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New Employment Criteria for Foreign Teachers at Government Schools

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The announcement from OBEC to a meeting of 78 school directors in the EEC was made a few weeks ago. The new requirements will apply to all government schools starting from May 2019. It's OBEC's intention to professionalize the teaching profession and bring Thai schools up to international standards. The major point for Government schools is that they must adopt one of a range of mainly-UK-based curriculum and assessment methods.

 

Foreign teachers will now need a recognized university degree + vocational teacher training + evidence of their language proficiency if they are non-native speakers.

 

I know 2 people associated with the formulation of the new requirements. I received my information from them.

 

'standard TEFL'

4-week onsite program with observed teaching practices. There will need to be evidence of the legal status of the program. IE run through a company, run from a licensed school or training organization, taxation records etc. They won't accept 'online' TEFLs.

 

'TKT'

The Teacher Knowledge Test from Cambridge English.

 

'General Program'

Teachers working at any of the general English programs at 30,000 government schools in Thailand.

 

'Intensive English Program' (formerly English Programs)

440 of the 30,000 schools have IEPs.

 

'International Program'

19 of the 30,000 schools have IPs.

 

The requirements take effect at all government schools from May 2019. I was told that teachers who don't meet the new requirements by May will lose their jobs. This seems extreme, so I'm skeptical. I think there will be a compromise on the start date.

 

The MoE has signed a MoU with the Philippines government to import 2,500 Filipino licensed teachers on enhanced employment contracts at Thai government schools by the start of the new school year. I believe they will be mainly teaching on IEPs and IPs.

 

Caveat:

This is Thailand and there have been many official announcements relating to educational reforms before. Few are ever implemented, but it seems from my sources that the Minister of Education is serious about implementing these new changes.

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Pretty ambitious goals.  Are they also going to reduce the average class sizes from 40 - 50 students or do they expect conversational English classes to be effective when the average students will get, at most, a few minutes of one-on-one speaking practice with their teacher each week?

 

B1 level for regular class M6 graduates is equal to an Intermediate English classification:

 

Can understand the main points of clear standard input on familiar matters regularly encountered in work, school, leisure, etc. Can deal with most situations likely to arise whilst travelling in an area where the language is spoken. Can produce simple connected text on topics which are familiar or of personal interest. Can describe experiences and events, dreams, hopes & ambitions and briefly give reasons and explanations for opinions and plans.

 

It would be nice to see them achieve this goal, but I really think that they are not being realistic. 

 

Also, how do these teacher qualifications fit in with the TCT licensing requirements?  Does it replace them?  Or will teachers with a degree and a TEFL get an infinite number of waivers?  Or did the MOE forget to talk to the TCT about this entirely?

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28 minutes ago, otherstuff1957 said:

.... <snip>

 

Also, how do these teacher qualifications fit in with the TCT licensing requirements?  Does it replace them?  Or will teachers with a degree and a TEFL get an infinite number of waivers?  Or did the MOE forget to talk to the TCT about this entirely?

Good question. I don't know. However, I do know that school directors, the MoE and teachers have been frustrated by the TCT for many years. The TCT was set up in the 1990s to be independent of government influence; hence, even the Minister of Education cannot directly control them. In my opinion, I think the TCT may be removed from the foreign teacher process.

 

I'm not sure who will check qualifications and at what point in the hiring, non B visa application, visa extension and work permit process.

 

I did hear that the MoE wants to eliminate 'waivers'.

 

 

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Will previous qualifications be accepted? I have a Grad Dip TESOL from London. Will that be OK or would I have to take a MoE registered one?

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Good ideas if true, although surely something like this takes time to implement and this will never happen by May. 

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Excellent. Very similar to thoughts banging around in my head. Standardize IP, EP and an international program (not Cambridge ICGSE imo is too difficult for most). No A levels. Avoid copying the Anglo system. Do it the Thai way.

 

I'm very worried about the Filipinos. I think many degrees will be manufactured, there will be corruption. Further, I find the accent horrendous and the pronunciation atrocious. Finally, I've had poor work experiences with them. I won't list them out but both personally and what I've known to go on in the classroom. I think on the Thai side they might be exploited as well.

 

Very worried about shonky TEFL diploma meaning something. Only 2-3 providers any real legitimacy in Thailand. After decades no clear standout educator.

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I can't see any mention of a B.Ed that the TCT required for licensing. Furthermore, where are they going to find NES with the extra qualifications for less that $1000 a month? The Pearson and the TKT courses are not cheap, either.

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20 hours ago, stubuzz said:

I can't see any mention of a B.Ed that the TCT required for licensing. Furthermore, where are they going to find NES with the extra qualifications for less that $1000 a month? The Pearson and the TKT courses are not cheap, either.

Everyone makes more than 1k a month. Even the worst agencies in BKK will pay 35-36k. But, to your point. It's absolutely not worth paying for additional education, especially a worthless TEFL.

 

Graduating with post grad all public schools won't pay a satang more. Better educated, debt, experience. Nope. Don't care. You can bet they will look to the teachers to pick this up, I'm sure they'll even be some way to manage a bit of graft.

 

Even making 60-70k. What do you need with the course? You've broken thru and achieved competence on your own accord.

 

Finally, no way I can see TCT lifting requirement of post grad for licencing.

 

We shall see.

 

 

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"Foreign teachers will now need a recognized university degree + vocational teacher training + evidence of their language proficiency..."

Be nice if same standard applied to Thai teachers...

Regarding Filipinos "I find the accent horrendous and the pronunciation atrocious." I would assume accent influences pronunciation. Personally, I like their accents, somewhat musical and have no problem understanding them. Perhaps because I am a Yank and they used to be one of our colonies, oops, protectorates?

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On 3/12/2019 at 12:58 PM, Loaded said:

Good question. I don't know. However, I do know that school directors, the MoE and teachers have been frustrated by the TCT for many years. The TCT was set up in the 1990s to be independent of government influence; hence, even the Minister of Education cannot directly control them. In my opinion, I think the TCT may be removed from the foreign teacher process.

 

I'm not sure who will check qualifications and at what point in the hiring, non B visa application, visa extension and work permit process.

 

I did hear that the MoE wants to eliminate 'waivers'.

 

 

All the Farang teachers I know have no formal quallies at all and have been working in local government schools in Isaan for years.

There has never been any hint of them being stopped by Immigration let alone any checks being carried out.

They are taken on by individual negotiation between themselves and the local school director who saves money not paying fees to agencies. 

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The country has no drinking water and worst pollution on the planet.

 

Talk is cheap.

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4 hours ago, Emdog said:

"Foreign teachers will now need a recognized university degree + vocational teacher training + evidence of their language proficiency..."

Be nice if same standard applied to Thai teachers...

Regarding Filipinos "I find the accent horrendous and the pronunciation atrocious." I would assume accent influences pronunciation. Personally, I like their accents, somewhat musical and have no problem understanding them. Perhaps because I am a Yank and they used to be one of our colonies, oops, protectorates?

I am not involved in teaching,but the Filipinos I have met over the years including here seem to speak excellent English, whatever their pronunciation.

They couldn’t do any worse than a couple of Thai teachers I have come across who could barely speak English but are teaching English grammar in Thai.

I am still trying to get my head around that method.

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6 minutes ago, Pravda said:

The country has no drinking water and worst pollution on the planet.

 

Talk is cheap.

Not sure where you live, but here in the North where I live we have great drinking water straight out of the ground and crystal clear.

Its far better than the water from the tap in Sydney for which we paid big money then had to filter to remove the chlorine to make it drinkable.

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