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griffon2011

Moving household goods to Vietnam from BKK

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Does anyone have any experience moving household goods from Thailand to Vietnam. Are there any issues with customs, special inspections or detailed inventories etc.  I am putting together a Plan B in case I have a problem with my retirement visa.  

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Hi griffon2011, I wondering the same thing. I not going to wait as things will only get worse regards visa etc. Feed up off all this BS,

so I planning to move to Da Nang in a few months time so I getting things organized in good time.

I want to send just a few boxes, no heavy stuff, but not sure the best way.

I search google and I find a bunch of shipping company but it seems all the big names do not do for a private customer

so I keep searching. I will ship maybe 3-4 boxes with maybe 50kg each with most clothes, some electronics etc so not big.

Let's hope someone done this and can help us out. I update here if I find something useful.

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On 3/23/2019 at 12:48 AM, INV said:

So been doing some reading in some VN forum and it's not worth bringing anything

I read here https://www.movers.com/international-movers/moving-to/vietnam.html

so I will just fill my bags with clothes and rest I just sell cheap or give away before I leave

Hi INV,  I am waiting on a quote from Santa Fe Relocation but the first thing they sent was a link to Vietnam Customs similar to yours. It looks like quite a paperwork/inspection ordeal and there are duties of 10% on furniture and 40-60% on electronics among others. I am curious as to how they determine the value of furniture or electronics. I have expensive furniture that I don't feel like paying large duties on and selling or giving away.  I had a very easy move from the US to Thailand.  The "duties" were 28K baht and no one even looked in the container.  Maybe the situation in Vietnam will be the same. I will chat with the mover on Monday and see what he has to say.      

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Would be interesting to read in future how you guys solved this?

Years ago when i moved from TH to Phils, I found many shipping companies in Bkk and Laem chabang That was not my problem. 1 container by ship delivered within 6-8 weeks would cost me more than 100.000 baht in shipping alone. Customs fee would be another big issue. In the end I sold all, with big loss.

Vietnam attract many Thai expats, so would be interesting to read how you both solved this.

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I can understand you wanting to get outta Thailand with all the Visa problems. However, after considering all the other potential countries I came to the conclusion that all posed various problems and hassles, some worse than here. You may be going out of the frying pan into the fire. I wish you luck, please post how you get on over there.

 

I cannot be arsed to move to another country, unless I get posted to an inactive position.

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14 hours ago, ExpatPH said:

Would be interesting to read in future how you guys solved this?

Years ago when i moved from TH to Phils, I found many shipping companies in Bkk and Laem chabang That was not my problem. 1 container by ship delivered within 6-8 weeks would cost me more than 100.000 baht in shipping alone. Customs fee would be another big issue. In the end I sold all, with big loss.

Vietnam attract many Thai expats, so would be interesting to read how you both solved this.

I just received a quote for 215K baht plus a 7% VAT for shipping 18-20 cubic meters of household goods from BKK to Da Nang. That is about $7200 USD just for shipping.  Add in the Vietnamese duties for electronics(40%) and furniture (10%) and the potential cost for customs inspections and I would have to seriously think about moving anything.  Too much paperwork and too many unknowns. If I was certain of the process and charges at the Vietnamese end it might be worth it but I need to do some more research.  28K baht solved the customs issue in Thailand so maybe a similar situation is available in Vietnam. 

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That wasn't cheap. Hope you get more quotes.

I remember some was willing to negotiate, if I was willing to extend delivery time.

Have you found a Vietnam forum and tried to ask there for advice?

You mentioned potential cost for customs inspections. With a foreign name on shipping order, I would assume obligatory thorough custom inspection. A native could be of help with customs.

 

Sale of expensive furniture and other household items, have you found how to solve this?

I used auction companies, and that was not the best idea, big loss. How about Facebook for sale, other thai websites for sale, for sale outside Foodland, thaivisas own section for sale.

 

In some cases I would also consider to rent storage room, and wait and see what next 2 years changes will bring, to immigration requirements.

 

Appreciate you follow up this thread. 

 

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MOVING TO DA NANG; NEED ADVICE RE CUSTOMS DUTIES ON USED "RACING" BICYCLES

Currently live in Chinag Mai and love it but am also totally fed up with the growing difficulties of maintaining my long-stay visa with IMM.

 

I need some help in determining what to expect from Vietnam customs regarding personal belongings I would be bring with me if I make the move.  I plan to fly in by commercial carrier (Air Asia), and probably make two separate trips since max baggage is 50kg per trip.

 

So, first question; is that going to raise red flags with Customs?

