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BANGKOK 19 May 2019 19:17
david_je

Any Americans here created an IRS online account?

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23 hours ago, alex8912 said:

I think you have to be in the states to open account and probably to log on in general. I set mine up last summer when I was in the states and was just there last month and it works fine. I could not create an account when in Thailand. Just as well I don’t want them to know where I am anyways. 

Created my EFPTS account years ago in the USA and view it regularly here in Thailand without VPN.

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I have not tried to sign up to view my IRS account, but I have been using EFPTS in Thailand for years.

 

I have also been filling federal taxes on IRS's website for free in Thailand for years. Just use an inactive phone number. https://www.irs.gov/filing/free-file-fillable-forms/free-file-fillable-forms-military-and-international-filers

 

In retirement my taxes are basically the same every year, so I do not need an accountant. I may use turbo tax to help check my math. Only $79.99 for the premier version.

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i have both an IRS.gov and a SSA.gov. accounts that i set while living here in Thailand. I also have a US Skype number that i use for all such purposes such as call backs and sms's. I do have VPN but don't have to use it to get thru. I think the problem you and others are having is not a valid us phone number. I use a US postal address and my US skype number and have enrolled in both programs with no problem.

 

For your info the skype number costs $ 52.00 per year and is renewable every year. Hope this helps 

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On 3/9/2019 at 12:30 PM, Blue bruce said:

i have both an IRS.gov and a SSA.gov. accounts that i set while living here in Thailand. I also have a US Skype number that i use for all such purposes such as call backs and sms's. I do have VPN but don't have to use it to get thru. I think the problem you and others are having is not a valid us phone number. I use a US postal address and my US skype number and have enrolled in both programs with no problem.

 

For your info the skype number costs $ 52.00 per year and is renewable every year. Hope this helps 

Thanks for that. But problem is I and at least one other poster here could not get past the second screen on the online application for IRS.gov account, before they ask for any phone number. It just says our inputted info is in error, which it isn't. When did you register for your IRS.gov account while in Thailand, and was the registration application same as it is now? By the way, does the account show all transactions made with IRS, notices send to you, receipt of mailed payments, etc.? What is scope of info? I registered to pay by EFTPS, but I believe that only shows payments made by EFTPS, nothing else. Thanks.

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Yea, I can't get past the second screen....1st screen just confirms your email address....I get past that one no problem.  2nd screen you enter name, SSAN, birthdate and address....I can't get past that one. 

 

1st or 2nd screen does not ask for your phone number...that must occur somewhere after the second screen which I can't get past. 

 

Tried it  again a few minutes ago two times using minor variations of the address I have used for the past 10 years to file tax returns which is the address they ask for on the 2nd screen....no luck.  Will try again in a few more days.  Stopped after two attempts today because if you fail to register after three tries it locks you out for 24 hours....and I expect it probably keeping count of previous tries (like my 2 tries this morning and some other tries over the last week).  Will not be surprised if at some point it just locks me out permanently until I call the IRS and try to work out the registration problem.  I really don't need the account....but it would be nice to have I figure to be able to check on your tax records via online.

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For your info the skype number costs $ 52.00 per year and is renewable every year.

Pricey compared to MagicJack. But, that's for another topic.

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Well, I got past the 2nd screen tonight with a variation of my address.  Got to the screen where they ask to verify your name via your mobile number which means you need to have a post paid/fully registered mobile account.  Said up front a Google Voice number wouldn't work but that's what I tried....and it wouldn't work....their system said they can't verify my name against that number.

 

So, they are mailing me an activation code to my APO address which they said is suppose to arrive within 5 to 10 calendar days and if you don't get it within 15 days you have to request another one.  Nice way of saying the activation code should arrive your mail box within 10 calendar days and you need to use it by then....maybe they will give you up to 15 days to use the activation code.  But after 15 days it's probably expired....start over.  Typically it takes about 12 days for mail to get from the US to my APO address.

 

Will give an update in a couple of weeks....did I receive the code via mail in time...did it work...etc?

 

 

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On 3/21/2019 at 9:29 PM, Pib said:

Well, I got past the 2nd screen tonight with a variation of my address.  Got to the screen where they ask to verify your name via your mobile number which means you need to have a post paid/fully registered mobile account.  Said up front a Google Voice number wouldn't work but that's what I tried....and it wouldn't work....their system said they can't verify my name against that number.

 

So, they are mailing me an activation code to my APO address which they said is suppose to arrive within 5 to 10 calendar days and if you don't get it within 15 days you have to request another one.  Nice way of saying the activation code should arrive your mail box within 10 calendar days and you need to use it by then....maybe they will give you up to 15 days to use the activation code.  But after 15 days it's probably expired....start over.  Typically it takes about 12 days for mail to get from the US to my APO address.

 

Will give an update in a couple of weeks....did I receive the code via mail in time...did it work...etc?

