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This is more general article but it includes some specific information/opinions about some specific Latin American nations. 

 

Such as getting legal Bolivia residency is expensive and difficult (I knew that already and rejected Bolivia).

 

That many people are moving to Colombia based mainly on expat puff pieces without looking deeper into it, particularly rising crime rates. But my research is showing some smaller cities in Colombia have less of a problem with that than the biggest cities of Bogota and  Medellin.

 

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Common problems faced by new expats: Experts say do your research to avoid major mistakes

https://cuencahighlife.com/common-problems-faced-by-new-expats-experts-say-do-your-research-to-avoid-major-mistakes/

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On 3/4/2019 at 3:38 PM, Jingthing said:

Please, for obvious reasons, this topic can't be focused on sex tourism or sexpats.

Forgive me, I think the above is not realistic. Full disclosure, I've been posting on this forum under various guises since the IT Manager days (dirty word, I know). My original membership number was in the few hundreds. Me, like many early forum members quickly realised, some of us the hard way, that this is not the place to give up one's anonymity without careful thought. I took a break from this forum for over ten years, now I'm back, because I find the electrical forum interesting. I work very late on a daily basis, occasionally while I'm downing a cold one in my office I'll look for a distraction and get sucked into the silliness over here. As I'm quite sure you know, the actual poster count here is remarkeably low, all things considered, and the thoughtful poster count even lower. I'm an IT guy, so I spend a lot of time on Cisco, Ubiquiti, Mikrotik customer forums, places like that. That's where I put my thought. TV is where I have my beer, and only because I'm stuck in the stew like the rest of us. The point I'm making is, I don't come here for intelligent conversation, I come here expecting to be trolled by bored whorists, but I appreciate it when when someone's head pops above the chaff, so thanks for the interesting read.

 

As a near direct result of TM30, I'm looking at options to uproot my family and move on, the sheer stupidity, it's just gone too far. I'm not some sex pest on an extended vacation, I have a lot invested in Thailand and my Thai family, emotionally, financially, whatever, so it's not something to be taken lightly and if we move on Thailand will be losing a family of hard working professionals. We'll see what happens but I'm looking at Australia and New Zealand, but I'm already familiar with those countries. Latin America is somewhere I've never been, so although middle aged, I still have a sense of adventure. I'm following this topic. Costa Rica is interesting, but I'm nowhere near retirement age. Opportunities are a must. I'm a family man, so whoring is not a priority.

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, NilSS said:

<SNIP>  Costa Rica is interesting, but I'm nowhere near retirement age. Opportunities are a must. I'm a family man, so whoring is not a priority.

 

 

 

 

I believe Citibank is growing it's CSC (Citi Support Center) in Costa Rica including roles in Network Engineering & Operations, have no idea what the salary is like but there may be an opportunity there for you.

 

I worked for them in Singapore so know they have an external site with their job opportunities for ASPAC, would imagine it's Global so any roles available in CR would show up on there.

 

I still have friends at Citi, PM me if you're interested but can't find the site & I'll ask around for you.

 

Good Luck 

 

MTV

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3 minutes ago, Mike Teavee said:

I believe Citibank is growing it's CSC (Citi Support Center) in Costa Rica including roles in Network Engineering & Operations, have no idea what the salary is like but there may be an opportunity there for you.

 

I worked for them in Singapore so know they have an external site with their job opportunities for ASPAC, would imagine it's Global so any roles available in CR would show up on there.

 

I still have friends at Citi, PM me if you're interested but can't find the site & I'll ask around for you.

 

Good Luck 

 

MTV

I have a friend working for Citi in Manila. He was relocated there from Singapore after they set up their 'Center of Excellence' (i.e. cost cutting). I'm pretty sure you'll know him too. Small world eh? I'll blast you a PM in the morning for a chin wag.

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Some packing tips on what to bring to Ecuador in your suitcases. A lot of this would be relevant to other Latin American nations, but not all.

 

While it can be painful to start over with almost no stuff, such dramatic changes can also be an opportunity to throw off the clutter of your current life and have a kind of fresh start. Not that material stuff is everything but it's often the case that stuff owns us rather than the other way around.

 

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Your family is moving to Ecuador but just with suitcases: What should you bring?

 

https://cuencahighlife.com/your-family-is-moving-to-ecuador-with-suitcases-what-should-you-bring/

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On 9/15/2019 at 11:51 PM, Odysseus123 said:

Hi Seasia,

 

I think that "re-locating" has a lot to do with age and level of fitness-possibly mental toughness as well.

