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OK, this is somewhat tangential but it relates to my previous comments about "Ethnic Blending" which really relates to the experience of outsiders visiting or living anywhere, though the topic here is Latin America specific.

 

I had "invented" the phrase Ethnic Blending independently but it turns out the concept already exists and it means something very different. It's about literal genetic mixing in a biological sense. Such the process where ethnic Han Chinese became so completely dominant in China.

 

So I'll call what I meant to be the Ethnic Blending In factor instead. In other words, how much (or not) your look if you adjust your dress to be local will appear to not be necessarily foreign in different locales.

 

So I'm posting this video which presents some interesting and possibly surprising theories about the history of ethnic Jewish influence (and also Arabic) in Latin America (mostly Sephardim as opposed to Ashkenazi more prevalent in Europe and the USA, Canada). Does that seem too specific? Not really. Because the video gets into the topic of how massively ETHNICALLY DIVERSE Latin America is in general. Now I really don't know how credible this source is, but I still think it's interesting enough to post.

 

The point being is perhaps a very wide range of ethnic "looks" would blend in quite well in a lot of places in Latin America. Exceptions might be very blonde people but even they might not stand out in Argentina or Chile. Certain Asians can sometimes pass for indigenous Latin American people as well.

 

 

 

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OK, this is somewhat tangential but it relates to my previous comments about "Ethnic Blending" which really relates to the experience of outsiders visiting or living anywhere, though the topic here is Latin America specific.
 
I had "invented" the phrase Ethnic Blending independently but it turns out the concept already exists and it means something very different. It's about literal genetic mixing in a biological sense. Such the process where ethnic Han Chinese became so completely dominant in China.
 
So I'll call what I meant to be the Ethnic Blending In factor instead. In other words, how much (or not) your look if you adjust your dress to be local will appear to not be necessarily foreign in different locales.
 
So I'm posting this video which presents some interesting and possibly surprising theories about the history of ethnic Jewish influence (and also Arabic) in Latin America (mostly Sephardim as opposed to Ashkenazi more prevalent in Europe and the USA, Canada). Does that seem too specific? Not really. Because the video gets into the topic of how massively ETHNICALLY DIVERSE Latin America is in general. Now I really don't know how credible this source is, but I still think it's interesting enough to post.
 
The point being is perhaps a very wide range of ethnic "looks" would blend in quite well in a lot of places in Latin America. Exceptions might be very blonde people but even they might not stand out in Argentina or Chile. Certain Asians can sometimes pass for indigenous Latin American people as well.
 
 
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Next time you want to ignore someone don't answer instead of bating them back. 

Bait ignored.

 

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I’m looking at Guyana as a possible destination, English is widely spoken, looks lovely.

Thoughts?


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I know nothing about living in Guyana so no comment. As you claim to be interested, you are welcome to post your findings here.

 

Thanks in advance. 

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I know nothing about living in Guyana so no comment. As you claim to be interested, you are welcome to post your findings here.
 
Thanks in advance. 

Guyana, country located in the northeastern corner of South America. Indigenous peoples inhabited Guyana prior to European settlement, and their name for the land, guiana (“land of water”), gave the country its name. Present-day Guyana reflects its British and Dutch colonial past and its reactions to that past. It is the only English-speaking country of South America. Since Guyana gained its independence in 1966, the country’s chief economic assets have been its natural resources, mainly its pristine rainforests, sugarcane plantations, rice fields, and bauxite and gold reserves. Despite those riches, Guyana remains one of the poorest countries in South America. Some geographers classify Guyana as a part of the Caribbean region, which they deem to include the West Indies as well as Guyana, Belize, Suriname, and French Guiana on the South American mainland. The capital and chief port of Guyana is Georgetown.

As you see they speak English so you’d be able to ditch your Spanish lessons that you’re struggling with.

