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New Zealand PM Ardern targets gun reform laws after weekend of mourning

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3 hours ago, usviphotography said:

Never let a good crisis go to West. Looks like Arden is using this event as her excuse to both ban guns and institute Chinese style internet controls. The latter is probably more dangerous in the short term. 

Banning guns isn't dangerous at all in my opinion.

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2 minutes ago, riclag said:

world wide confiscation of legally owned  guns is the answer! Soldiers,Police, Government ,everybody ,including banning Hollywood movies and video games! Have a buy back program for the illegals(lol)

People kill not guns !Fix the people! That ain't happening soon

Hyperbole.

 

 

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11 hours ago, MalandLee said:

Question: Is removing NZ'ers right to own a firearm a form of mass punishment??

 

They have not had any major issues with firearms before this Australian Person committed this horrendous, unforgivable act.

 

Question: Should other curtailment or removal of "rights" be considered an appropriate response?

 

Can we not learn from the USA & Britain et. al. - The "Patriot Act" - Americans (USA) were promised it would end in 2005, it was extended, after a further 4 years, then extended again, then yet again by Obama...  Loss of hard won freedoms  by our USA brothers and sisters?? Of course you be the judge.

 

The has to be a price - say many.

 

Why? does there have to be a price??, ask some.

 

It will be a struggle and can not be achieved over night but my suggestions would be:

Phase 1. mandatory registration of all firearms and tighter control of sales of firearms, legal requirement to keep firearms and ammunition in safes.

Phase 2. Reduce the number of licences by re issue of firearm licences, consideration of purpose for use, limitation number an type of firearms held,  criminal records cheek, mental health check (psychometric test). 

 

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1 hour ago, Spidey said:

That's not how it worked in the UK. When the law was changed, we had a gun amnesty and all good men and true walked into the local police station and handed their guns in. Simples!

That’s more or less how it went down in Australia..... I actually got more money thru the gun buy back scheme Australia used during the amnesty, than I had paid out... and as I had found that I didn’t like killing things with a gun, it was a great outcome.

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Off-topic posts and replies removed.   The topic is not about the US Constitution and the 2nd Amendment.   Stay on topic or face a suspension.

 

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10 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Not that clear, because there are 2 schools of thought. One as described above blames the weapon and lessens the murderers role in the attack. Man shoots people in mosque = ban guns.

 

 The other school of thought, and the one I subscribe to, is that the human perpetrator is responsible 100% for his actions. If he stabs someone with a knife you do not need to ban knives. If he murders people with a truck, there is no need to ban trucks. The solution to lessening societal violence lies in good parenting, traditional family units, social cohesion and severe punishments for violent offenders.

 

 I am appalled to see the NZ PM using this incident as an excuse to play such a dirty political game. Classic opportunism, and very crass behavior. Wearing an item of clothing that symbolizes repression of women amongst other things was also probably not advisable.

 

 

What dirty political game? All the NZ PM is seeking to do is ban privately held semi and automatic weapons, high capacity magazines and so on. Why on earth does a hunter require such weapons or indeed other civilians when they have proven to be highly effective mass murder killing instruments. It is absolutely crazy the Oz and NZ societies to be burdened with an aspect of the politically motivated stupidity of US society which the Right constantly advocates.

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11 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

Banning guns isn't dangerous at all in my opinion.

Then don't buy one, and leave the rest of us alone. I wonder if they have even figured out, what the difference is between a semi-automatic firearm and automatic firearm that was reported earlier. Same for the shooting in the Netherlands.

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I'm amazed at the rocket scientists, that think banning firearms, especially the AR-15 types, is really a solution. As I already stated, some so stupid, they don't know the difference between semi-automatic, and automatic. 

 

In the U.S. the Navy Shipyard shooter didn't need a rifle, or even a semi-automatic firearm, he used a simple pump action shotgun, the Virginia Tech shooter didn't even use a rifle, he used two handguns. Timothy McVeigh said to hell with it, said I'm not wasting time, and used fertilizer to kill 168. The common problem is the criminal, not the tools used.

 

Bottom line, I'm glad NZ is stuck with that PM, and not me.

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