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Thanks for that. I hadn't realized it was only an hours drive to San Jose which is a city I like but in my experience badly polluted. I wonder if the bus is that quick. That's a similar travel time between expat haven Boquette and David in Panama. 

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Mexican cartels expanded to the green gold avocado trade and other segments. This is pretty grim stuff. From an expat POV the increase in cartel violence in Guanajuato is particularly of interest. Guanajuato itself is somewhat of an expat draw but also its not very far from both San Miguel de Allende and Queretaro. 

 

 

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2019-11-20/mexico-cartel-violence-avocados

 

 

Inside the bloody cartel war for Mexico’s multibillion-dollar avocado industry

 

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On 11/17/2019 at 1:43 AM, JaiLai said:

just out of interest where in west africa would you consider?

Gambia/Senegal/ Guinea Bissau.

 

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4 hours ago, sunnyboy2018 said:

Gambia/Senegal/ Guinea Bissau.

 

Can you speak french / portuguese?

 

i've been to several west african countries, found ghana about the most civilised but would still never consider living there.

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Colombia now joining the South American protest club. But so far mostly peaceful and joyous. Apparently it's happening in cities across the county. Of course tunnel vision me is hoping the government there will be too busy dealing with serious stuff to bother raising financial requirements for retired expats. 

 

https://colombiareports.com/colombias-anti-government-protests-overwhelming-peaceful-and-joyful/

 

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Has anybody here had any experience with the Mexican Embassy in Bangkok?

 

In general, are they friendly and easy to work with, and in particular, did you apply for a visa with them and if so, how did the process go for you (was it smooth, were you able to get it in one visit/interview, etc)?

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I hear Queretaro mexico is a decent place to live according to expatistan.com cheaper cost of living than 50% of the cities in Mexico and cheaper than 59% of other latin american cities.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Banana7 said:

I hear Queretaro mexico is a decent place to live according to expatistan.com cheaper cost of living than 50% of the cities in Mexico and cheaper than 59% of other latin american cities.

 

 

Also I hear Akumal and Playa del Carmen are decent places for retirement. Akumal is about 25 miles from Carmen, much smaller, and fewer restaurants and bars. Carmen is a larger tourist destination so rents are much higher.

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On 11/30/2019 at 1:50 PM, wpcoe said:

Has anybody here had any experience with the Mexican Embassy in Bangkok?

 

In general, are they friendly and easy to work with, and in particular, did you apply for a visa with them and if so, how did the process go for you (was it smooth, were you able to get it in one visit/interview, etc)?

That's an excellent question. What kind of visa are you seeking? I wonder these things --

Does the Thai staff handling visas speak English and/or Spanish?

Will they even process temporary or permanent residence applications for non-Thais or will they suggest go back to your home country to apply?

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6 hours ago, Banana7 said:

Also I hear Akumal and Playa del Carmen are decent places for retirement. Akumal is about 25 miles from Carmen, much smaller, and fewer restaurants and bars. Carmen is a larger tourist destination so rents are much higher.

Yes Playa del Carmen is considered a more pricey destination in Mexico. But Queretaro and Puebla aren't the cheapest places either.

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Nomad Capitalist guy comments on how people tend to overreact to protests in different countries. He's focused on great cities in the various countries and isn't big on provincial places as he's focused and business on investments. There is an interesting anecdotal story of how an expat benefited from people panicking over the previous big problems in Bangkok (for those that were here then or remember). 

 

 

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6 hours ago, Jingthing said:

That's an excellent question. What kind of visa are you seeking? I wonder these things --

Does the Thai staff handling visas speak English and/or Spanish?

Will they even process temporary or permanent residence applications for non-Thais or will they suggest go back to your home country to apply?

I want to apply for Residente Permanente.  Even if I don't exit Thailand permanently, I've been spending enough time there to justify a Residente visa, and can then open a bank account there.  (They pay 7% interest.)

 

I sent an e-mail to the Mexico Embassy in Bangkok, since their web pages don't list the Residente Permanente or Temporal visas.

 

If they don't, I'll just apply in Las Vegas next time I'm there visiting family.

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The e-mails I've received from the Mexican Embassy in Bangkok are in perfect English, but I'm not optimistic about getting a visa there since the process seems adapted to Thailand and local procedures.  I made an appointment for mid-December to see if maybe a visa application can be approved. 

 

Part of the instructions for documents to prove eligibility:
 

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Bank statement with the account balances and movements for the past twelve months. 

  • Must be original document
  • Must be issued from the bank with signature and seal (E-signature is not acceptable)
  • Must specify currency
  • Please make sure that your name on the bank statement matches that on your passport

○ Original Income Affidavit from your Embassy.

 

 

My U.S. bank doesn't issue paper statements; they are only available as .PDF downloads.  Is that considered an "original document"?  (My guess is no.)

 

There would be no signature nor seal on the printout.  (Do Western banks even have official seals?)

 

Must specify currency?  A US bank assumes everyone knows it's USD. 

 

My passport has my middle name, whereas my bank accounts only use an initial. 

 

"Original income Affidavit" from the US Embassy?  Dream on.

 

I pointed out to them that the US Embassy no longer issues affidavit letters:

"We are aware that the US Embassy no longer provides income affidavits. However, until you submit your application with the supporting documents, will we be able to tell if you’re eligible to apply here in Bangkok considering the fact that your income evidence was not issued within our diplomatic jurisdiction."

 

That part in red is my concern.  My income evidence not being issued within their diplomatic jurisdiction (i.e. Thailand) may be an issue.

 

No mention was made in e-mail or on the web site about the alternative qualification by using investments.  However, since my Fidelity statements also are all downloaded .PDF files, I'm not sure they'd work either.  I am taking printouts of both my bank's .PDF statements and Fidelity's .PDF statements.

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