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Guyana, country located in the northeastern corner of South America. Indigenous peoples inhabited Guyana prior to European settlement, and their name for the land, guiana (“land of water”), gave the country its name. Present-day Guyana reflects its British and Dutch colonial past and its reactions to that past. It is the only English-speaking country of South America. Since Guyana gained its independence in 1966, the country’s chief economic assets have been its natural resources, mainly its pristine rainforests, sugarcane plantations, rice fields, and bauxite and gold reserves. Despite those riches, Guyana remains one of the poorest countries in South America. Some geographers classify Guyana as a part of the Caribbean region, which they deem to include the West Indies as well as Guyana, Belize, Suriname, and French Guiana on the South American mainland. The capital and chief port of Guyana is Georgetown.

As you see they speak English so you’d be able to ditch your Spanish lessons that you’re struggling with.

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That's not a legitimate post. You did a big paste dump and even failed to source it.

 

https://www.britannica.com/place/Guyana

 

It was clear that I was suggesting that you post information that is more potential EXPAT specific. Visas, cost of living, quality of life for expats, etc. 

 

BTW, Belize is another English speaking nation in the region. However, I don't qualify for their visa and I wouldn't want to live there anyway even if I did. But some people might. Sure not needing to learn a foreign language is a plus for most of us, but it's not the only thing to consider. 

 

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That's not a legitimate post. You did a big paste dump and even failed to source it. It was clear that I was asking for information that is more EXPAT specific. Visas, cost of living, quality of life for expats, etc. 
 
BTW, Belize is another English speaking nation in the region. However, I don't qualify for their visa and I wouldn't want to live there anyway even if I did. But some people might. Sure not needing to learn a foreign language is a plus for most of us, but it's not the only thing to consider. 
 

Not legitimate - hilarious. Who decides that, you?

My “paste dump” is. O different to your video dumps ( like that? )

So, no opinion on Guyana? Lovely coastline


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Not legitimate - hilarious. Who decides that, you?

My “paste dump” is. O different to your video dumps ( like that? )

So, no opinion on Guyana? Lovely coastline


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When pasting a video the link for that video is always embedded in the content. There is no reason to add an explicit link.


What you did was just post a chunk of writing that wasn't your writing. Yes, you do need to post a source when you do that. Is that news to you? 

 

You're not really interested in Guyana, right? That's OK. I'm not either. But you posed here that you are. 

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On 4/22/2019 at 9:25 AM, Jingthing said:

Well the national cultures are not the same but I understand not loving everything about these cultures. I certainly don't. I also certainly don't love everything about Thai culture or the culture of my home country. Yes we do have a culture.

I guess we can add level of loving or hating the local culture to the list of factors in making a destination decision. Put it up there with weather?

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I learned Spanish years ago and travel to few countries in central and south America; they are all the same IMO. A Church, a plaza, grid streets, a bar. Native culture is interesting, beaches are nice but the people are mostly Catholic. They can be very loud, aggressive, arrogant, steel bars on the windows in every building a lot of violent criminals. Drunks, food is the same too, not great. Latins are bit lazy, stores are always closed.. 

They didn't care that i took the time to learn their language either. Yes socialism: it is ok to rob a gringo because he's a rich imperialist.

Every time i meet a Latino traveling i am reminded how arrogant and self centered they are, and i think to myself i'm not going back there. I just feel board, it's expensive too.

Complete opposite to Thailand and Asia. But it's been a while i might try again, looks to be lots of cheap bungalows and apartments to rent in CR, Ecuador you can buy land and Panama.

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I learned Spanish years ago and travel to few countries in central and south America; they are all the same IMO. A Church, a plaza, grid streets, a bar. Native culture is interesting, beaches are nice but the people are mostly Catholic. They can be very loud, aggressive, arrogant, steel bars on the windows in every building a lot of violent criminals. Drunks, food is the same too, not great. Latins are bit lazy, stores are always closed.. 

They didn't care that i took the time to learn their language either. Yes socialism: it is ok to rob a gringo because he's a rich imperialist.

Every time i meet a Latino traveling i am reminded how arrogant and self centered they are, and i think to myself i'm not going back there. I just feel board, it's expensive too.

