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Why do we only read about situations like this in Thailand?
 Never read about cases like this happening in Europe!
And I can tell you why - The problem is not the tourists.
 First those with valid licenses might have rented vehicles in the past in other countries and automatically assume that they are properly insured. Why does Thailand allow people to operate or companies to rent out vehicles without proper insurance? Especially for rented vehicles there should be comprehensive insurance mandatory!
 
For tourists the problem are Thai rental companies and nobody else!
 Thai rental companies should be held accountable for renting vehicles out to people without a proper license to drive - like in every other country - period!
 
I am not even sure if all of them do have a business license themselves to rent out vehicles?
 There is no way you could rent a vehicle in Europe without the rental company checking if you are licensed to drive such a vehicle!
 
Just look at the disgusting charade that is going on in Chiang Mai every single day.
 Rental companies rent out motorbikes to probably hundreds of people without a driving license every single day!
The police is then lurking around the corners around the moat and fine the tourists a 1000 baht for driving without a valid license.
 
When the tourist should have never been able to rent a bike without a valid license in the first place.
 
And then it comes - after taking the money - the tourists are then allowed by the police to carry-on and drive around without a license!
 
Rental companies who rent out vehicles without proper insurance to people without a license and police should be held responsible if accidents happen - not the tourists who should have never been able to rent a vehicle!
 
 
 
 
 
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Yes, many nanny states have caused their citizens to totally depend on the government or corporations to ensure their safety and well being. An individual can not be responsible for their own actions. Any unfortunate incidents are the fault of government / corporations.


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2 hours ago, smedly said:

so what   ?

 

out of the millions that come here and spend money in Thailand every year making them billions (12% of the countries GDP) how many end up with a medical emergency like the OP, it is so insignificant it isn't worth considering, Thailand is dangerous especially on the roads - it is their duty to make it as safe as possible for people who come here for a holiday, it's not as if they haven't had long enough to improve things.

 

But regardless of that, considering the very small number of people that end up in this sort of situation while here on holiday it is no real big deal (all things considered) for the country to provide free emergency medical assistance to the few that need it, they make huge revenue from tourism how about giving some back when some fall foul of the poor safety.

 

Not so long ago we had some children that got themselves into trouble in a cave - there was no shortage of foreign volunteers willing to put their lives at serious risk to save them. 

All good points smedly, but my view is that people come to Thailand expecting something approaching 1st world standards in infrastructure, safety, medical support etc, when that is clearly not the case. I know none of this is mentioned in the glossy tourism brochures,  but 10 minutes on the net can give anyone a much more accurate picture. Caveat emptor.

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Apart from the medical bills and cost of a flight home I assume the people who rented out the bike to a guy without a valid driving licence want paying for the damage to the bike...

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20 minutes ago, happy chappie said:

Lots of reasons why the insurance will refuse to pay out.1 being if he had 12 months travel insurance he can only travel for 90 days before he needs to return to the uk else it becomes invalid.2 no license as most policies require you to have a full motor bike license from your own country and also an international driving license from the post office in the uk.also the scooter must not be above 125cc.when I've rented scooters I've always stipulated I want a 125cc not 135 or 150cc.i don't think any travel insurance would cover anyone for big bike in Thailand.

To be fair, he may not have exceeded the 90 days at the time of the accident. but yes, many do not bother to understand or care about the limitations of any insurance they may have.

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3 hours ago, smedly said:

so what   ?

 

out of the millions that come here and spend money in Thailand every year making them billions (12% of the countries GDP) how many end up with a medical emergency like the OP, it is so insignificant it isn't worth considering, Thailand is dangerous especially on the roads - it is their duty to make it as safe as possible for people who come here for a holiday, it's not as if they haven't had long enough to improve things.

 

But regardless of that, considering the very small number of people that end up in this sort of situation while here on holiday it is no real big deal (all things considered) for the country to provide free emergency medical assistance to the few that need it, they make huge revenue from tourism how about giving some back when some fall foul of the poor safety.

 

Not so long ago we had some children that got themselves into trouble in a cave - there was no shortage of foreign volunteers willing to put their lives at serious risk to save them. 

 

It is the law that all hospitals, state owned or private, must provide free emergency treatment for the first 72 hours.

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12 minutes ago, Basil B said:

Apart from the medical bills and cost of a flight home I assume the people who rented out the bike to a guy without a valid driving licence want paying for the damage to the bike...

Wonder if they still have his passport?

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58 minutes ago, Blackheart1916 said:

All good points smedly, but my view is that people come to Thailand expecting something approaching 1st world standards in infrastructure, safety, medical support etc, when that is clearly not the case. I know none of this is mentioned in the glossy tourism brochures,  but 10 minutes on the net can give anyone a much more accurate picture. Caveat emptor.

And it's up to each individual to either acquaint themselves with the destination and medical facilities etc., etc, or not do so, in which case it's buyer beware, nothing more nothing less.

 

Some questions:

 

- Why would people expect 1st world standards in Thailand?

 

- Surely the majority of travellers would already know Thailand is a poor and developing country, and those that don't know when they see hotel prices (just one example) at beach resorts, US$25- a day with breakfast, and down even much lower, would they not realize Thailand is a poor developing country? 

 

- Specifically in regard to health care, whether the standards in Thailand are first world or otherwise, it still leaves totally open who pays.

 

- Most travellers seem to ignore the need for travel and medical insurance. Would these folks seriously expect Thailand to pay their medical bills? I certainly hope not, surely these folks have a better understanding of right and wrong / personal responsibility / and morals.

 

- An open discussion points - I wonder how many travel agents in the UK (and other countries) mention to potential clients the need to take travel & medical insurance. Seems to me a few agents would but a much larger number just don't care, in fact they want the payment for the tour now and they are not likely to mention add ons which will increase the costs and possibly kill the sale. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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