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34 minutes ago, Tanoshi said:

Try getting a Visa for a Thai to live in the UK, Australia, or the US, then you'll have something tangible to complain about.

"To live in" = leads directly to Permanent Residence with unlimited work-permission.  Plus, a much higher income-potential than is possible for most Thais in their own country. 

 

There is no comparison.  Of course that process is more difficult than a Thai "no work, no PR even after 20-years plus," annual-extension here.

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7 minutes ago, Tanoshi said:

Nothings guaranteed in life, not even life itself.

 

I hear your concerns and you raise some good points and questions, but if you can predict the future of what may or may not happen, your wasting your talents.

 

Try getting a Visa for a Thai to live in the UK, Australia, or the US, then you'll have something tangible to complain about.

Thai Immigration rules and policies are a cinch compared to western Countries.

You make a good point.

  While I am more than irritated at the  Us Embassy for stopping something so simple to fix- I am only be concerned up to my next extension . 

I just can't worry about all the things that can happen.  I have had  dealings with Thai Immigration for almost 50 years and  there are times when they get hard and times when they get easy.  There has always been  differences in interpretations by the Offices regarding the law.

 

Immigration Commissioners come and go and so do Governments- and I fully expect that can happen again.

 

It is possible  and probable that Immigration will realize that keeping 800K tied up for almost a year is impractical.  They may even realize that transferring 65K each month doesn't prove income and make changes.   Some of the 4 Embassies that stopped the letters may bring them back in another form.  It is possible  Thai Immigration may stop all letters but I doubt it since that makes their job easier. And on and on.

 

The question I always ask myself is do the advantages in staying in Thailand outweigh the negatives and even with the Immigration issues- there are more advantages if you  can adjust to the Thai way of doing business and living.

 

Eventually the Immigration Department will figure out what they want  and it will become easier to deal with. Through this forum- reports will come in and we will know which offices request what information

 

Some people will like the money in the bank system because they find it easier.  Others like myself- are stubborn- refuse to tie up  the money  and generally do not like Thai banks for my own personal reasons.

 

I am also not crazy about transferring money each month when I can withdraw 65K  per month from my US Bank and prove it- easily but  I have to go with the flow or  go back to the US and get an O-A Visa or someplace and get  an Non O multiple O or buy an Elite Visa.

 

The bottom line is at least most of us have options and the ability to use those options if need be. Some of the options are better than others but at least they are doable.

 

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31 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

It doesn't only impact the skint. If you actually believe that, you simply haven't been paying attention. 

 

I'll ignore your personal comments as I've explained that interest (and reasons for my hesitations) multiple times already. Hecklers saying just leave already mean nothing to my decision process. I think everyone needs to take care of their own personal interests to the best of their ability, and that may mean leaving, that may mean staying, but I do think everyone should pay attention to the subtext of these recent major changes for Thai immigration's approach to foreigners living here in general (currently impacted or not). 

No need to debate anyone can look.  It's all here in black on white.  I might mention I was told the same thing in 1968 and again in 1975.  And they did kick us out in 1975.  Even after we spent all that money.  So if they do kick me out it wouldn't be the first time. 

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19 hours ago, ParadiseLost said:

Isn't there a govt saving bond here which pays out regular prizes?

 

Better than money sitting in a BB savings account...

I am in it but you still have to show it in your bank account, you actually buy tickets in it, it is not any type of bank account etc,  I was actually buying my tickets when my immigration officer came into the bank and we talked about it, she told me to just have 400.000 in my bank account for 2 months prior to my extension so all I have to do is take it out and put it into my account then return it once it is done then repeat ech year

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2 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

No you will not be on an a overstay. The under consideration stamp allows you to stay until your extension is approved. The report back date is just that it does not mean the under consideration period has ended.

Thanks for putting my mind at ease.

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21 hours ago, nahkit said:

So today was the final day to get my extension approved (or should have been).

 

I went into the immigration office this afternoon and was told that it wasn't ready and I need to come back next Wednesday.

 

So at midnight tonight, according to the letter of the law, I will be on overstay.

 

The I/O officer told me "no problem" - yes, absolutely, no problem for them, just a major one for me if I was unlucky enough to be asked for my passport any time in the next few days.

 

You really couldn't make this stuff up.

No further feedback or indication from them about the bank balance issue?

 

I hope it works out for you but if it doesn't, it'll be a shot across the bow if your extension request is rejected because you dipped below 400k during the 30 day U/C period.  Personally, the way you've described it, I don't think you fit the profile they are looking for.  But this latest crack down is their new, shiny toy, and that dynamic always gives me pause.

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On 3/15/2019 at 1:04 PM, whitefarang said:

find a lawyer ...you already have proof you are married so they should not bother you asking for more proof....how much proof more proof can they ask for. They are just probing to see how much they can bother and stress you .It should be stopped directly or they will continue giving you a hard time .

Uh how else do they check the marriage is still current and legal? If you are divorced you are unable to get the KR2. This doc has been a requirement at Samui for many years.

 

I'm not a fan of TI by any means but at least ensure you have a valid beef if you want to get on your high horse and lead a revolt 🤭

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On 3/15/2019 at 3:00 PM, Jingthing said:

It doesn't only impact the skint. If you actually believe that, you simply haven't been paying attention. 

 

I'll ignore your personal comments as I've explained that interest (and reasons for my hesitations) multiple times already. Hecklers saying just leave already mean nothing to my decision process. I think everyone needs to take care of their own personal interests to the best of their ability, and that may mean leaving, that may mean staying, but I do think everyone should pay attention to the subtext of these recent major changes for Thai immigration's approach to foreigners living here in general (currently impacted or not). 

I also like to think there is some underhanded logic behind targeting the largest groups first.

 

Once majority of these unwanted westerners are gone, there will be very few of us to round up and inter.

 

Where did I leave the tin foil - this hat is leaky!

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On 3/15/2019 at 12:21 PM, marcusarelus said:

Seems more difficult to me.  My Social Security payment stopped for two months a few years ago because of a clerical error now what would I do in that situation?  Get kicked out of the country? 

 

Or problems/hickups with private transfer services like Transferwise...

Or the government agency crediting a pension at the end of one month instead of the beginning of the next.

Or the Thai bank system not recognizing a foreign deposit as really "foreign"

etc etc etc...

 

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On 3/15/2019 at 2:25 PM, Tanoshi said:

 

He never changed the content of your post, he just emphasised a particular part he was referring to by underscoring.

I don't see that as a breach of rules.

 

 

FWIW, I've been told in the past by the mods that highlighting / bolding etc quoted portions of text (even if not making any other changes or edits) is a violation of TVF rules... Came as a considerable surprise to me, as well... But it is what it is...

 

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36 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

FWIW, I've been told in the past by the mods that highlighting / bolding etc quoted portions of text (even if not making any other changes or edits) is a violation of TVF rules... Came as a considerable surprise to me, as well... But it is what it is...

 

That is correct. You can post SNIPPETS as long as the snippets aren't intentionally created to distort the meaning of the snippet if it was in context, but changing emphasis, fonts, etc. is not allowed. 

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1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

You can post SNIPPETS

Use of capitals is considered 'shouting' and not good forum netiquette.

Oh, sorry, forgot, you like to criticise others, but object when your criticised.

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