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9 minutes ago, pikao said:

I have. Spent 14 years in Almeria province. Now I live in Thailand since 7 years. Andalucia (depending on where you stay) has a very bearable climate, also in winter. Lots of sun. Almeria 340 days a year. In the coldest months (Jan./Feb.) you still have an average of 18-20 degrees day and maybe 10-12 in the night. You would like to have some kind of heating device though. Or go to Thailand. The main factor for me was that even when it´s cool, the sun is shining. Very few grey days. Blue...

To tell you more I would need to know more about your requirements

If you like you can send me a message and I give you more information

I remember this thread from a couple of months back. 

 

Almeria is coastal and very near the desert where they filmed those spaghetti westerns. But overall it's not that interesting. 

 

Better options in Andalusia might include Seville, Cordoba and Granada. I can still remember the Alhambra, even though I went there years ago. 

 

If you've got serious cash, check out Marbella and Puerto Banus.

 

Like you say, great climate and fantastic food.  

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If I would choose a country in Eastern Europe it would be Hungary or Czech Republic. Beautiful people and nice old towns and villages.
Not sure about the costs there but someone told me it was cheap to rent in Budapest. And they do speak English in many parts of the country. But the cold winters are not attractive. 

 

In Western Europe I would pick Portugal. Already discussed.  


 

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1 hour ago, Pharoticus said:

Almeria is coastal and very near the desert where they filmed those spaghetti westerns. But overall it's not that interesting. 

 

Better options in Andalusia might include Seville, Cordoba and Granada. I can still remember the Alhambra, even though I went there years ago. 

 

If you've got serious cash, check out Marbella and Puerto Banus.

You are absolutely right about this. Depending on your lifestyle. I lived there in a Natural Park, my house, sea and mountain views and lots of space around. I loved it. But I don´t go out too much. If you need more "life" then the places you mentioned (or nearby) are better choices.

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Another vote for Portugal (Seems to hit the sweet spot for reasonable living costs/taxes, weather, things to do etc...)

 

Any other Brit's considering moving there why they still (Definitely) can...
 

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10 minutes ago, Mike Teavee said:

Another vote for Portugal (Seems to hit the sweet spot for reasonable living costs/taxes, weather, things to do etc...)

 

Any other Brit's considering moving there why they still (Definitely) can...
 

I'm starting to shift to Malaysia. Take off the rose-tinted googles and it's way better than Thailand. But so is just about everywhere. 

 

If I had no local connections or responsibilities, I'd head off to northern Portugal in an instant. 

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Just now, Jingthing said:

Thanks to the O.P. for starting the topic. 

Alternatives to Thailand that are in ASEAN are always covered well here already.

I started a thread specifically about alternatives in LATIN AMERICA.

There are some other possibilities as well that may not fit in the existing topics.

 

For examples --

South Africa (Africa)

Georgia (Eurasia)

Armenia (Eurasia)

 

Question - would you include EURASIA as fitting in this topic, or not? 

Hi

 

I know nothing of Georgia and Armenia, anyone who wishes to post about them is more than welcome to do so on here.

So  yes, it does fit,as would say Turkey which straddles the 2 continents. Which makes it Eurasia,Interesting country.

South Africa, did know someone who spent half their time there, other half in the UK. Probably not for me but no issue if someone wants to include it.

 

As you say  other Asean countries already covered as is Latin America by your own topic so almost anywhere else OK.

 

Cold countries I would not be interested in.

 

Cheers

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Just now, pikao said:

I have. Spent 14 years in Almeria province. Now I live in Thailand since 7 years. Andalucia (depending on where you stay) has a very bearable climate, also in winter. Lots of sun. Almeria 340 days a year. In the coldest months (Jan./Feb.) you still have an average of 18-20 degrees day and maybe 10-12 in the night. You would like to have some kind of heating device though. Or go to Thailand. The main factor for me was that even when it´s cool, the sun is shining. Very few grey days. Blue...

To tell you more I would need to know more about your requirements

If you like you can send me a message and I give you more information

Hi pikao.

 

Thanks for that.

It was actually Almeria I had been thinking of.

Climate sounds ideal.

 

I will do a little bit more reading and then get back to you with some questions.

 

Appreciate your offer.

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Thanks for the go ahead.

On South Africa perhaps Europe enough but not really if you include the Dutch and English influences, I looked into their visa system and surprisingly found I could qualify for their four year at a time retirement option.

