cares about our health. Link to post Share on other sites
metisdead 8,887 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Some off topic posts and the replies have been removed. Link to post Share on other sites
Virt 992 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Hopefully they allow those e-cigs again after they find a proper way to tax the products. We're coming back to Thailand this summer, but my girlfriend who changed to E- cigs several years ago is now "forced" to use ordinary cigarettes which is worse than E cig-s when it comes to health, smell, breath and littering. I bought some filters to put on the cigarettes to remove some of the worst tar, but that's still not optimal. Why not Introduce some sort of license that e cig users can buy at the border/airport when they arrive in Thailand. 1000 Baht for a month. Thailand get some of their lost tax money back and maybe most e cig users would gladly pay 1000 baht to use their e cigs instead of having to smoke regular cigarettes. I would gladly pay 1000 baht if my girlfriend could use her e-cigs. 33 millions people visiting Thailand. 20% of those smoke. 5% of the smokers use e cigs. That's 330.000 tourists each year using e cigs. If Thailand would sell a license to those e cig users that would be 330 million bath each year in sold licences. Or is that idea to crazy? Link to post Share on other sites
mommysboy 4,507 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 3 hours ago, Virt said: Hopefully they allow those e-cigs again after they find a proper way to tax the products. We're coming back to Thailand this summer, but my girlfriend who changed to E- cigs several years ago is now "forced" to use ordinary cigarettes which is worse than E cig-s when it comes to health, smell, breath and littering. I bought some filters to put on the cigarettes to remove some of the worst tar, but that's still not optimal. Why not Introduce some sort of license that e cig users can buy at the border/airport when they arrive in Thailand. 1000 Baht for a month. Thailand get some of their lost tax money back and maybe most e cig users would gladly pay 1000 baht to use their e cigs instead of having to smoke regular cigarettes. I would gladly pay 1000 baht if my girlfriend could use her e-cigs. 33 millions people visiting Thailand. 20% of those smoke. 5% of the smokers use e cigs. That's 330.000 tourists each year using e cigs. If Thailand would sell a license to those e cig users that would be 330 million bath each year in sold licences. Or is that idea to crazy? IMO, e-cigarettes will not be legalized any time soon in this country since that would now require a significant loss of face. Thailand has made it very clear that it regards e-cigarettes a significant health risk, preferring to use its own analysis on the subject to that of countries like the UK, and the EU. Link to post Share on other sites
ttrd 1,240 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 48 minutes ago, mommysboy said: IMO, e-cigarettes will not be legalized any time soon in this country since that would now require a significant loss of face. Thailand has made it very clear that it regards e-cigarettes a significant health risk, preferring to use its own analysis on the subject to that of countries like the UK, and the EU. Based on the fact that e-cigs is less unhealthy than ordinary cigs, no filters on the beach and less harm to the environment in general - despite those important factors the govern prohibits e-cig and allows regular cigarettes to remain legal. This doesn't make any sense when the base for prohibiting e-cigs is that its unhealthy and reinforces the theory that there are other forces behind that is not served by increased sales of e-cigs ... We see the same trends and patterns in other fields such as with the pollution challenges in all the cities with heavy industry where no enforcement for clean production has been done - With other words its all about increased profit for some and not about increased healthiness for all ... Link to post Share on other sites
meltingpot2015 161 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 On 3/4/2019 at 8:36 AM, webfact said: "Tell the people that e-cigarettes are illegal. And smoking them is bad for your health". Not everything we are told not to do because its bad is actually bad for us. Link to post Share on other sites
meltingpot2015 161 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 14 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said: Whether something is illegal or not has absolutely no relevance in Thailand. I saw that the Junta managed to pass the 'Internet martial laws' before the elections. Thailand has well and truly turned in to a cesspit. Link to post Share on other sites
mommysboy 4,507 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Probably the big player in all of this is the WHO, which as far as I can see uses an absolute measure of safety, rather than the relative one used with almost any other substance, including cigarettes. Thailand has taken their lead: thus because E-cigarettes contain known harmful chemicals and there is no long term evidence to say they are safe, it is to be assumed that they are hazardous. Needless to say if this reasoning was applied to nearly all other products and things we use even in the house, then everything would be banned, and no new product could possibly ever reach the market, since there is always the unknown. Link to post Share on other sites
lamyai3 6,863 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 On 3/6/2019 at 4:46 PM, Oziex1 said: Or one might also think he is the goffer of the Junta's number two What the Kremlin used to refer to as a useful idiot. Link to post Share on other sites
Too young to be old 55 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 On 3/4/2019 at 2:04 AM, a977 said: The vaping fluid is imported into the country so it comes under immigration Surely it would come under Customs and Excise, unless both are the same department. In most countries Immigrations and Customs are separate departments. Link to post Share on other sites
dallen52 2,022 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, Too young to be old said: Surely it would come under Customs and Excise, unless both are the same department. In most countries Immigrations and Customs are separate departments. Customs is a separate division. They use the harmonised tariff system as many countries do. Around 200. Incoterms. HS tax for vape pens and liquids is 2.6% in some countries. USA etc. Thailand possibly has a different % Its easy enough to check it out on line. Link to post Share on other sites
JustAnotherHun 2,126 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Well done, Big Joke! Go ahead! Best wishes, yours, Philip Morris Link to post Share on other sites
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