Different strokes for different folks.

My friends have just pulled out after 10 years in Yucatan.They got totally fed up with the place and re-retired back to Kent!

Kent has a lot of potential. I cant see myself leaving Thailand except to return to UK.   Maybe Europe but not relocating to South America or anywhere in Asia.

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More on the health coverage situation in Colombia. Most of it has already been discussed here a lot. But there is some major news! To review both Colombia and Ecuador have buy in options to somewhat basic public health care systems to expats, of any age or medical condition. 

 

There has been conflicting info about the cost the public option in Colombia. Some sources said 12.5 percent of income but included foreign retirement income. So if that was true a retiree with a large pension would be paying a lot for a public system that would really not be a good deal.

 

However, I had already confirmed that FOREIGN income is not counted. Which is great news for retirees meaning that the public system costs only about 35 dollars a month (almost free).

 

This video emphasizes the limitations with that system but it's definitely better than nothing. 

 

This video provides more credible confirmation about the very low price for the public option for those with only foreign based income.

 

If you're over 62 at present you can't buy better private insurance. So you're stuck with the public option.

 

That's the big news here. Sura (a health company that offers both public and private plans) is reportedly going to be offering private coverage for ages 63 to 75. It will definitely be expensive! But for many it might be worth it. 

 

 

 

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A bit of an update.

One of the appeals of Colombia from my POV is my perception that their retirement visa process appears to be the least onerous than any I know about in Latin America. By far. Also you get 3 years at a time and there is clear path towards more permanent residence status. Colombia wasn't always like that. The streamlining has been relatively recent.

 

Here is what I recently got from a credible source --

 

For Colombia retirement visa, you don't need any documents to be apostilled.

 

For U.S. social security a simple printout of your benefits statement can be officialized at the U.S. embassy in Bogota. (But I think you could also get it apostilled which in the U.S. as an alternative.)

 

For U.S. citizens no criminal background check needed whatsoever.

 

There is no medical clearance form needed.

 

However, I still have some uncertainties.

 

On the application you will be asked about your history in Colombia. I assume any serious issues with Colombia immigration in the past would be disqualifying.

 

I don't know what medical questions might be asked on the application, if any.

 

I don't know if you have a record of living in Thailand or another not western country whether they would need a  criminal background check for that or not.

 

But so far very good news as far as how easy it is (assuming you have at least a quite low pension income). 

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On 8/18/2019 at 11:03 AM, keemapoot said:

Anyone thinking of retiring to Colombia really must watch the Nexflix series "Narcos." First, it's excellent dramatic entertainment in the HBO long-form gangster film style of Sopranos, and second it's a sobering reminder of what Colombia used to be like, and that there might be remnants still today.

Yeah I also enjoyed Narcos season 1.  Season 2 not so much.  Narcos Mexico also worth a watch. 

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More bad news, and from tequila country no less.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-49704720

Mexico Jalisco: Forensics piece together 44 bodies

Forensic scientists in Mexico have managed to piece together 44 bodies buried in a well in Jalisco state.

Discovered just outside the city of Guadalajara, the human remains were hidden in 119 black bags.

The remains were discovered earlier in September when local residents began complaining about the smell.

Jalisco is the heartland of one of Mexico's most violent drug gangs and this is the second major find of bodies in the state this year.

 

 

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More bad news, and from tequila country no less.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-49704720

Mexico Jalisco: Forensics piece together 44 bodies

Forensic scientists in Mexico have managed to piece together 44 bodies buried in a well in Jalisco state.

Discovered just outside the city of Guadalajara, the human remains were hidden in 119 black bags.

The remains were discovered earlier in September when local residents began complaining about the smell.

Jalisco is the heartland of one of Mexico's most violent drug gangs and this is the second major find of bodies in the state this year.

 

 

How many retired gringos in those bags? I reckon zero.

 

As stated before crime and security is an issue in Mexico's 2nd city Guadalajara. The expats in that region tend to congregate around Lake Chapala which has a world famous Gringo community.

 

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i was just reading about Medellin again - big issue with youths racing modified hybrid bikes down local mountains roads at up to 77km per hour - why - gives some purpose to their lives!!


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Just now, strikingsunset said:

i was just reading about Medellin again - big issue with youths racing modified hybrid bikes down local mountains roads at up to 77km per hour - why - gives some purpose to their lives!!


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As long as they are not riding on the pavements like in Thailand, not bothered what they do.

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