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May seeks Brexit delay after third vote on her deal is derailed

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1 hour ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Let me sell you a car. I promise you a Ferrari for the price of a Honda. What you get is a broken toy car. When you want to return it, I’m telling you you can’t:

 

“You wanted a car, you got a car. Car means car. All that ‘toy car’ vs. ‘real car’ nonsense is something you only started after you signed the contract. Don’t tell me you didn’t know it; your friend told you I’m a crook. And don’t say our contract is not-binding; your friend told you I wouldn’t give a damn. 

 

But fine, I’m a generous person. You can choose again. Choose between the broken toy car and a bobby car. Canceling the whole is thing is not an option, that you eliminated already.”

 

Ecellent similie. But the Brexiters won't understand. They are convinced it was a once in a lifetime never ever to be discussed, changed, or voted on again! 

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I can not see how any extension could go past April 11 when we will have to commit to European Elections.

Unless we commit to defiantly leave by June 30 and relinquish any rights to revoke article 50 and remain in the EU. 

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The last and third round of negotiations / voting round will probably be canceled due to a 400 year old technical defect.

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Just when you think Brexit couldn't get any sillier, it does.

 

By the due date or March 29, it will probably be:

 

* UK pays 39 billion euros for a deal

* UK remains as associate member of EU, paying money, obeying the laws, but unable to vote

* Northern Ireland given to the Republic.

* Gibraltar given to Spain

* British citizens to lose right to reside in EU; EU citizens retain right to free movement. residence and free healthcare in UK.

 

The incompetence, arrogance, disdain, and self-interest shown by UK politicians and apparatchiks over the past 3 years is something that I hope won't be easily or quickly forgotten.

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2 hours ago, tomacht8 said:

The main problem of Brexit is its legal, economic and political complexity that would be underestimated by all Pro Brexit politicians. Not one of the UK politicians of the UK Parliament has comprehensive and detailed knowledge of all EU laws.

It was nice to look over the 3 years that almost every week a new problem area was added. Instead of wanting a completely chaotic Brexit with the crowbar, it would be much smarter to plan the exit properly in all details. Good things need their time. The Channel Tunnel has also not been built in one day. The UK should withdraw Art. 50 and start planning a reasonable Brexit for all concerned.

 

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1 hour ago, nauseus said:

once in a lifetime - possibly for many.

 

never ever to be discussed - you must be kidding!

 

changed - the corrupted powers that be are doing their best to apply their own interpretation of Brexit, a 180 degree rule that effectively alters it to remain. 

 

or voted on again - sadly that's quite likely if the current EU and UK powers get their way.

 

History has a tendency to repeat itself - especially EU voting history - which exposes a sour, anti-democratic streak at the core of the EU. We should get away from it now.

 

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or voted on again - sadly that's quite likely

 

What do you find sad about that, certain defeat?

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Can I have one or two beers please..the same as you're having..Thanks

Just when you think Brexit couldn't get any sillier, it does.
 
By the due date or March 29, it will probably be:
 
* UK pays 39 billion euros for a deal
* UK remains as associate member of EU, paying money, obeying the laws, but unable to vote
* Northern Ireland given to the Republic.
* Gibraltar given to Spain
* British citizens to lose right to reside in EU; EU citizens retain right to free movement. residence and free healthcare in UK.
 
The incompetence, arrogance, disdain, and self-interest shown by UK politicians and apparatchiks over the past 3 years is something that I hope won't be easily or quickly forgotten.


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Well she's only asking for a short extension, with no clear objective,  which the EU will probably reject.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, dunroaming said:

Totally agree with the last sentence.  Another referendum would do more harm than good.  A general election would be a better choice but who the hell do you vote for?  Just like if there was a second referendum, we would be left with a bunch of so called politicians who are incapable of representing the people.  As a country we appear to be rudderless, staggering from one disaster to another.

 

So it is unlikely that there will be another chance for the people to have a say on the future of the country in the short term.  We are in the hands of fools and charlatans, liars and cheats.

 

And this is not about leavers and remainers.  This is about our country being screwed.  I know I have been banging on about this for over two years now but none of us are getting what we wanted or voted for.  May's deal is just about as far away from what Brexiteers voted for as you can get.  Same goes for remainers yet it still looks like her deal is the most likely outcome, especially as Brexiteers like JRM are coming round to accepting it.  Gove and Fox have already capitulated on it.

I think the problem with remainers wanting another referendumn (apart from ones already mentioned) is that as much as remainer MPs want one, May and Corbyn doesn't, Corbyn doesn't even believe in Labour policies. But in my honest opinion another referendum is just a ploy to scupper brexit.

But still interesting days ahead.

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1 minute ago, vogie said:

I think the problem with remainers wanting another referendumn (apart from ones already mentioned) is that as much as remainer MPs want one, May and Corbyn doesn't, Corbyn doesn't even believe in Labour policies. But in my honest opinion another referendum is just a ploy to scupper brexit.

But still interesting days ahead.

It is obvious that the people calling for another referendum are going to be people who voted remain in the first place.  Nobody is going to argue against that.  Leavers cannot be happy with where we are though, any more than remainers are.  But we all have to look above leave/remain voting principles or rights and wrongs attached to them now.  It is about where we are going to end up and the fallout.

 

I guess recriminations will go on for years whatever the result is but it is pointless us all beating each other up over it. Whichever way we voted, nobody expected us to be where we are today, nobody foresaw this amount of chaos.

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