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BANGKOK 19 March 2019 02:52
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British man who 'started new life' in Thailand desperately ill amid insurance wrangle

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19 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

What about self responsibility? Too many young people think it's always up to "someone else" to be responsible for them.

He comes from a nanny state, so he may have thought it was up to "someone else", but in LOS it's up to the individual to act responsibly, not wait to be told what to do. LOS is no nanny state, and a good thing too, IMO.

we are not all flawless like you

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I recall out diving one day, I was diving a wreak at about 28m towards the end of the dive the dive leader lead us off the wreak to the "UXB" about 100m from the wreak, I hovered about 2m above the group as they prodded it with their knives, on surfacing the dive leader, a well experienced British expat diving instructor wanted to know what the problem was, apart from the dive briefing which there had been no mention of  the detour, or the fact it was at 32m, I explained my insurance only covered me down to 30m.

 

This was as I recall a condition of all the travel insurances that I had looked at the time, yet the instructor was unaware of this... 

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1 hour ago, NanLaew said:

Dunno Sammy, that's a tough 'un.

 

What did you learn BTW?

I didn't learn anything about myself being in Thailand. I'm not really one of those "Eat Pray Love" types who has to go somewhere else in the world to "find myself"

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19 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Wonder if they still have his passport?

My thoughts too...

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1 hour ago, boonrawdcnx said:

Why do we only read about situations like this in Thailand?

 Never read about cases like this happening in Europe!

And I can tell you why - The problem is not the tourists.

 

 

For tourists the problem are Thai rental companies and nobody else!

 Thai rental companies should be held accountable for renting vehicles out to people without a proper license to drive - like in every other country - period!

 

I am not even sure if all of them do have a business license themselves to rent out vehicles?

 There is no way you could rent a vehicle in Europe without the rental company checking if you are licensed to drive such a vehicle!

 

Just look at the disgusting charade that is going on in Chiang Mai every single day.

 Rental companies rent out motorbikes to probably hundreds of people without a driving license every single day!

The police is then lurking around the corners around the moat and fine the tourists a 1000 baht for driving without a valid license.

 

When the tourist should have never been able to rent a bike without a valid license in the first place.

 

And then it comes - after taking the money - the tourists are then allowed by the police to carry-on and drive around without a license!

 

Rental companies who rent out vehicles without proper insurance to people without a license and police should be held responsible if accidents happen - not the tourists who should have never been able to rent a vehicle!

Do you not understand the concept of personal responsibility? I've not seen one motorcycle rental company force a tourist at gunpoint to rent one of the motos. Tourists make a choice, the companies provide the bike to do it. 

 

Comparing Thailand to Europe shows flawed logic as well. Thailand is a developing country, it's not Europe. There is minimal comparisons that can be made. 

 

Also, the cops around the moat normally charge 200 - 400 baht, so don't be so dramatic. 

 

Tourists make these choices knowing full well they're not licenced to ride the bikes. There have been enough of these idiots in the news around the world to also know that travel insurance doesn't cover motorbike accidents as well. It's solely the tourists fault if they have an accident. I came to Thailand frequently over the course of 10 years before moving here, and I never hired a moto for the very reason that I knew travel insurance wouldn't cover me. It's only since I've got my licence, backed up by comprehensive expat insurance that I choose to drive one. 

 

But no, you're right. It's Thailand's fault, 

 

 

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4 hours ago, webfact said:

he did not have a licence to ride the moped.

Read the insurance policy carefully.  Typically, as seems to be the case here, the person was not licensed to ride a motorbike in his home country.  Most tourists, I am sure percentage wise, that ride the scooters around Thailand while on vacation are NOT licensed to drive motorbikes in their home countries.  No problems until things go really bad.  If anybody knows any insurance companies that really do treat casual motorbike riders well that may be on vacations, please post

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I will repeat what I said earlier, Thailand has a responsiblility to keep its visitors and citizens safe, it fails miserably on all fronts, I find it hard to believe people here think that tourists who are severely injured when holidaying here are 100% to blame

 

If you went on holiday to London right now and got attacked and stabbed on the street - who gets the blame for that one ????? 

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5 minutes ago, colinneil said:

Can you say 100% he did not have drink in him?

No you cant so stop, how do you know for sure it was a hit and run? You dont.

 

OMG I am basing my comments on the reporting that has been made available. 1. states very clearly in the first paragraph of the news report that it was a "hit and run" 2. No where in the news report does it mention that he was drinking.  

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Moto rental companies should insist on seeing a valid motorcycle licence and International Driving Permit indicating motorcycle before they let you rent. Insurance to be provided by the rental company.

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8 minutes ago, GreenerGrass said:

OMG I am basing my comments on the reporting that has been made available. 1. states very clearly in the first paragraph of the news report that it was a "hit and run" 2. No where in the news report does it mention that he was drinking.  

No where in the report said he had not been drinking.

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29 minutes ago, SammyT said:

Do you not understand the concept of personal responsibility

do you understand the responsibility of a country you visit (especially one that markets itself as a prime tourist destination) on vacation and the responsibility they have to you to make best efforts to keep you safe by enforcing laws and safety standards

 

what is it they call themselves "Amazing Thailand" - yes amazing if you get to go home without some lawless drunk idiot hitting you with a hammer or a car, or some rental company giving you a vehicle that you are not licenced to drive

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