 

Secondly, I own several USED "racing" bicycles.  They are for my personal use only, in used condition, and clearly look it.  I am assuming there will be no duties flying in with them, but (worst case scenario) if they were considered taxable, I am really confused by the tariff table.  My bikes were purchased in the USA but probably built in China, and I will be flying in from Thailand...so which category would it be categorized as ("favour" assume this would be for USA, "ATIGA" for Thailand, or "ACFTA" for China)?  And...what constitutes a "racing bicycle" verses a regular bicycle?  I mean, 60% vs 45% vs 5% is a huge range.  How do I figure which one Customs would apply?

 

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On 4/9/2019 at 11:31 PM, DaRoadrunner said:

I can understand you wanting to get outta Thailand with all the Visa problems. However, after considering all the other potential countries I came to the conclusion that all posed various problems and hassles, some worse than here. You may be going out of the frying pan into the fire. I wish you luck, please post how you get on over there.

 

I cannot be arsed to move to another country, unless I get posted to an inactive position.

Good point, however, NOT necessarily.  

Take a close assessment of what matters most, employ a risk/reward and cost/loss analysis on the value of items and quality of life YOU seek (based on best guess). Then pull the trigger.  It's quit simple.  In the end it's not bad.  Sometimes it is like saying "same Shit, different pile".  However, the deal breaker is where you will be happy.  Another way to see the move is as an investment in an easier life  "Overall" based on 'what" matters to you.  In is case, as an example, we could say it's the Visa ( Thai immigration) and stupid Health insurance, for others it could be about the excessive road kill, and costs of living, or simple things like food and culture.

My point is take a simple eval, but look at end points, the overall investment for a better quality of life....then choose the "path of least resistance".  Thailands path (based on TVF submissions) has made living here very xenophobic to say the least.  The Vietnam visa is so simple and cheap. No reporting to mom like a convicted pedophile every 90 days, money laundering 800/400K to any bank are just some benefits.   

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16 minutes ago, mike787 said:

Good point, however, NOT necessarily.  

Take a close assessment of what matters most, employ a risk/reward and cost/loss analysis on the value of items and quality of life YOU seek (based on best guess). Then pull the trigger.  It's quit simple.  In the end it's not bad.  Sometimes it is like saying "same Shit, different pile".  However, the deal breaker is where you will be happy.  Another way to see the move is as an investment in an easier life  "Overall" based on 'what" matters to you.  In is case, as an example, we could say it's the Visa ( Thai immigration) and stupid Health insurance, for others it could be about the excessive road kill, and costs of living, or simple things like food and culture.

My point is take a simple eval, but look at end points, the overall investment for a better quality of life....then choose the "path of least resistance".  Thailands path (based on TVF submissions) has made living here very xenophobic to say the least.  The Vietnam visa is so simple and cheap. No reporting to mom like a convicted pedophile every 90 days, money laundering 800/400K to any bank are just some benefits.   

Totally agree.  I love living in Thailand in many ways but this whole IMM debacle over long stay visas is pure nonsense and only getting worse compared with the straight-forward regulations and procedures of Vietnam.  What it really boils down to for me is that Vietnam is a rising star economically in SE Asia, and values the presence of ExPats and encourages them to come, whereas Thailand, at best, merely tolerates them but has become overly protectionistic and suspicious of ExPats to the point where they are really just shooting themselves in the foot.  Nobody likes being treated so poorly when they are actually making a significant contribution to a nation's income.  

 

I get a very palpable sense that Vietnamese people are genuinely friendly and engaging towards ExPats, whereas many Thai's, especially IMM officers are often only patronizing at best.  It's not blatant, but you can definitely pick up on this difference sometimes.  All things considered, I;'d rather live where I am appreciated, rather than merely tolerated.

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On 3/18/2019 at 1:27 PM, griffon2011 said:

Does anyone have any experience moving household goods from Thailand to Vietnam. Are there any issues with customs, special inspections or detailed inventories etc.  I am putting together a Plan B in case I have a problem with my retirement visa.

I'm doing the same...but closer to pulling the trigger.  I have had it with money laundering and Thai immigration.  I realize there is NO Elysium, but the fight to reside in Thailand is too costly and frustrating to deal with Thai immigration, from drawing directions to my residence using crayons that idiots cannot follow, to playimg immigration Russian roulette with my Visa...Their kingdom is NOT Elysium, nor worth the fight anymore...

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On 3/22/2019 at 11:37 AM, INV said:

want to send just a few boxes, no heavy stuff, but not sure the best way.

Fly with your stuff, it's only 1,500bht each way, make several trips.

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2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Fly with your stuff, it's only 1,500bht each way, make several trips.

Have you personal experience doing this?  I mean, could this raise any red flags with Customs if, say you make 2 or 3 trips in a short timeframe like a week?

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