webfact Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Video: "U-Turn of Death" where there is a fatality almost every day Daily News reported on a U-turn in Nan in northern Thailand where they said there was a fatality almost every day. The police had shut it but the locals demanded it be reopened as they would have to go out of their way to turn. But in two of the latest clips from the U-turn it looks like the police have a case. In the first from just yesterday a motorcycle crosses over the road from the left causing a pick-up to swerve to avoid him and collide with parked vehicles. The driver is in a grievous condition after the smash. The motorcyclist just drove off as if nothing had happened. He is now helping the police with their inquiries. In the second clip at the same location from Tuesday, just two days before, another motorcycle is seen cutting in front of a postal service vehicle. The postal van has no chance and the motorcyclist pays with his life. Thaivisa notes that Daily News are running campaigns to try to help reduce the carnage on the Thai roads that has seen the kingdom named as one of the most dangerous places in the world to drive. They said that local sources in Nan reported that the police had earlier closed this U-turn because of frequent accidents. But they had re-opened it after complaints that motorists would have to go too far out of their way to use alternative U-turns. They called this particular spot "U-turn morana" - The U-turn of Death. Source: Daily News -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2019-03-08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksidedog Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Truly awful driving by both bikes. Neither of them pays any attention whatsoever to the traffic. I'd say it isn't the U-Turn itself that is the cause of the problem, more like the complete idiocy of those using it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenslegs Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 IMHO - A properly designed roundabout would prevent most 'accidents' there. Oh, and a campaign to educate motorists on how to negotiate one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, darksidedog said: Truly awful driving by both bikes. Neither of them pays any attention whatsoever to the traffic. I'd say it isn't the U-Turn itself that is the cause of the problem, more like the complete idiocy of those using it. My thoughts exactly. I simply cannot express how appalling and thoughtless the driving of the two motorcyclists in the two separate clips was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Absolute total disregard for their own safety. The first motorcyclist was lucky but the second paid with his life. I feel sorry for the truck drivers, the first for his injuries and the second for the trauma he must be feeling at being involved in the death of another although not his fault in anyway at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, darksidedog said: Truly awful driving by both bikes. Neither of them pays any attention whatsoever to the traffic. I'd say it isn't the U-Turn itself that is the cause of the problem, more like the complete idiocy of those using it. Exactly. Won't matter where U turns are located if people try to make U turns from other than the right lane and despite presence of other traffic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Quote The police had shut it but the locals demanded it be reopened as they would have to go out of their way to turn. Fine, install a wood chipper in the intersection to ensure 100% get chopped. Since they don't care. Darwinism at it's finest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeEyedRaven Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Unbelievably stupid driving by both bikes. If that is indicative of the amount of care and attention of road users up there, I am not surprised there are lots of accidents. A blind man would be paying more attention to what is going on than those two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, darksidedog said: Truly awful driving by both bikes. Neither of them pays any attention whatsoever to the traffic. The drivers are straight out of a rice field with the fastest traffic being buffaloes. No license, no training, nada, just hop on a scooter and oh the feeling of invincibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 In both situations the motorcyclists didn't look at all.... not even a glance. Speed is of course a factor with the Pickups barreling through a junction at speed without any consideration to the possibility of another vehicle doing something stupid. But, IF the motorcyclists simply looked both accidents would have been avoided - I'm aghast at the frequency which which motorcyclists pull into traffic without looking... I can't understand it, I can't imagine it... are they that vacant ?.... But I expect it, that's all we can do and why I have a Dash-cam on both my Bike and in my car. So yes, the U-Turn is dangerous, all U-Turns are inherently dangerous because of the way people use them here, but in both the example videos these motorcyclists are incidents waiting to happen at any junction at any time because they failed to follow the most basic of basics - looking ! I feel for the pickup driver who successfully avoided the motorcyclists and hurt himself in the process (no seatbelt ?)... but it does appear that he was going through a junction very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 17 minutes ago, darksidedog said: I'd say it isn't the U-Turn itself that is the cause of the problem, more like the complete idiocy of those using it. Same goes for all roads in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 First video, scooter rider causes a major accident, has a quick look, then continues his journey going the wrong way in the outside lane of a dual carriageway - at speed. Leeson learned? None. Thai style, love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonclark Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 What the hell - The motorcyclist in the first clip then proceeds the wrong way down a road into oncoming traffic. Both accidents could have been avoided if the motorcyclists just stopped at the junction and looked, and the trucks slowed down. As others have said, the junction is not to blame, but the poor driving skills are, and I feel the frustration of the police on this one, as the locals seem to put their convenience over life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, Spidey said: First video, scooter rider causes a major accident, has a quick look, then continues his journey going the wrong way in the outside lane of a dual carriageway - at speed. Leeson learned? None. Thai style, love it! He or she was just pausing to calculate how much the worth of the amulette went up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: I feel for the pickup driver who successfully avoided the motorcyclists and hurt himself in the process (no seatbelt ?)