Complete opposite to Thailand and Asia. But it's been a while i might try again, looks to be lots of cheap bungalows and apartments to rent in CR, Ecuador you can buy land and Panama.

I think you can buy land in most of the Latin American nations. Some may have restrictions such as in Mexico if near a coast or border. I don't really agree about your generalizations. I've noticed distinctions between the nations even with my limited Spanish. The food being the same? That is totally wrong. Yeah, sure Peruvian food is the same as Argentinian food is the same as Mexican food. No it isn't. 

 

Of course, fully acknowledged, any country in Latin America is going to be VERY DIFFERENT than Thailand. There are some seriously difficult things in some of the Latin American nations such as the need for a fiador to rent an apartment in Colombia which almost no expat will have. 

 

But the premise of this thread is that many people for very good reasons are thinking about (or something more forceful) leaving Thailand, so people need to go somewhere after that.

 

Some of the nations in Latin America might be reasonably attractive somewheres for some of those people. 

 

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When pasting a video the link for that video is always embedded in the content. There is no reason to add an explicit link.


What you did was just post a chunk of writing that wasn't your writing. Yes, you do need to post a source when you do that. Is that news to you? 

 

You're not really interested in Guyana, right? That's OK. I'm not either. But you posed here that you are. 

Is this another one of your rules for this topic? ( in bold )

 

After some more research i've discovered Guyan has waterfalls, i like them. They also have some mountains, i love a mountain.

 

It's looking promising, i'll continue with more research.

 

Thank you.

 

 

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Is this another one of your rules for this topic? ( in bold )

 

After some more research i've discovered Guyan has waterfalls, i like them. They also have some mountains, i love a mountain.

 

It's looking promising, i'll continue with more research.

 

Thank you.

 

 

No, it's a general rule for all. Educate yourself.

Also you never have permission to change the emphasis in OTHER PEOPLE's posts. You do your posts, I'll do mine. That's only fair. 

 

If you want to be on topic here (doubtful), do some research on their VISA situation for long term expatriation, quality of life for expats, cost levels, and pros and cons of living there if even realistically possible and then share it here. I'm not really interested but some others may be. I suppose I should mention why I'm not really interested. Long ago, I did do some superficial research on Guyana as an expat destination and it sounded HORRIBLE. I suppose it may have changed, but I seriously doubt it. But go ahead and knock yourself out exploring Guyana. 

 

Cheers.

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No, it's a general rule for all. Educate yourself.

Also you never have permission to change the emphasis in posts. You do your posts, I'll do mine. That's only fair. 


If you want to be on topic here, do some research on their VISA situation for long term expatriation, quality of life for expats, cost levels, and pros and cons of living there if even realistically possible.

Topic is about expats leaving Thailand because of no money (visa changes).  Certainly not much better in Latin America since you didn't need any money to stay in Thailand - only income or the ability to go home once every two years.  It would of course be different if the topic was about Latin America an alternative to Thailand but it's not.  It's about visa changes and moving. 

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Topic is about expats leaving Thailand because of no money (visa changes).  Certainly not much better in Latin America since you didn't need any money to stay in Thailand - only income or the ability to go home once every two years. 

Bait ignored. 

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No, it's a general rule for all. Educate yourself.

Also you never have permission to change the emphasis in OTHER PEOPLE's posts. You do your posts, I'll do mine. That's only fair. 

 

If you want to be on topic here (doubtful), do some research on their VISA situation for long term expatriation, quality of life for expats, cost levels, and pros and cons of living there if even realistically possible and then share it here. I'm not really interested but some others may be. I suppose I should mention why I'm not really interested. Long ago, I did do some superficial research on Guyana as an expat destination and it sounded HORRIBLE. I suppose it may have changed, but I seriously doubt it. But go ahead and knock yourself out exploring Guyana. 

 

Cheers.

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Bait ignored.

An erroneous statement based on a false premise.

There was no bait.  And you have not ignored it.

Therefore, you have not ignored something which wasn’t bait, rendering your assertion not only incorrect, but unintelligible.

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