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'Europe' has a worse crime problem than 'South America'?

It depends! An expat story.


 

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An expat explains: ‘Why we left Cuenca for Europe and why we came back’

 

I have seen a number of articles on this website and others that discuss the reasons why people become expats. I have also seen articles about why expats decide to move to other towns in Ecuador or to other countries, and why some of them go back home, usually to the U.S. or Canada.

I was one of those who wanted to continue being an expat but wanted to try out another country.

 

https://cuencahighlife.com/an-expat-tells-his-tale-why-i-left-cuenca-and-why-i-returned/

 

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I have mentioned before that the election of Andrés Manuel López Obrador as president of Mexico will no doubt mean major changes there for both Mexicans and expats there.

 

His novel efforts to deal the drug cartels and to stop the war model from previous administrations so far doesn't seem to working well at all.

 

One thing I haven't mentioned is his agenda for health care. AMLO has promised to bring the Mexican health care system and access up to the highest global standards (looking to Europe rather than the USA for obvious reasons).

 

I've seen snippets here and there about how that will impact on expats. Mostly in the vein of this is going to mean an improvement for expat's access into their system, but I haven't seen anything definitive or credible on the details about that.

 

So it's something to consider and watch and I also wouldn't assume that the changes will necessarily be good for expats either. 

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On 2/27/2020 at 4:49 AM, UbonThani said:

Easy for Americans. Asian people are better though.

Asians can be more pleasant to deal with superficially but they lack depth. And I mean SEA mostly.

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Probably needless to say but with more and more nations putting up restrictive travel bans, this is not the time to be actively shopping for a new expat residence. For those that have already committed to a new country and are already there, in general they are probably OK staying there dependent on visa status of course. But not surprisingly Latin American nations are not immune from the virus situation.

 

Just in today, Colombia just announced a total incoming travel ban for 30 days but it includes it's own citizens! I'm not aware of any other country that has done that.

 

How long will this difficult situation for international movement last? Nobody knows. At least months, possibly years, and likely even with some kind of eventual resolution there will be some permanent changes from this, similar to 9/11 but likely even more so.

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4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Just in today, Colombia just announced a total incoming travel ban for 30 days but it includes it's own citizens! I'm not aware of any other country that has done that.

Yes a Colombian couple I know were very lucky to get home from a Mallorca vacation just in time

The funny coincidence is they were cycling in Mallorca then Spain started their shutdown which prompted them to go home....They feel fortunate it all worked out

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This is probably academic information for most of us, but just as the baht has weakened against the dollar Latin American currencies have had massive weakening related to the virus.

 

Look at these charts:

 

https://www.xe.com/currencyconverter/convert/?Amount=1&From=USD&To=MXN

 

https://www.xe.com/currencyconverter/convert/?Amount=1&From=USD&To=COP

 

 

Perhaps when this spike reverses, the world will be over this viral panic but again that could take at least several months and even years.

 

Of course for any settled expats in countries with very weak currencies now they might want to take a <deleted> shoot and buy some large assets now.

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4 hours ago, grifbel said:

Thought I would check back in on this dead thread after hibernating for 50 pages.  Still boring and mostly nonsense.  Will see you again in 50 pages.

Charming.

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On 3/22/2020 at 6:05 PM, grifbel said:

Thought I would check back in on this dead thread after hibernating for 50 pages.  Still boring and mostly nonsense.  Will see you again in 50 pages.

Look forward to reading your "interesting" threads Dave....😟

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Assuming that some day in the future the world will open up again, there has been a change in Thai immigration that could very well last longer than this crisis. Apparently they are now requiring a statement of all recently travelled to countries. Well that could be a problem with a number of Latin American countries that are on Thailand's yellow fever vaccination required list, including Colombia. Before I think if you weren't flying into Thailand directly from one of those countries this would probably have been overlooked. But if its there on black and white on a form it seems like they would need to enforce it. So why not just get a yellow fever vaccine certificate? Sure you could. It's a major hassle to do in Thailand though and also generally considered on the risky side for people over 60. Add to that it's a stupid requirement unless you're travelling to an effected reason within the country. For example if you were traveling to the Amazon region of a country, you really would want it for health reasons. Otherwise, not really. 

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Ok, lets see my two cents.

I considered South America for some time--not anymore.

Started from Dominican republic--two hours fly from Miami is the only benefit. Visited 4 cities--all distinct 3-d world smell. Beggars, rip-offs, garbage etc--keep it. Females consider themselves high level and speak only Spanish. Food lousy, properties overprized. No public transportation from airport.

Costa Rica--visited multiple times--lousy--overrun with homeless in capital--negative impression on everything.

Panama--no public transportation from airport, high crime.

Ecuador--on internet was looking good till this virus hit and suddenly everything bad and corpses laying everywhere.

Columbia--you need good luck having with you.

Mexico--no, thank you.

It maybe strange but you need good luck to survive.

 

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On 3/25/2020 at 3:26 PM, Jingthing said:

Assuming that some day in the future the world will open up again, there has been a change in Thai immigration that could very well last longer than this crisis. Apparently they are now requiring a statement of all recently travelled to countries. Well that could be a problem with a number of Latin American countries that are on Thailand's yellow fever vaccination required list, including Colombia. Before I think if you weren't flying into Thailand directly from one of those countries this would probably have been overlooked. But if its there on black and white on a form it seems like they would need to enforce it. So why not just get a yellow fever vaccine certificate? Sure you could. It's a major hassle to do in Thailand though and also generally considered on the risky side for people over 60. Add to that it's a stupid requirement unless you're travelling to an effected reason within the country. For example if you were traveling to the Amazon region of a country, you really would want it for health reasons. Otherwise, not really. 

I was travelling to Brazil extensively in 2018.  After the 3rd trip, I stopped to fill the form in Swampy that I had just returned from Brazil.  I had no Yellow Fever vaccination certificate, they have a small clinic next to where the forms are and they give you the vaccination on the spot for 300 baht, and a vaccination booklet with the YF stamp in it.  Perhaps if there is C19 vaccination, this could be done traveler-by-traveler as well like this. 

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24 minutes ago, olfu said:

Ok, lets see my two cents.

I considered South America for some time--not anymore.

Started from Dominican republic--two hours fly from Miami is the only benefit. Visited 4 cities--all distinct 3-d world smell. Beggars, rip-offs, garbage etc--keep it. Females consider themselves high level and speak only Spanish. Food lousy, properties overprized. No public transportation from airport.

Costa Rica--visited multiple times--lousy--overrun with homeless in capital--negative impression on everything.

Panama--no public transportation from airport, high crime.

Ecuador--on internet was looking good till this virus hit and suddenly everything bad and corpses laying everywhere.

Columbia--you need good luck having with you.

Mexico--no, thank you.

It maybe strange but you need good luck to survive.

 

Luck can be made, good or bad!

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