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18 hours ago, Sumarianson said:

I would suggest to anyone reading your troll post that they inform themselves and check out the Burzyndki movie and Cancer the forbidden cures. I have had much personal experience in this matter.

My eldest sister now in her late seventies and an avid alternative therapist was diagnosed 25 years ago with breast cancer and told that if she did not have immediate Chemo and Radiation that she would be dead within 3 months. 

She is still alive some 25 years on.

My sister in law who tried to convince her to have a mastectomy some 24 years ago as she had breast cancer and had a double mastectomy and saif to my sister she felt great. She died two years later as a young and extremely beautiful woman in her early 40's. 

My middle sister also with breast cancer underwent chemo last year and a single mastectomy at 65, we shall see how it goes. My best friends wife also has cancer of the womb and throat. She has gone through masses of chemo and radiation over the last 2 years and is expected to die soon.

Dr. Burzynski is the only documented practicioner who has cured brain cancer or glaucoma in adults and children. This after chemo and radiation had failed. ( they will only let him attempt to cure paitents who have been through the toxic chemo and radiation therapies) He is no quak and how dare you say so. His therapy works and big pharma through the AMA have tried many times in court case after court case unsuccessfully to put him out of business. I will allow people on here to determine whom they trust, big pharma and big corporations or a simple doctor trying to cure people of a terrible disease. As for Reene Caisse when she has her 90 birthday bus loads of oeople cured by her came to see her and thank her. That despite her being shut fown many years earlier by big pharma. There have been as many inventors killed for producing free energy devices. Anything that comes between the big corporations and their money. But now people know this, the world has changed and people are awake. You and your likes have no more power here, and you know it.

 

"There have been as many inventors killed for producing free energy devices."

No there haven't, you just read that there have been on the internet and automatically believed it, its called being gullible and is not something to be proud of, a simple example for you, how does it make Trump look?  You're no better.

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12 hours ago, Benroon said:

Its 12 weeks ! My own GP told me that in the last year.

 

Sadly that link doesn't open for me however the preceding comment is nonsense. You will PAY for NHS treatment if you have been a non resident UNLESS you can PROVE you are as of that moment going to be resident in the UK. You selectively cut that bit off of your final comment. How you go about that I don't know and perhaps doesn't sound so forboding but you do have to go through those hoops.

 

The government even set up a chasing debtors department to collect the funds from health tourists (which I think was then quietly disbanded as everyone from Nigeria just told them to <deleted> off)

 

It would be great if you were right - but you're not (strictly).

Regarding entitlement to NHS:  I'm sure it's right. Sorry the link didn't work.  The key phrase is the 'Shah ruling' which established that anyone returning to UK to live is entitled from day one. I'm not saying there won't be hoops to jump through in some cases.  Ultimately, though the NHS won't have a leg to stand on.

 

Here it is the PDF file again: https://www.ageuk.org.uk/globalassets/age-uk/documents/factsheets/fs25_returning_from_abroad_fcs.pdf

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12 hours ago, SamuiGeezer said:

Correct, if you go back you need to be in the UK for 3 months before trying to get treatment.

That's social services I think.  NHS entitlement is free from day one.   

 

NHS entitlement is residency based. A simple declaration that you intend to resume residence is enough- this was established under the Shah ruling.  Of course questions will be asked, but it stands to reason that if you are still there 3 months later then the answer is obvious.  

 

If on the other hand, you are in fact not staying, and someone has reported you then that may be a different story.

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57 minutes ago, mommysboy said:

Regarding entitlement to NHS:  I'm sure it's right. Sorry the link didn't work.  The key phrase is the 'Shah ruling' which established that anyone returning to UK to live is entitled from day one. I'm not saying there won't be hoops to jump through in some cases.  Ultimately, though the NHS won't have a leg to stand on.

 

Here it is the PDF file again: https://www.ageuk.org.uk/globalassets/age-uk/documents/factsheets/fs25_returning_from_abroad_fcs.pdf

 

The Shah case states that there must be, "a sufficient degree of continuity", and the factsheet you posted states, "If you are a British citizen who resides solely overseas and are visiting the UK, you may be charged for non-emergency hospital treatment", the key would be in providing evidence that you are returning with intent to remain rather than as a short term visit, which will come down to property.

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5 minutes ago, Kieran00001 said:

 

The Shah case states that there must be, "a sufficient degree of continuity", and the factsheet you posted states, "If you are a British citizen who resides solely overseas and are visiting the UK, you may be charged for non-emergency hospital treatment", the key would be in providing evidence that you are returning with intent to remain rather than as a short term visit, which will come down to property.

Nothing to do with property.  The circumstances of coming home to live are self evident. Put it this way, who has been refused treatment? Anyway, treatment would not be refused I think. What could happen is that one might be billed, but this would undoubtedly be cancelled later. when it proves that you are there permanently.  Bottom line is a resident is entitled to NHS care under the 'Shah ruling'.  

