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I just wondered whether living in Pattaya you have to go to Jomtien? a friend of mine mentioned yesterday he uses other offices because they are easier to deal with

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No, you have to deal with the Immigration Office in your area, where you are 'registered'.

 

Only 90 days can do in other offices if you are not near your office when it expires.

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i lived in sattahip and sometimes got 60 day extensions of stay in Si racha

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For a 30-day tourist extension, one only need check into a hotel in another area to qualify for applying in that jurisdiction.  For longer extensions, one generally needs to "officially move" to the new jurisdiction by filing a TM-28 and TM-30 before being able to use the other office.

 

But there are cases of overlap - Phuket-Town vs the other Phuket office comes to mind from some posts.  I recall someone reporting that they used the Chonburi office vs Jomtien - but do not recall their circumstances.  It might be worth a long-shot to try there - and let us know the response, as it could help others with similar "Jomtien" issues, if a viable option to avoid Jomtien's corruption problem for some services (non-o stamps and married to a Thai extensions).

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For a 30-day tourist extension, one only need check into a hotel in another area to qualify for applying in that jurisdiction.  For longer extensions, one generally needs to "officially move" to the new jurisdiction by filing a TM-28 and TM-30 before being able to use the other office.

 

But there are cases of overlap - Phuket-Town vs the other Phuket office comes to mind from some posts.  I recall someone reporting that they used the Chonburi office vs Jomtien - but do not recall their circumstances.  It might be worth a long-shot to try there - and let us know the response, as it could help others with similar "Jomtien" issues, if a viable option to avoid Jomtien's corruption problem for some services (non-o stamps and married to a Thai extensions).

Yes it could be a plan B if say Jomtien are difficult with a retirement 1 year extension, try Si Racha which i hear is better. Plan A for me is Jomtien first later this year.

 

Jomtien must be a stressful office to work in so probably puts them in a bad mood as soon as they walk in

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1 hour ago, BertM said:

Last time I renewed in Jomtien, it was quick & easy. After about a 15 min wait, I turned in my 1-yr extension paperwork. They asked me to pick up the next day so they could call and verify my new address since I had moved. The next day, no ticket was needed and no wait, just walked up to desk and picked up my passport... It was 1,900 THB, no corruption or issues that I experienced.

Yes, that is typical for how it has been for some years for retirement there.  It is marriage and non-o stamps that have been a PITA.  Jomtien have been rolling in dough handling thousands of agent-applicants/yr from people living all over the country - making no problem for those doing honest applications.  The only open question is how the new rules might affect things. 

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18 minutes ago, JackThompson said:

Yes, that is typical for how it has been for some years for retirement there.  It is marriage and non-o stamps that have been a PITA.  Jomtien have been rolling in dough handling thousands of agent-applicants/yr from people living all over the country - making no problem for those doing honest applications.  The only open question is how the new rules might affect things. 

Ditto with Rayong (Maptaput) - fine for retirement but a PITA for marriage. Doubt, therefore, whether it would be worth the OP's while upping sticks and moving to somewhere in their catchment area like Ban Chang.

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I live in Chonburi but have always done my annual extensions at Jomtien (I first went to Si Racha 15 years ago and they told me, no can do, I must go to Jomtien). However when I went to Jomtien to do my annual extension last month they looked at my address and said I lived in the area covered by the Si Racha Immigration Office so must go there. I pointed out that I'd been going to Jomtien for fifteen years but was told 'new rules, go to Si Racha'.

 

A couple of people sitting nearby looked a little surprised/confused at this but nothing was said. The office was packed to overflowing so not sure if it was new rules, just an excuse to reduce their queue by one or possibly the start of tightening up on scams, etc. Anyway, by contrast Si Racha was really quiet with no queues. In and out in less than half hour with the retirement extension already stamped in my passport. (At Jomtien I've usually had to return the following day to collect my passport) 

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I live in Chonburi but have always done my annual extensions at Jomtien (I first went to Si Racha 15 years ago and they told me, no can do, I must go to Jomtien). However when I went to Jomtien to do my annual extension last month they looked at my address and said I lived in the area covered by the Si Racha Immigration Office so must go there. I pointed out that I'd been going to Jomtien for fifteen years but was told 'new rules, go to Si Racha'.
 
A couple of people sitting nearby looked a little surprised/confused at this but nothing was said. The office was packed to overflowing so not sure if it was new rules, just an excuse to reduce their queue by one or possibly the start of tightening up on scams, etc. Anyway, by contrast Si Racha was really quiet with no queues. In and out in less than half hour with the retirement extension already stamped in my passport. (At Jomtien I've usually had to return the following day to collect my passport) 
Does the 90 day reporting need to be in the same office you get the retirement extension?

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Just now, scubascuba3 said:
4 hours ago, sumrit said:
I live in Chonburi but have always done my annual extensions at Jomtien (I first went to Si Racha 15 years ago and they told me, no can do, I must go to Jomtien). However when I went to Jomtien to do my annual extension last month they looked at my address and said I lived in the area covered by the Si Racha Immigration Office so must go there. I pointed out that I'd been going to Jomtien for fifteen years but was told 'new rules, go to Si Racha'.
 
A couple of people sitting nearby looked a little surprised/confused at this but nothing was said. The office was packed to overflowing so not sure if it was new rules, just an excuse to reduce their queue by one or possibly the start of tightening up on scams, etc. Anyway, by contrast Si Racha was really quiet with no queues. In and out in less than half hour with the retirement extension already stamped in my passport. (At Jomtien I've usually had to return the following day to collect my passport) 

Does the 90 day reporting need to be in the same office you get the retirement extension?

Yes, or do it online.

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14 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Does the 90 day reporting need to be in the same office you get the retirement extension?

No, it doesn't have to be the same office. At least, when I was doing my extensions at Jomtien I always did my 90 reports at Si Racha and that continued for fifteen years. And of course, both Jomtien and Si Racha offices are under the umbrella of Chonburi Immigration.

 

Also, I always got my re-entry permits and did my TM30's at Si Racha. As I said, I only did my extensions at Jomtien because that's what I'd been told to do by an IO at Si Racha some fifteen years ago. 

 

That's why I wouldn't be surprised if the current 'NEW RULES' on which office we need to go to were part of a 'clean up' to monitor the different scams that have been running for a long time.

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42 minutes ago, sumrit said:

That's why I wouldn't be surprised if the current 'NEW RULES' on which office we need to go to were part of a 'clean up' to monitor the different scams that have been running for a long time.

Or, the offices agreed to quit screwing each other out of their quota of agent-money, by taking their agent-app clientele via competitive pricing (Jomtien's agents being some of the cheapest in Thailand).  Some agreement on a "common price" for agent-applications for all the big offices could also be part of the new arrangement. 

 

If the ultimate goal is to lower the long-stay expat-population, and those pushing that agenda want the IOs to cooperate, there would need to be a sweetener offered, so the IOs would not reduce their "on the side" income - ideally, increase it.  Pushing more of the remaining expats to agents, and at a higher fee per agent-application, would accomplish that goal.

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12 hours ago, JackThompson said:

Or, the offices agreed to quit screwing each other out of their quota of agent-money, by taking their agent-app clientele via competitive pricing (Jomtien's agents being some of the cheapest in Thailand).  Some agreement on a "common price" for agent-applications for all the big offices could also be part of the new arrangement. 

You appear to be trying to legitimize or claim Immigration wants to coordinate a system which is illegal and corrupt. (Based on bribery). I am more inclined to go along with their act of ignorance. 

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