The pension requirement is quite high but you can combine it (sound familiar) with showing money to add up a total of all expenses for a total of four years. My understanding is the pension and show money part does NOT need to be imported to SA but I'm not certain about that. The grand total for me because I can include four years of pension is actually quite a bit less than the large amount needed for permanent residence in Mexico (something like 125K USD). But SA is only four years at a time.

 

Of course people have safety and security concerns there. There are some great neighborhoods in Capetown but the rents are quite high. I'm not aware of other safe locations in that country that aren't very small towns that wouldn't interest most people but if people have suggestions, please say so, especially if they are cheaper than Capetown.

 

On the country of Georgia (not the grits U.S. state) they offer some interesting permanent residence options. My current information says you can get something like 5 years at a time (renewable) by showing a rather modest investment in the country. Perhaps only 35K USD and that could be a condo purchase though I don't think 35K buys much of a condo there. It sounds like a very interesting country. The language is quite strange and difficult (sorry) but I have read people under 35 generally speak English while the older people speak Russian. My understanding is that it is relatively affordable compared to Western Europe the location so close to Turkey certainly sounds interesting. Anyone that has spent time there, maybe we even have some Georgian people here, please do post and comment about the quality of life possible there. 

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23 hours ago, seasia said:

Hi

 

Has anyone spent time in both Andalusia  and Thailand?

Any thoughts ?

 

The former seems a nice region, climate quite good, costs not too high.

 

I came across this property web site with plenty of listings there,some of the places to rent seemed competitive in comparison to Thailand.

 

 

 

https://www.idealista.com/en/

 

been there 2005 & 2007, Sevilla and Cadiz, nice places hot and dry, great food, a lot of friendly gipsys musicians all around, nothing to compare to Thailand, warmer & more friendly people than thais, if stay away from Sevilla (10-20 Kms) one can find some nice properties, not to expensive

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On 3/10/2019 at 12:43 AM, Enki said:

People compare not with Thailand, they compare with Bangkok. There is no single place in Europe, including eastern Europe, that is in any regard cheaper than a nice rural village in Thailand. And I doubt you find bigger cities in Europe that are cheaper than Chiang Mai, Chiang Rai, Nakon Phanom or Krabi. Well, perhaps cheaper than expensive stuff in Chiang Mai.

You can basically live everywhere in Thailand on a budget of €500 per month (even in BKK), and much less if you insist. It will be very difficult to find a place like that in Europe.

Some life!

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Surprised more people haven't mentioned Turkey, big country with a lot of choices,, fairly inexpensive, has nightlife if you want it. Only thing is the food is very meat orientated IMO.

 

Also Georgia, the birthplace of wine! dirt cheap going out, food,  transport etc. Very friendly people, hot women, and the birthplace of Stalin. There is also a bit of a 'scene' there. Widespread in Tblisi.

 

Oh, and as of last year, marijuana is legal. 

 

Croatia coast very nice, but not too cheap these days.

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45 minutes ago, bermondburi said:

Surprised more people haven't mentioned Turkey, big country with a lot of choices,, fairly inexpensive, has nightlife if you want it. Only thing is the food is very meat orientated IMO.

 

Also Georgia, the birthplace of wine! dirt cheap going out, food,  transport etc. Very friendly people, hot women, and the birthplace of Stalin. There is also a bit of a 'scene' there. Widespread in Tblisi.

 

Oh, and as of last year, marijuana is legal. 

 

Croatia coast very nice, but not too cheap these days.

Yes, currently Georgia is significantly less expensive than Turkey. So it might be a good time to rush in there if you're interested in buying real estate in Tblisi. Some negatives I've heard -- bad air pollution, crazy drivers, unrestricted smoking in restaurants. 

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On 4/16/2019 at 5:06 PM, apknug said:

Have just scrolled through THE thread but i would say;

Albania.

One of the poorest countries in Europe with cattel om the Streets and stuff like that but very friendly People and great value for money. Nice Long costline with the adriatic sea.

Not the ideal place for the Winter and not part of EC. Have to check My passport to see how long they let me stay. But I think 90 days and after that a border run?

Skickat från min Lenovo TB-X704F via Tapatalk
 

Either trolling or joking? Albania is ruled by the "mafia" what ever they call it there. No one in his sane mind would relocate to there.

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