 

 

Hi, how did you vary your address such that you were able to proceed? Address must be same as on tax return, no? Good to know there's option to get the code by mail. Do they require that it be mailed only to the address used in tax return? In my case that would be Bangkok, and it often takes more than 15 days for letters to arrive.

Thank you for your update, and please let us know when you get the code.

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My address is a military APO address...the first address line uses an abbreviation of the APO organization versus a street name "and then followed by a box number."  I stumbled upon a webpage saying in those cases only enter P.O. Box 1234 or Box 1234 type entry for the street address....I did that and it worked.

 

They use address you used to register with which is the address onfile with the IRS.  The address you have onfile with the IRS is probably going to be the address you used on your last federal tax return.  I say "probably" because people do change address after filing their return and can update the IRS of their new address by submission of a form to update their address in case they just don't want to wait until they file their next return.  

 

Yeap, I hear you taking around two weeks for mail to arrive Thailand from the US....even to my military APO address here in Bangkok...a typical mailing/letter takes around 10-12 day to arrive.  So, I'm going to check my APO at around the 9 day point...this Thursday or Friday to see if the letter arrived but I'm not holding my  breath.  If it don't arrive by late this week I'll check again early next week just under the 15 day point.  From the IRS registration page weasel/vague wording it implied I should get and use the activation code within 10 days...and if not getting it within 15 days to ask for another one/remailing.  So, that implies to me I will have up to 15 days to use the activation code before it expires....or maybe 10 days is the limit....the IRS wording was just vague. 

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I am going through the process of getting my stepson's IRS records for him.  He lived+worked in US for a few years and then moved back to Thailand.  He's not sure if he filed US taxes for his last year so we need to make sure his tax status is good.

 

I couldn't complete the registration of an IRS account on his behalf because he couldn't remember which address he used for his last filing.  I tried some likely addresses until locked out for that day.  I decided to go down a different path.

 

There is a slow process to get around the address problem.  Download form IRS 4506-T and complete it, sign it and mail it to them.  Hopefully the transcripts you receive will contain the exact address they are expecting when you are registering for the IRS online account.  I gave the link to the IRS webpage describing this process in a previous post about IRS accounts.

 

I retrieved this link from that previous post  LINK

 

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And in that LINK gamb00ler gave above is how to format your address entry....that IRS webpage I said I stumbled upon but couldn't find again that gave instructions on how to enter an address using a box number like a APO address....and it worked for me.

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On 3/21/2019 at 9:29 PM, Pib said:

Well, I got past the 2nd screen tonight with a variation of my address.  Got to the screen where they ask to verify your name via your mobile number which means you need to have a post paid/fully registered mobile account.  Said up front a Google Voice number wouldn't work but that's what I tried....and it wouldn't work....their system said they can't verify my name against that number.

 

So, they are mailing me an activation code to my APO address which they said is suppose to arrive within 5 to 10 calendar days and if you don't get it within 15 days you have to request another one.  Nice way of saying the activation code should arrive your mail box within 10 calendar days and you need to use it by then....maybe they will give you up to 15 days to use the activation code.  But after 15 days it's probably expired....start over.  Typically it takes about 12 days for mail to get from the US to my APO address.

 

Will give an update in a couple of weeks....did I receive the code via mail in time...did it work...etc?

 

And here's the promised update. 

 

Received the activation code in the mail today...took 19 days to get to me, although it might have arrived on 4 Apr ( 5 days ago) but the APO mailroom was closed until today/9 Apr.   Anyway took me around 19 days to get the code via mail.

 

When I opened the IRS letter I figured the activation code would have an Expiration Date which was already past...like good for only 10 to 15 days like implied when requesting the code...like talked in my above post.    But thankfully the activation code was good for 30 days from 21 March which is when I initially requested...so the code was still go till around 21 Apr.

 

Anyway, I used the code to activate my account....I got logged on.  Logged on several times via VPN with US IP address and also without VPN using a Thai IP address....no problems logging on from a Thai IP address. 

 

During the activation they also require you to setup 2 Factor Authorization to receive a security code for each logon...you can choose to receive the code via a voice call or text.   I choose the text to my Google Voice (GV) number....worked fined as I logged on probably 4 times.....got the security code to my GV number within a second or two.   While your  GV number can "not" be used for identity verification during the initial registration (i.e, what I did on 21 Mar), a GV number works fine to receive the 2FA security code to logon each time.

 

I surfed around a little for about 15 minutes....will look more over the coming days.  I looked at my tax transcripts.  Also went into the area to see if I owed any taxes and where I could pay any outstanding taxes...even setup a payment plan.   I owed no taxes...and it showed the small amount I had to paid this year when I filed by 2018 return in mid March....yea, I didn't get  refund...had to send Uncle Sam a little more than I had deducted throughout the year.

 

Anyway, I now have an IRS account.     And if you need to receive an activation code to finalize your registration its good for 30 days which should be plenty of time to reach you in the mail before the code expires.

 

 

 

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