 

There is a lot of misinformation on the net, and people get confused between doctor's surgery rules, NHS entitlement, and eligibility for social services.

 

I guess the uncomfortable truth is that many of us should really return to the UK as soon as possible, before something happens.  It's something I am reluctantly considering.

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16 hours ago, NightSky said:

so when sick we can all fly to Norway for a treatment holiday then?

Well you need to be really sick to get any help without paying for it. But lets say you are a tourist in Norway , with a foreign passport , you will still qualify for emergency treatment in a hospital.  

  

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On 3/11/2019 at 4:05 PM, connda said:

Personally I believe the whole Thai thing of embracing 'medical marijuana' is all about allowing a certain sub-set of wealthy Thais to make a killing on monopolized marijuana and cannabinoid products. 

this is certainly the case in most places it has been legalized either recreationally or medically.

however that does not preclude actual benefits to individuals who may need treatment.

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12 minutes ago, mommysboy said:

It's an 

Nothing to do with property.  The circumstances of coming home to live are self evident. Put it this way, who has been refused treatment? Anyway, treatment would not be refused I think. What could happen is that one might be billed, but this would undoubtedly be cancelled later. when it proves that you are there permanently.  Bottom line is a resident is entitled to NHS care under the 'Shah ruling'.  

 

There is a lot of misinformation on the net, and people get confused between doctor's surgery rules, NHS entitlement, and eligibility for social services.

 

I guess the uncomfortable truth is that many of us should really return to the UK as soon as possible, before something happens.  It's something I am reluctantly considering.

 

It will very much come down to property as unless you own one or rent one you will not have a way to evidence that your intention is to remain the UK rather than just visit to ponce off the NHS.although the Shah case

 

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5 hours ago, Kenchamp said:

I have noticed that comments on his you tube channel that are in any way negative toward him or contradict what he says in his videos are deleted pretty sharpish.

Definitely his way or the highway, fan boys only as with many such vloggers here. Anyone disagreeing with him and his ilk are automatically labelled 'haters and trolls'.

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3 minutes ago, Kieran00001 said:

 

It will very much come down to property as unless you own one or rent one you will not have a way to evidence that your intention is to remain the UK rather than just visit to ponce off the NHS.although the Shah case

 

No that's incorrect- it's not about having a property or not.  It's about intention to stay.  Nor is it about being homeless for that matter.

 

But.....all this is now, or what has been.  Here's shocking news about the future, because it looks like some very bad news is on the way: they'll be dying in the streets.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-190218/Ex-pat-pensioners-denied-NHS-treatment.html

 

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Does anyone know roughly how much a course of chemo would have cost Kev in a government hospital?  Just a ball park figure.

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56 minutes ago, mommysboy said:

No that's incorrect- it's not about having a property or not.  It's about intention to stay.  Nor is it about being homeless for that matter.

 

But.....all this is now, or what has been.  Here's shocking news about the future, because it looks like some very bad news is on the way: they'll be dying in the streets.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-190218/Ex-pat-pensioners-denied-NHS-treatment.html

 

 

You realize your "news" is actually from 2008?

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33 minutes ago, mommysboy said:

Does anyone know roughly how much a course of chemo would have cost Kev in a government hospital?  Just a ball park figure.

 

Its not possible to approximate as all patients are individual and require greatly varying amounts of treatment and after care.

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I would suggest to anyone reading your troll post that they inform themselves and check out the Burzyndki movie and Cancer the forbidden cures. I have had much personal experience in this matter.
My eldest sister now in her late seventies and an avid alternative therapist was diagnosed 25 years ago with breast cancer and told that if she did not have immediate Chemo and Radiation that she would be dead within 3 months. 
She is still alive some 25 years on.
My sister in law who tried to convince her to have a mastectomy some 24 years ago as she had breast cancer and had a double mastectomy and saif to my sister she felt great. She died two years later as a young and extremely beautiful woman in her early 40's. 
My middle sister also with breast cancer underwent chemo last year and a single mastectomy at 65, we shall see how it goes. My best friends wife also has cancer of the womb and throat. She has gone through masses of chemo and radiation over the last 2 years and is expected to die soon.
Dr. Burzynski is the only documented practicioner who has cured brain cancer or glaucoma in adults and children. This after chemo and radiation had failed. ( they will only let him attempt to cure paitents who have been through the toxic chemo and radiation therapies) He is no quak and how dare you say so. His therapy works and big pharma through the AMA have tried many times in court case after court case unsuccessfully to put him out of business. I will allow people on here to determine whom they trust, big pharma and big corporations or a simple doctor trying to cure people of a terrible disease. As for Reene Caisse when she has her 90 birthday bus loads of oeople cured by her came to see her and thank her. That despite her being shut fown many years earlier by big pharma. There have been as many inventors killed for producing free energy devices. Anything that comes between the big corporations and their money. But now people know this, the world has changed and people are awake. You and your likes have no more power here, and you know it.
Another, ignorant, conspiracy loony!

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