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On 7/30/2019 at 11:27 PM, BestB said:

Testovirine by Beyer is better but for some reason no longer available in a box of 20, only single amps, 220-250 baht each 

FYI, Testosterone Enanthate 250mg/mL by RotexMedica (Germany) is pharma-grade and same quality as Beyer, and is available again in Thailand in 20 amp boxes.  Cost is 3300 baht per box.

 

Beyer apparently is indeed history.  Details are pretty sketchy but something to do with long-term issues with their production labs.  This has been going on since last October so my guess is it won't be resolved, and if you buy single amps, I'd be real concerned about authenticity and expiry dates for sure.

 

I am in Pattaya, but if you are in Chiang Mai, chances are that Peera Pharmacy will have RotexMedica.

 

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I went to Peera's yesterday and she now has only gel and pills.  She said the gel is better, although more expensive.  I bought the gel.  Androgel 50Mg, 30 sachets for 2,600 baht.  

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11 hours ago, Somnambulist said:

I went to Peera's yesterday and she now has only gel and pills.  She said the gel is better, although more expensive.  I bought the gel.  Androgel 50Mg, 30 sachets for 2,600 baht.  

Gels are a poor choice (very little efficacy compared with injection, messy to use, and you can easily contaminate others you have physical contact with like girlfriend, wife, or your kids) and pills are an even poorer choice as there is no such thing (I.e.: scam).  

 

I’m surprised she would recommend those options as she is normally very honest and helpful, and should easily be able to stock RotexMedica since the distributor is in Bangkok and is now in stock.

 

I can almost guarantee you will be disappointed with gel.   

My advice: contact the distributor of RotexMedica in Bangkok (See my picture of box for telephone number).  

 

Seriously, injectable test is entirely legal in Thailand, and if they can’t give you the name of a local pharmacy carrying it, perhaps they can ship it to you directly.

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1 hour ago, WaveHunter said:

Gels are a poor choice (very little efficacy compared with injection, messy to use, and you can easily contaminate others you have physical contact with like girlfriend, wife, or your kids) and pills are an even poorer choice as there is no such thing (I.e.: scam).  

Nope.

 

- I started with the gel and switched because my levels went too high.  Also the price.

- Just avoid contact with others until it dries completely.

- Pills are FDA approved but with cautions about side effects. 

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On ‎4‎/‎25‎/‎2019 at 3:28 PM, MickeyDelux said:

exercise everyday, eat a healthy whole food diet, regularly practice fasting, don't drink alcohol, don't smoke cigarettes, don't use non-prescription drugs, don't watch porn/masturbate. If you're overweight, lose it. Do this and your libido will improve immensely, in as little as 30 days, and you'll save money. Keep doing it and you'll surprise yourself and your partner(s) with your vitality. 

of course I do not want to do that. 🙂

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I went to Peera's the other day and asked her to order the RotexMedica product but she said she had already tried to reach them on the phone but no one would answer. 

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On 4/25/2019 at 3:28 PM, MickeyDelux said:

exercise everyday, eat a healthy whole food diet, regularly practice fasting, don't drink alcohol, don't smoke cigarettes, don't use non-prescription drugs, don't watch porn/masturbate. If you're overweight, lose it. Do this and your libido will improve immensely, in as little as 30 days, and you'll save money. Keep doing it and you'll surprise yourself and your partner(s) with your vitality. 

 

You did leave out celibacy and medically induced coma ...

 

But, I do see wisdom in the gist: often relatively simple health practices (exercise, diet, sleep) can have a big payoff.

 

Which would you rather "pay for:" a half-hour of walking a day, or an angiogram, stent, etc. ? 

 

I question if a natural, age-related, decline in testosterone is inherently a "medical" problem; is it just another symptom of a medical culture focused on pathology, and the over-objectification of the "perfect" body in the mirror of eternal youth that saturates media ?

 

Realistically, however, even people with the healthiest lifestyles may be vulnerable to whatever serious diseases because of inherited genetic weakness.

 

Happy thought of the day: Age will bring us down, and Death will finish us off, sooner, or later: what behavioral price are you willing to pay for 'later" ?

 

If only I could live by what I know !

 

~o:37;

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On 4/24/2019 at 6:36 PM, sidjameson said:

Orang 37, thanks for that info.

Im 51 and defintely feel a malaise as you put it. Much lower libido and wondering what can be done about it.

Ridiculous question to ask i know, but do you think that dr could help?

google and read some of the reputable sites about the pros and cons of t supplements, and the various options available--and the necessary tests to determine your accurate t levels--this is not something to self prescribe without medical advice and monitoring.

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On 8/2/2019 at 11:20 AM, WaveHunter said:

 

FYI, Testosterone Enanthate 250mg/mL by RotexMedica (Germany) is pharma-grade

 

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Mind telling us what were your conditions before taking this and after taking, how did your conditions improve?

 

Which part of the body do you inject on?

