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43 minutes ago, onera1961 said:

It just boggles my mind why Europeans want to come all the way to Thailand. They have better options in Spain, Portugal and Malta. I have lived in Albuferia and Benidorm and liked it. But I can't stay more than 3-months. I have to spend my next trip for three months in Malta. 

i think like everyone else, i didnt anticipate the extent

of visa hassle & cost when the body dont comply,

plus, internet was still in its infancy when i came,

so there wasnt any real source either of caribbean

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Well Americans can go to Puerto Rico for their 3rd world spanish fix, its not really bad (other than the fact its 3rd world spanish), just super expensive...

 

Or the US Virgin Islands. U can get a place for about $800 a month. There ya go.

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I'm surprised that there's been no mention of Belize and Honduras (Bay Islands/Roatan, not the mainland). Both have relatively painless visa requirements for retirees, as well as simple pathways to permanent residency. Both very popular with expats, and Belize in particular is an English speaking country.
I did mention Belize before. Personally I don't qualify and I'm not much interested as I have an impression of the place as a backwater.

Honduras might not be on many people's radar these days perhaps related to current events such as migrant caravans and what not. Of course I realize there are some nice places there.

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1 hour ago, brokenbone said:

i just did. these are relevant to you.

 

Martinique, Guadeloupe and French Guiana :

These are French overseas departments & part of the EU. No residency requirements for EU and EEA passport holders.

St. Barthelemy : no residency requirements for EU & EEA passport holders.

 

you got your PR the second the plane lands, free,

no reason to ever go to IO

 

 

 

My home-country is not part of the EU.

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Was hoping someone would post a short list of "Long Term Residency" requirements concerning the different SA Countries mentioned here. Without such a basic list, all we are doing here is practising the fine art "guessing".

 

Well if someone wants to take on such a large project considering this includes many nations they are welcome. I for one am not volunteering to produce such a document especially considering the rules and issues with the rules are a moving target. But a general difference from Thailand is that a number of these countries have a path sometimes from the start to permanent residency and even citizenship based on retirement status. An impossible dream in Thailand.

I do know a fair bit about some of these countries retirement visa systems.

Instead of demanding a comprehensive list perhaps people want to start to talk about specific Latin American nations and then we can start to talk about their specific known residency rules. I personally am not volunteering to research every country in response to questions as I've already rejected many of the nation's and this isn't a paid job but others that are interested may choose to pipe in and share either their research findings or better yet recent personal experience.

 

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1 hour ago, swissie said:

Was hoping someone would post a short list of "Long Term Residency" requirements concerning the different SA Countries mentioned here.
Without such a basic list, all we are doing here is practising the fine art "guessing".

I had such a list before I decided to move to Thailand. That was 10 years ago. Have nothing "up to date".

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I had such a list before I decided to move to Thailand. That was 10 years ago. Have nothing "up to date".
Yes it would be almost useless now!

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1 hour ago, Nyezhov said:

Well Americans can go to Puerto Rico for their 3rd world spanish fix, its not really bad (other than the fact its 3rd world spanish), just super expensive...

 

Or the US Virgin Islands. U can get a place for about $800 a month. There ya go.

still, PR & citizenship & national health care beats the snot out of papaya pok pok & fried larvae any day of the week

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Americans moving to American territories is not really on topic here. For non Americans the USA and its territories do not offer a retirement visa.

 

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8 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Americans moving to American territories is not really on topic here. For non Americans the USA and its territories do not offer a retirement visa.

 

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yes, i always refer to whichever nationality that get PR/citizenship.

i have become convinced its the no1 priority,

i wont expose myself to visa runs, permission to stay,

and shit like that if theres any way around it, ever again.

let the backpackers go to asia,

while we have a cigar and a glass of bordeaux

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14 minutes ago, brokenbone said:

yes, i always refer to whichever nationality that get PR/citizenship.

i have become convinced its the no1 priority,

i wont expose myself to visa runs, permission to stay,

and shit like that if theres any way around it, ever again.

let the backpackers go to asia

From my POV permanent residence is a very high priority indeed. Of course as another member mentioned that can be still be taken away, but of course citizenship would be much more secure. Ironically my top choice Latin American nation Colombia is the only nation that I'm aware of that has previously backed away from what they called "lifetime" visas and degraded them to 5 year visas. That happened to people that actually had lifetime visas in their passports! Not cool. Anyway, that was in the past, and their current system is interesting. For retirement you apply initially for a three year visa, then if you want to continue to stay you apply for another three year stay, but at five years you are then eligible for permanent residence. The financial pension requirements are very low and based on a multiple of national minimum wage, currently well under 1000 USD monthly. Citizenship is also an option. I recently heard of a credible report of a Colombia initial three year retirement visa being done in about week with the help of a lawyer and no need to travel to Bogota, and the financial proof was based on a social security benefits letter officialized by the U.S. embassy in Bogota. (For those aware of the behavior of the U.S. embassy in Bangkok, there is some rich irony there).That's pretty good but not the best as far as residency. Peru offers it from initial application, though the process can take months (probably best to base in Lima during that period), and Mexico has an initial option to go for permanent residence from the start (or you can do annual applications … oh what fun). Peru's pension requirements are also very low. Mexico's financial requirements based on pension are comparable to Thailand for their income method but if you show money in your home country, that's another option. Approximately 25K USD for the annual, and 95K USD for the permanent. That money does not need to be in Mexico. I was wondering if that money could be in a retirement account such as an IRA and based on what I recently read at a Mexican consulate website, I think probably yes, but that information isn't certain and would need to be confirmed. 

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8 hours ago, Nyezhov said:

Columbian and Brazilain women are cheap and hot though(as long as you can weed out the ones with asses the size of two pigs under a blanket). However, there are far better places in this world than anywhere in South/latin America

Yep,  like  uhhh   Thailand !

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