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BANGKOK 23 May 2019 16:42
nahkit

Asked to show bank book again

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But, there are at least two post on here, and no, I didn't bookmark them, where one individual was told by their particular immigrations office to make sure they do not let their balance fall below the 400K mark until their extension is approved and asked them to bring back their bank book to prove as much.  Additionally, the second poster's office told the individual not to touch the money for an additional 30 days (up to 60 days now) because a decision had not been made on his extension yet. So, as in the original post in this thread, both of these cases involved extensions based on marriage...  

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9 hours ago, nahkit said:

I had gone below 400k for a period of 10 days on my main account

Looks like one more new local rule. Why not 20, 30 or 90 days? I guess it is bad work of the imm office, because they must to warn about local thought up rules.

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An IO gave me a heads up last week that a new Kor Ror 2 is required now for each application.

He also advised you should supply copies of every page of your passport with a stamp or Visa and a few forms required signing stating you understood the rules and penalties.

He advised not touching any funds until the extension was granted.

 

Earlier this week a friend who's renewal date was 25/4, submitted it on 12/3, 45 days in advance, but was given an under consideration stamp until 25/5 …… 30 days after the due date, so effectively 75 days in total.

A 90 day report due on 28/3 was cancelled and told it will be reset on 25/5.

 

The rule for retirement state '800,000 at least 2 months prior to filing date (and at least 3 months after).

The rule for marriage state 'must have no less than 400,000 baht in a bank account in Thailand for the past 2 months'.

No such mention of prior to filing date for marriage.

Clearly for marriage it's 2 months prior to the extension being granted and it is we who have misunderstood.

Bearing all of the above in mind, I'd advise applying about a week before the due date.

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1 hour ago, JackThompson said:

In that case, I'm sure the IOs will let us apply with just 1 month of seasoning, since they will take another month?  Or maybe zero seasoning if they want to take 2 months to "consider" about it?  Somehow, I doubt it.

I also doubt it, but it is what it is.

Change to income method instead.

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15 hours ago, mosan said:

The only extensions that are subject to the 30 day under consideration are extensions based on marriage...and occasionally one or two for retirees, but those were the exception not the rule.

That is not correct, 30 days under consideration period can be given for extensions based on work, based on having a Thai child etc.

For extensions where the applicant is using cash deposited in an account, such as based on marriage or Thai child, it has always been the rule that the 400k balance remains at that level for the period of consideration, it is just that this is normally not enforced / checked.

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The only extensions that are subject to the 30 day under consideration are extensions based on marriage...and occasionally one or two for retirees, but those were the exception not the rule.  Consequently, since about 5 months ago, there have been several reports about checks during the under consideration period.  All is not lost...you can always get another Non-Imm O and re-apply if necessary. 

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Thank you for making my point for me.  Another individual on here said I was making it up that 30 day under considerations did not require the 400K to be maintained during the period.  I only omitted the fact that there were other possibilities...

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2 minutes ago, mosan said:

The only extensions that are subject to the 30 day under consideration are extensions based on marriage...and occasionally one or two for retirees, but those were the exception not the rule.  Consequently, since about 5 months ago, there have been several reports about checks during the under consideration period.  All is not lost...you can always get another Non-Imm O and re-apply if necessary. 

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1053726-change-the-reason-for-extension-of-stay-from-work-to-dependent/page/3/?tab=comments#comment-13333652

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15 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Correct. The only thing that is unchanged is that different Immigration offices will apply their own rules.

Very much so. Feedback I got yesterday was that Chiangrai required a person on retirement ext (based on money in the bank), who attended the office to make a 90 day report, was also required to show an updated bank book at the same time. The extension is already 8 months old, not due again until July and should not be under the new March 1st 2019 conditions. So retroactive implementation of checking money in the bank and associating it with 90 day address reporting. 

People are apparently choosing to go to Maesai instead. 

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6 hours ago, JackThompson said:

They simply have no concept of shame. 

And still they seems, so far, to "adore" we, the ones who still can obtain a L. o. I.. 

 

No need to have money on a bank, no need to do monthly transfers, no agents involved. 

 

Why? 

 

Like others here, I have my own conspiracy theory

I. Officers like everything which is easy and smooth;

A L. o. I. is. 

They want to make it difficult to the ones who don't have it anymore, maybe with the hope their embassy will change their mind, and thus make their life again enjoyable. 

Stupid?

Maybe, every conspiracy theory is in that case. 

Or than we will have one who will pretend that his theory is the only right one. 

 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Very much so. Feedback I got yesterday was that Chiangrai required a person on retirement ext (based on money in the bank), who attended the office to make a 90 day report, was also required to show an updated bank book at the same time. The extension is already 8 months old, not due again until July and should not be under the new March 1st 2019 conditions. So retroactive implementation of checking money in the bank and associating it with 90 day address reporting. 

People are apparently choosing to go to Maesai instead. 

Can you clarify what feedback means ? 1st person, the guy it happend to, 3rd person, someone told me, a guy in a bar told me. Did he end up showing or not showing the bank book, they refused 90 day until he showed bank balance, did he have the required balance, will his next extension be refused.

Unless its a first person account and the outcome is known, it just raises more question than it answers.

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1 minute ago, Peterw42 said:

Unless its a first person account and the outcome is known, it just raises more question than it answers.

Direct communication (one of those phone gadgets), with the person it happened to. Bankbook produced, the money is left in the account, so no issues. 

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Hi all,

I'm a Thai and just done helping my husband filing his Non-O (Marriage) Visa for the first time. I hope the information I got from my local IO might help. BTW, please excuse my English. 

If you are applying with the 400k option, on the official document 'checklist', it is stated that you are required to show that you have no less than 400k deposited for 'the whole 3 months until the date of the application', and a letter from the bank to guarantee that you 'currently' have no less than 400k deposited in your account. 

The IO told me that the amount of money in the account must not go below 400k anytime during those 3-month period. 

However, there's a remark says 'only for the first-time applicant, the applicant must show that he has 400k deposited in his account for over 2 months.' 

Though the rules seem to be applied differently from one immigration office to another, I recommend your wife to contact your local office early in person to check. It will save you so much time. 

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7 minutes ago, luckyluke said:

And still they seems, so far, to "adore" we, the ones who still can obtain a L. o. I.. 

 

No need to have money on a bank, no need to do monthly transfers, no agents involved. 

 

Why? 

 

Like others here, I have my own conspiracy theory

I. Officers like everything which is easy and smooth;

A L. o. I. is. 

They want to make it difficult to the ones who don't have it anymore, maybe with the hope their embassy will change their mind, and thus make their life again enjoyable. 

Stupid?

Maybe, every conspiracy theory is in that case. 

Or than we will have one who will pretend that his theory is the only right one.

It is not only those w/o embassy letters who are given the runaround.  Some offices also question those with an embassy letter for "proof of income origin" docs (pension-docs, etc).   Chiang Mai is well known for doing this. 


But, my boonies-Issan office was also unsatisfied (early/mid 2018 - before the recent changes) with an embassy-letter plus a bank-book showing the money was being "foreign-transferred" to Thailand.  They don't want to bother processing a marriage-extension (at retail-price, anyway - I did not attempt a bribe) - so "show a foreign pension statement or leave your wife," is the rule, there.  Fortunately, a Non-O-ME Visa is still an option.

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