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4 minutes ago, iminya said:

Hi all,

I'm a Thai and just done helping my husband filing his Non-O (Marriage) Visa for the first time. I hope the information I got from my local IO might help. BTW, please excuse my English. 

If you are applying with the 400k option, on the official document 'checklist', it is stated that you are required to show that you have no less than 400k deposited for 'the whole 3 months until the date of the application', and a letter from the bank to guarantee that you 'currently' have no less than 400k deposited in your account. 

The IO told me that the amount of money in the account must not go below 400k anytime during those 3-month period. 

However, there's a remark says 'only for the first-time applicant, the applicant must show that he has 400k deposited in his account for over 2 months.' 

Though the rules seem to be applied differently from one immigration office to another, I recommend your wife to contact your local office early in person to check. It will save you so much time. 

For marriage, the official rules are the money must not fall below 400K for just two months before the application - not only the first year, but also every extension after. 

 

The "3 months for subsequent extensions" rule was the old "retirement-based extension" rule for 800K.


But, for marriage-based extensions, some offices are now insisting the money must not be touched during the "under consideration" period (which breaks the rules, by adding another month or two after applying).


A very few other offices have been reported to demand the money be untouched for 3 months before filing the application (which also breaks the rules).

 

All information here is based on reports of what is being done at various offices - all of which seem to be free to make up their own rules.  Hopefully, the office where your husband will apply, they follow the official rules.

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18 hours ago, 55Jay said:

The natives are restless about our financials and visa agents. 

Been going on for months. 

Plastered all over the internet/media. 

:blink:

 

Visa agents are fine. It’s business as usual already. 

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24 minutes ago, iminya said:

Hi all,

I'm a Thai and just done helping my husband filing his Non-O (Marriage) Visa for the first time. I hope the information I got from my local IO might help. BTW, please excuse my English. 

If you are applying with the 400k option, on the official document 'checklist', it is stated that you are required to show that you have no less than 400k deposited for 'the whole 3 months until the date of the application', and a letter from the bank to guarantee that you 'currently' have no less than 400k deposited in your account. 

The IO told me that the amount of money in the account must not go below 400k anytime during those 3-month period. 

However, there's a remark says 'only for the first-time applicant, the applicant must show that he has 400k deposited in his account for over 2 months.' 

Though the rules seem to be applied differently from one immigration office to another, I recommend your wife to contact your local office early in person to check. It will save you so much time. 

Hi Iminya and welcome to the forum.

Which office did you apply at?

 

The official orders state 2 months for marriage, not 3.

Quote Immigration Bureau Order 327/2557. Section 2.18.

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(6) In the case of marriage to a Thai woman, the alien husband must earn an average annual
income of no less than Baht 40,000 per month or must have no less than Baht 400,000 in a
bank account in Thailand for the past two months to cover expenses for one year.

Immigration Bureau Order 327-2557 (2014) - Thai text..pdf

 

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11 minutes ago, JackThompson said:

For marriage, the official rules are the money must not fall below 400K for just two months before the application - not only the first year, but also every extension after. 

 

The "3 months for subsequent extensions" rule was the old "retirement-based extension" rule for 800K.


But, for marriage-based extensions, some offices are now insisting the money must not be touched during the "under consideration" period (which breaks the rules, by adding another month or two after applying).


A very few other offices have been reported to demand the money be untouched for 3 months before filing the application (which also breaks the rules).

 

All information here is based on reports of what is being done at various offices - all of which seem to be free to make up their own rules.  Hopefully, the office where your husband will apply, they follow the official rules.


You are right about the officers making up their own rules hence I recommend those applying/extending with their bank account option to check with their local office to ask what exactly they need you to have for your visa extension.

We ended up applying with his monthly income as the consideration so my information on this for the 400k rule is just what written on the official document and also what I asked my local office about in case we would be extending his visa with his savings as the consideration next time. 

Honestly, I never though getting married and living together with my husband would be this much of a hassle for us..

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23 minutes ago, JackThompson said:

For marriage, the official rules are the money must not fall below 400K for just two months before the application - not only the first year, but also every extension after. 

It does not state 2 months before the application for marriage.

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36 minutes ago, iminya said:

We applied at Samut Sakhon office.
When I went in to ask for what required, one of the officers gave me a document checklist. I forgot there was an English version on the back page so now I checked but the information turns out to be different from Thai to English.

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My wife (Thai) also had a look at this and agrees that there is a requirement for 3 months and 2 months in the Thai document but only 2 months is required in the translation. She puts this down to making an opportunity for corruption and says you should regard the 3 months matured funds as being required. This is the advice given on all searches I have done to establish the list of documents required.

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25 minutes ago, Muhendis said:

My wife (Thai) also had a look at this and agrees that there is a requirement for 3 months and 2 months in the Thai document but only 2 months is required in the translation. She puts this down to making an opportunity for corruption and says you should regard the 3 months matured funds as being required. This is the advice given on all searches I have done to establish the list of documents required.

According to the official Immigration order it states 2 months in Thai.

Some IO's are writing their own material and quoting 3 months.

 

According to my wife the official order clearly states 2 months before application, but the English translation omits the 'before application' part. It appears the English translations are not perfect.

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22 hours ago, nahkit said:

esterday, the 13th, I got another phone call from them asking me how much I now had in my bank account and saying they want to see my bank book again, updated on the day and with another letter from the bank.

Virtually  the same thing happened to me 2 days ago for the same extension as you. The IOs said the request came from above and didn’t understand the reasoning. Specifically they needed copies of an updated bank book showing a deposit of ‘200 to 300 bahts’ that day, not a withdrawal. Luckily the amount in my account was still fine, and I stuck in 1000baht, got the copies and delIvered them to the IO, who seemed apologetic and happy. Still waiting for final approval. 

This was in Mukdahan.

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19 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Correct. The only thing that is unchanged is that different Immigration offices will apply their own rules. For example, Jomtien wants the Ret Ext applicant to come back after 90-days with their bankbook and a letter so they can check that their 800 k hasn't been touched. Chaeng Wattana and Udon Thani have not asked for this (so far). AFAIK, the extra oversight hasn't been requested at these office for a Mar Ext. Maybe it has but the victim isn't a TV member (yet).

 

The OP's signature indicates that he is probably dealing with Khon Kaen but if he could either confirm this or be more specific, it may be of value to someone filing the same sort of extension at the same office.

 

YMMV

Yes, I'm dealing with the Khon Kaen office. Not sure what you want me to be more specific about?

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23 hours ago, nahkit said:

Thanks

Or a single entry category o none immigrant 90 day  stay visa.

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7 minutes ago, Jim7777 said:

The monthly income option is so much easier.  

A matter of personal opinion and financial restrictions.

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9 minutes ago, Jim7777 said:

The monthly income option is so much easier.  

Seems more difficult to me.  My Social Security payment stopped for two months a few years ago because of a clerical error now what would I do in that situation?  Get kicked out of the country? 

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