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BANGKOK 25 May 2019 04:56
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For Thailand’s sake, let’s move beyond Thaksin

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3 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said:

And, the article brings out the old canard of Thaksin being "convicted". First, it is almost certainly true that he is guilty of something; all of Thailand's leaders fall into that category. However, the article, as usual, misses the point.

 

But not under self given amnesty and article 44 they aren't. 

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3 hours ago, Spidey said:

Extremely biased view. Luckily no one reading it will be voting. My wife and all her family will be voting Pheu Thai, as are virtually every other Thai that I've talked to. They will win by a landslide.

 

All to no avail though as the army senate will, by hook or by crook, install Prayut as prime minister. A complete sham.

Do you really think the results will come out that way after 30 or 50 or 150 days of their deliberation of counting them?

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It's obvious in Thailand, the UK, the USA and many other places.

Give uneducated and uninformed idiots the right to vote and it's almost inevitable that they will <deleted> it up.

 

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On 3/18/2019 at 9:53 AM, OneMoreFarang said:

It's obvious in Thailand, the UK, the USA and many other places.

Give uneducated and uninformed idiots the right to vote and it's almost inevitable that they will <deleted> it up.

 

Indeed. Roger Waters expressed that well, though in another context: "Give any one species enough rope and they'll <deleted> it up.

 

Meanwhile in the land of the Dreaming, It's nearly popcorn time, the orchestra's tuning up and Apirat's getting himself all hot and bothered. Should be quite a show.


Someone should start a sweepstake on who makes the most inane/bizarre/lame comment. Should be lots to choose from, and a fun time will be had by all.

 

 

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The only reason they are finally going to have elections is because they are now ready to rig the results and Pryut will be "elected" (appointed)

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10 minutes ago, robblok said:

He did get away with it he is still free and still influencing the PTP anyone thinking that he pulled his hands off PTP control is not a realist. He got punished (marginally) but yes its more then others have.

 

Anyway the nation was totally clear there was a democracy in place when he was convicted and his party was in power. What they forgot are all the other cases against Thaksin. The man is a crook and we would be far better off without him. Now if he could take Suthep and Prayut and Prawit with him and Charlem and Yattuporn with him for retirement then Thai politics would be rid of some of the fossils holding it back.

He is still free because none of the countries that he went and resided believed that his crimes were not politically influenced and thus didn't followed the extradition demands by the Thailand  government. Most see the 2006 coup as class conflicts between the rural poor who supported Thaksin and the urban elite who supported the military. 

 

Thaksin cases were investigated by the coup government appointed Assets Examination Committee. Its finding lead to the court rulings against Thaksin - 2 years imprisonment and confiscation of 40 B Baht for being 'unusually rich'. Far better off for him to be given a trial again as suggested by King Prajadhipok Institute and Thanathorn. He should be put away by non partisan judiciary and the coup leaders trialed for corruption and treason. Then Thai politics will be better off. 

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Posted (edited)

General elections in Thailand are a bit like Christmas - a mid-winter orgy of gift-giving. The minimum wage might well increase, but that really is about all we can expect from our so-called seniors. We really can't expect Thailand to buck the global trend towards dumb populist politics and economic non-sustainability. Enjoy the festive season, .... while it lasts.

Edited by Mexlark

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The real democracy is letting the people vote for who they like. No matter who corrupts the most, if people like them, they voted, if voted for a wrong person, they will see the karma later on and not to vote for that candidate again in the next election. Thaksin's corruption was serious but the others don't seems to be cleaner than him. I can't deny the fact that Thais are not quite ready for democracy but this is what it is, too many farmers and poor people in the country, they don't know what's politics, they only want to survive, nothing wrong if they vote for someone can ONLY make their life a bit easier, who cares about who corrupt the most.

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10 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

He is still free because none of the countries that he went and resided believed that his crimes were not politically influenced and thus didn't followed the extradition demands by the Thailand  government. Most see the 2006 coup as class conflicts between the rural poor who supported Thaksin and the urban elite who supported the military.

Is that what is happening?

Countries have interests, not friends.

It's easy to understand that lots of countries don't want to get involved in Thai politics. If they would arrest Thaksin maybe the current government would be happy - but even that is not sure. But if Thaksin and his cronies come back to power he will for sure retaliate. Nobody wants to get involved in this mess.

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12 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

He is still free because none of the countries that he went and resided believed that his crimes were not politically influenced and thus didn't followed the extradition demands by the Thailand  government. Most see the 2006 coup as class conflicts between the rural poor who supported Thaksin and the urban elite who supported the military. 

 

Thaksin cases were investigated by the coup government appointed Assets Examination Committee. Its finding lead to the court rulings against Thaksin - 2 years imprisonment and confiscation of 40 B Baht for being 'unusually rich'. Far better off for him to be given a trial again as suggested by King Prajadhipok Institute and Thanathorn. He should be put away by non partisan judiciary and the coup leaders trialed for corruption and treason. Then Thai politics will be better off. 

I agree give him a trial again but for all his cases. Wanna bet he would be a too scared because we all know he is guilty for far more then just that case. The guy is so dirty and it can be proven. Not innocent not political (as in a made up case). So I would love a re trail for all his cases and him waiting it off in Thailand. This is as likely as the Prawit getting tried. They are on par both untouchable and dirty.

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