Sheryl Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 I find a huge percentage of people on the forum are sincere and caring about just about everything. Arthur was a friend of mine who i met through Brother Rays in pattaya. He met his thai friend and saved her from a life of #@*& at the Corner Bar pattaya. He was 86 then. (Mad fool). His wife of 62 years had passed. I suppose he found solace in his actions. It turned out she was from the same village as my partner in Nangrong. He saw no malice in her or anyone. Even at 91 he was teaching kids English in the village. Put the air conditioning in the house and within 3 to 4 days his lungs started to give up. One collapsed, the other filling with fluid. Coincidence,? I don't think so. I haven't had any replies yet from his daughter's. I'm not expecting good news. Just another thing that we all have to be mindful of when we choose to live in the Land of Smiles. We all have families and loved ones overseas. As Sheryl mentioned, a living will, or as i did with mum in the UK, we had a do not resuscitate in her medical care notes. ********************** I just seen on Facebook that Arthur passed away. 5am this morning. Someone posted pictures of his body being taken to the home in Nangrong. Oh well, we tried.. RIP Arthur Lea.My condolences. But at least he is at peace now and his time on life support wasn't that long Sent from my SM-J701F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Advanced care directives are only valid if drawn up while person can consult a medical person to explain the whole situation of refusing care. Appoint a medical attorney to act on their behalf if they cannot make decisions Doctors can choose to ignore them on ethical grounds, and are they even valid in Thailand?? Yes. Thailand enacted relevant law a few years ago.Sent from my SM-J701F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Kick the plug from the wall after disarming the machine No longer relevant since he has died. But I would strongly advice against anyone doing something like this. You could face very serious criminsl charges.Sent from my SM-J701F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 @dallen52 Tell the daughter to contact Dao Micallef Manager of the Asia Division AMAR International Asia S16 Residence, 256/9 Sukhumvit 16 Klong Toei, Bangkok 10110, Thailand Tel: +66 (0)2 258 59 46 Mobile: +66 (0)92 859 56 16 Email: [email protected] https://www.amarinternational.com/ This Australian based company deals specifically with deaths of foreigners abroad. They will help with all aspects, from funeral/cremation, paperwork with the Embassy etc. If they want to bring the body back to Oz, they can arrange this but as others have said that is extremely expensive. They can also arrange a no frills cremation in Thailand with preparation of the ashes in containers suitable for taking back by plane, which is often the preferred option. And they'll take care of Thai detah certificate and documentation from Australian Embassy needed to establish death for estate purposes back in Oz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallen52 Posted March 12, 2019 Author Share Posted March 12, 2019 4 hours ago, Sheryl said: @dallen52 Tell the daughter to contact Dao Micallef Manager of the Asia Division AMAR International Asia S16 Residence, 256/9 Sukhumvit 16 Klong Toei, Bangkok 10110, Thailand Tel: +66 (0)2 258 59 46 Mobile: +66 (0)92 859 56 16 Email: [email protected] https://www.amarinternational.com/ This Australian based company deals specifically with deaths of foreigners abroad. They will help with all aspects, from funeral/cremation, paperwork with the Embassy etc. If they want to bring the body back to Oz, they can arrange this but as others have said that is extremely expensive. They can also arrange a no frills cremation in Thailand with preparation of the ashes in containers suitable for taking back by plane, which is often the preferred option. And they'll take care of Thai detah certificate and documentation from Australian Embassy needed to establish death for estate purposes back in Oz. The daughters wishes are for his cremation and service in the village. Its a nice gesture for the people who have come to know him. And in the country where he dedicated himself to community service more than 20 years. Seems only fitting too. Tomorrow morning the final chanting. They will only have the ashes to transport back to Australia, plus a few possible personal items he had here. Thank you to all, for allowing me to share my story with you .. * Evidently the daughters put up a fight and the hospital agreed to transfer him to the home in the village. Where he passed away this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 3 hours ago, dallen52 said: * Evidently the daughters put up a fight and the hospital agreed to transfer him to the home in the village. Where he passed away this morning. Good for them!!! If they had not, he might have been maintained, suffering, on life support for a very long time. Unfortunatley not everyone has family members willing and able to do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallen52 Posted March 12, 2019 Author Share Posted March 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, Sheryl said: Good for them!!! If they had not, he might have been maintained, suffering, on life support for a very long time. Unfortunatley not everyone has family members willing and able to do this. ##Foot note to this saga.## The whole end event was posted on Facebook by one of the ambulance personnel who brought him home to rest. One of the daughters went absolutely crazy about this. Contacting me and asking if I was aware of this? (And yes, i already had the link.) Pictures of his passing at home. Medically pronounced. Being laid out. Paramedics group shot. Police doing the paperwork and fingerprinting him. All i could say to her was, "Sharon, this is Thailand". "Add it to your experiences and memories of your father". They already have the contacts for Australia embassy and the exit papers, plus the airline requirements for remains transport. At least they get to see the life he enjoyed here. The home he enjoyed making. Plus possibly pick up some memories from the home, before leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallen52 Posted March 14, 2019 Author Share Posted March 14, 2019 On 3/12/2019 at 7:59 PM, dallen52 said: ##Foot note to this saga.## The whole end event was posted on Facebook by one of the ambulance personnel who brought him home to rest. One of the daughters went absolutely crazy about this. Contacting me and asking if I was aware of this? (And yes, i already had the link.) Pictures of his passing at home. Medically pronounced. Being laid out. Paramedics group shot. Police doing the paperwork and fingerprinting him. All i could say to her was, "Sharon, this is Thailand". "Add it to your experiences and memories of your father". They already have the contacts for Australia embassy and the exit papers, plus the airline requirements for remains transport. At least they get to see the life he enjoyed here. The home he enjoyed making. Plus possibly pick up some memories from the home, before leaving. This is better than Coronation street. My last words hopefully. One of the daughters called me last night. When Arthur was brought home, in the ambulance and still hitched up to a resuscitation machine, it was left to the daughter to remove the breathing tube. And then slowly watch as Arthur died. The medical staff would not do it. This is what she originally was upset about and the paramedics putting the pictures on Facebook. Yesterday was the cremation and again about 20 snaps were placed on Facebook. The whole thing. Its just tasteless media. Needless to say, they were removed after a few hours. Sharon said, the memories will haunt her for a long time to come. They fly home Sunday ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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