 

 

 

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On 9/10/2019 at 1:56 PM, EricTh said:

 

Mind telling us what were your conditions before taking this and after taking, how did your conditions improve?

 

Which part of the body do you inject on?

 

 

 

I just had low T in blood tests; no real symptoms of anything.  To be honest, raising T up to suggested levels really did very little that I noticed except maybe I felt more energetic and seemed to have a bit better lean mass, but certainly not all the “miraculous” things often touted by TRT Gurus.  

 

Like most things that sound “to good to be true” and in fact are not all they’re made out to be,  TRT is no exception.

 

You can inject sub-q (into fat beneath skin) with a small 31ga needle, or IM (deeper into muscle like the glutes) with a 23ga 1.25 inch needle.  I’ve done both and prefer IM.  Either way is equally effective.

 

As others have said, even though no prescription is required, you should consult a physician and have blood tests before starting a regimen, and absolutely have periodic blood tests while on TRT.  You can seriously screw your body up if you don’t know what you’re doing.

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Years ago in the states when I started using Test. cream the Pharmacist warmed me no big bang, you will not be jumping over tall building more than likely only a sense of well being. I had more of a reaction the first time I started using liquid zinc, as it inhibts estrogen conversion and you have more free test. I bought some gel from the two sisters pharmacy at Thapae gate a while back and she had ampules of injectable test.

My health problem is low cholestrol it was 105 the last time I had it checked at RAM. It has been like that for years. I would love to get it up to 150 but that entails to much orange juice

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On 8/2/2019 at 11:20 AM, WaveHunter said:

 

FYI, Testosterone Enanthate 250mg/mL by RotexMedica (Germany) is pharma-grade and same quality as Beyer, and is available again in Thailand in 20 amp boxes.  Cost is 3300 baht per box.

 

Beyer apparently is indeed history.  Details are pretty sketchy but something to do with long-term issues with their production labs.  This has been going on since last October so my guess is it won't be resolved, and if you buy single amps, I'd be real concerned about authenticity and expiry dates for sure.

 

I am in Pattaya, but if you are in Chiang Mai, chances are that Peera Pharmacy will have RotexMedica.

 

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No idea why you quoting me but Beyer did not have any problems with it’s lab production , just stopped making box of 20 as selling in singles is more profitable .

 

the Rotex is not as good as Beyer and 3300 is also overpriced.  Price in Pattaya is 3000 baht 

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On 9/11/2019 at 7:08 PM, BestB said:

No idea why you quoting me but Beyer did not have any problems with it’s lab production , just stopped making box of 20 as selling in singles is more profitable .

 

the Rotex is not as good as Beyer and 3300 is also overpriced.  Price in Pattaya is 3000 baht 

Sorry but I think you are wrong.  First of all, there is and has been a shortage of Testosterone from Bayer since last year. 

 

As one example of proof, The AIFA (Italian Drug Agency) on February 8, 2019 updated the list of drugs that were temporarily lacking or unavailable on the international market. The list includes Bayer Testoviron. The agency reports that it has been out of production since September 2018.  The reason they cite is "...Suspended for "problems related to production in September 2018...". 

 

The report also states that in September 2019, a resumption of marketing is assumed. 

 

Any "Bayer Testoviron" on the market right now is likely fake, and if the production date is after September, 2018 it is absolutely fake! 

 

That sentiment is supported by numerous reports of fake Bayer testoviron that started flooding the market last year.  As an example, see https://www.health.gov.il/English/News_and_Events/Spokespersons_Messages/Pages/28102018_3.aspx

 

Your assumption that Bayer no longer sells 20-packs because singles are more profitable is not something a major pharmaceutical company would do.  They would not sell a fragile glass ampule without protective packaging, and I have never seen single ampules with any sort of manufacturer's protective packaging. 

 

Further, it would be more expensive to market singles and thus less profitable due to economy of scale, not the other way around, as you claim.

 

The only way you purchase singles is if the pharmacist has broken down a box of 20 ampules to sell individually.

 

As for Rotex not being as good as Bayer, on what basis do you say that?  I have been using it since last October and my blood tests are right on the money.  I buy from a trusted pharmacists and if he wants to charge me an extra 300 baht over what another pharmacist might charge for something that might be fake, I'll happily pay the extra amount.  Furthermore, Rotex is MUCH LESS likely to be faked than Bayer.

 

Sorry...not trying to pick a fight with you; I just don't want people to be buying fake Bayer Test, or mistakenly believing that there is anything wrong with Rotexmedica.  It is pharmaceutical grade.  If you have proof counter to what I said, please provide.

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On 9/16/2019 at 10:07 AM, WaveHunter said:

Any "Bayer Testoviron" on the market right now is likely fake, and if the production date is after September, 2018 it is absolutely fake! 

I have a supply from Ram hospital.  They have an expiration date - 2023 but no production date.

 

If yours shows a production date, it may be fake. 😧

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