... but it does appear that he was going through a junction very quickly. Who gets the bill I wonder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Leave the U turn open and install these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, evadgib said: Who gets the bill I wonder? A passing farang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Spidey said: A passing farang. Many years ago on the DM tollway if there was a multi tail-ender the cops would pray there was an expat involved in it as he was likely to be the only one with insurance so it must have been his fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Never has autonomous vehicles been needed more in this bone head driving land???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
007cableguy Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 The bike caused the accident casually rides off the wrong way against the traffic !!......Truly retarded!Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMartinHandyman Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 “I'm aghast at the frequency which which motorcyclists pull into traffic without looking... I can't understand it, I can't imagine it... are they that vacant ?”Not looking is their way of being first by putting the burden of accident avoidance on the other party. It’s worked for them 100% of the time in the past so they keep doing it, until it doesn’t work. If they made eye contact they would have to concede it was incumbent on them to yield and that’s not being first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odysseus123 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, KMartinHandyman said: “I'm aghast at the frequency which which motorcyclists pull into traffic without looking... I can't understand it, I can't imagine it... are they that vacant ?” Not looking is their way of being first by putting the burden of accident avoidance on the other party. It’s worked for them 100% of the time in the past so they keep doing it, until it doesn’t work. If they made eye contact they would have to concede it was incumbent on them to yield and that’s not being first. I think that you are quite correct. It is an endless game of 'chicken' and the person who blinks first loses the turn.. Whilst the person who doesn't blink may lose his/her life. Anyway,I've given up on the Thai and their mind benumbing stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MekkOne Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I don't see any deadly U -Turn in there, I see deadly way of drive... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 This is where the rubber meets the road. Aggressive and/or ignorant Thai drivers facing a technical challenge such as gauging distance and speed while simultaneously ignoring all traffic laws and rules of right-of-way. Result? Lot's of dead bodies. This would be a perfect place for the authorities to take proactive measures regarding enforcement - but they won't. Put up more cameras so you know who to blame after the carnage...that's the Thai way on the highway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 44 minutes ago, evadgib said: Who gets the bill I wonder? His insurer (unless the motorcyclist's insurer covers it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterBaker Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Don't blame the u-turn, blame stupid people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 install a roundabout - simple a roundabout has two effects - slows everything down - provides safe filtering yes I know people will say Thais cannot use roundabouts properly - it doesn't matter because it slows everything down The key to roundabout implementation are clear road markings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, Briggsy said: My thoughts exactly. I simply cannot express how appalling and thoughtless the driving of the two motorcyclists in the two separate clips was. I've driven here for twelve years and you see this utter, suicidal stupidity every day you get on the road. Near miss after near miss until it no longer is a near miss. The moronic driving in itself is simply unfathomable. You have to drive defensively 100% of the time. No thing like enjoying a casual drive as back in the US. You can't let your guard down long enough to enjoy the drive because it doesn't seem to take more than a couple of minutes and some Thai in or on their vehicle will do some insane maneuver that forces you a take evasion action. I don't like driving here at all but it's a necessity - albeit, a necessity that is completely joyless. In the US I loved to drive; In Thailand I loath it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, smedly said: The key to roundabout implementation are clear road markings There is a roundabout near where I live. At least every minute, a vehicle, almost always a small bike like a Wave or Scoopy, goes a quarter of the way around it the wrong way rather than three-quarters the right way. Almost no vehicle gives way to vehicles already on the roundabout. I think a lot more than clear road markings is required to educate this lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denim Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Spacial awareness. Completely lacking in many Thais who just live in their own little bubble absorbed with their own thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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