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Expats in Thailand considering moving to Latin America prompted by Thai visa changes

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2 hours ago, Mike Teavee said:

go West-East or East-West (Would prefer the later as I've never gone further than New Zealand flying that way)

Could have sworn I edited this to clarify, I would prefer to fly East from Thailand/Singapore and end up in Columbia, just not sure which route/stops to take on the way (The more places I can see the better)

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Thanks.
Yes I'm fairly sure I've linked to the Medellin guru site before but this is a long topic by now.
My impression is that it's a top site for good updated visa info.

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Yes of course I still see the appeal of Colombia for shorter trips up to six months (which can be stretched to a year with strategic timing). Also for retirement for people with more generous pensions than mine. But as it's now looking like that door is closing for me, honestly, even traveling there is not all that compelling to me. My interest was travel to explore moving there so if I can't move there, oh well! But sometimes the most exciting places to travel to aren't the same places as the best places to live in. 

 

Interestingly my current top potential choices in Mexico (Queretaro and Pueblo/Cholula) do interest me as travel destinations in themselves. Of course I already know that I love to travel in Mexico from previous experiences. 

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In case it's not obvious yes I feel very sad about this sudden change regarding Colombia. But such things are beyond anyone's (aside from Colombian legislators) control.

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To add there is one possible scenario where Colombia would still be in play for me. The proposed legislation if it passes will probably take effect before the end of this year. Now IF the initial proposed new pension levels are lowered enough for me to qualify and IF they grandfather in the old levels (unlikely to both happen but possible) then it would still be OK.

YES people under the proposed level can rush there right now and hope they get grandfathered.

That might actually be worth the risk for some people that aren't tied down to where they are too heavily. 

 

 

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Switching gears to Mexico, this young lady expat in Queretaro explains the appeal of that internationally lesser known big city --


 

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7 REASONS YOU MUST VISIT QUERÉTARO, MEXICO

As you make your Mexico travel itinerary, why not consider getting off the beaten path? Visit Querétaro, Mexico—one of central Mexico’s hidden gems! Find out what Querétaro is known for, if it’s safe to visit Querétaro and the best things to do in Querétaro, Mexico!

 

 

https://backpackingbrunette.com/reasons-visit-queretaro/

 

More links:

 

https://backpackingbrunette.com/living-in-queretaro/

 

https://backpackingbrunette.com/the-cost-of-living-in-queretaro-mexico/

 

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Then again there is Ecuador. I'm been down on Cuenca largely because of too high an elevation but smaller city Loja in the south is somewhat lower in elevation and cost of living.

 

Some of this info may be dated but still looks to be a good source:

 

https://bb6679d6-4bb1-4004-a922-f491cf26f0d7.filesusr.com/ugd/dfaf53_3f2044028c9d48dca75e2a7a099497c1.pdf

 

That is from a Loja based relocation service. They even offer a service that I've never heard of before. They can open an Ecuadorian bank account for you (generally a hard thing to do especially for Americans) before you move there with a limited power of attorney.

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54 minutes ago, uhuh said:

Friend is retiring to Colombia (he is 29), has been living there  for almost 3 years already,  speaks Spanish very well.

All prices that he ever quoted were cheaper than Thailand,  sometimes just a bit, sometimes a lot.

Exception: flights from Europe are cheaper to Thailand than to Colombia.

Especially cheap were condos (almost half the price of Thailand) and prostitutes (Colombians seem to be cheap, Venezuelans dirt cheap - but at 29 he gets lots of girls without paying by the hour, anyway).

 

2 problems: 

1. He is a businessman and got fleeced, lost almost 100,000 USD.

2. Healthcare. He doesn't have a solution for this. 

Hi there.

Where is he located in Colombia?

Unless in the deep sticks I don't understand why health care would be a problem for a 29 year old. Does he have serious preexisting conditions? Is he on a business visa status there? You can't live there for three years straight with visa runs so I assume he has some official status there and would have an I.D. card (cedula). With that status he would have access to both the general public system and also private add ons (but the latter not if he has serious preexisting conditions). So something doesn't add up with your post.

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Mainly Bogotá.

In the process of buying a condo at the sea (I really don't remember, where).

 

I have no idea what kind of visa he has. He owns the company that lost 100,000, so i guess it's a business visa? He never talked about visa problems.  I would be surprised if he has a cedula.

 

I wasn't 3 years straight.  More like half a year coming and going (but mostly in Colombia),  then 2 years straight,  then  coming and going again (but mostly not in Colombia) for over a year.  Now in Colombia again,  with frequent short trips to Europe. 

 

He definitely doesn't have access to the general public health system. 

He had a serious health problem (it is hopefully cured by now).

It would have been difficult to get good treatment for this in Bogotá, and it would have been expensive (private health care is more expensive in Colombia than in Thailand). But he does have private insurance.

He got treatment in Europe,  paid out of pocket (because he is not in the social security system in his home country anymore), dirt cheap, very good treatment,  got reimbursed by his insurance (deductible 1500 USD).

 

His problem is twofold: he bought an inadequate health insurance policy thinking (at the time)  "I am just 27, nothing can happen to me, I can take care of this later". Now he has (had) a preexisting condition,  it will be difficult to change to another policy. 

Second: some health issues are better dealt with in the health care system of a rich country. He was very lucky to get treatment in Europe. 

 

 

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OK. Thanks. That explains a lot. Sorry to hear about his health problem. If he had stayed for two years straight unless on overstay he would definitely have a visa and cedula. Cedula is required in such cases and subject to large fines if not obtained quickly. So he would be eligible for the basic national health which is obtained from private companies. But yes needing specialists would mean long waits on that cover. 

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