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Boeing reshuffles top engineers amid 737 MAX crisis

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Will that solve the problem? T.May would have reshuffled her Cabinet then🤣 naughty girl, did not listen to his negotiation tips, lamented the tramp .

I always fly Airbus if possible. 🐒

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6 hours ago, fisherd3 said:

They did not retrain the pilots because it cost too much and would hit sales $$$$$$x

Always the little matter of cash

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1 hour ago, Humpy said:

One wonders why the need for a 'gizzmo' to right the aircraft at the stall and beyond.= and no means of overriding the system, that is if the system had an override ! 

My understanding is that in order to get the new fuel efficient engines to fit they had to move them forward and up a bit. This increased the moment and can cause the aircraft to rotate upwards, high angle of attack, under high power manoeuvres, like take off and climbing.

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Beginning to look as if the fault lies with Boeing. If so, the company faces millions and millions of dollars in compensation for all the victims of the Lion Air and Ethiopian flights.

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10 hours ago, lannarebirth said:

The NTSB is the gold standard of investigative agencies. Their report will pull no punches and be both believed and acted upon by everyone.

Ya think????

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4 hours ago, toenail said:

Plus I think Boeing’s close relationship with FAA hindered the “concern” button. 

Cautious wording.

What I understand is, that the FAA delegated substantial parts of the certification to engineers nominated by Boeing.

Self certification, what you always dreamed of.

And the very close relation of the Boeing boss to POTUS was good enough to avoid/delay grounding in the US.

 

Reshuffle now and soon heads have to roll.

Criminal investigation already initiated.

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3 hours ago, Burma Bill said:

Rubbish - there are still several other "players" in the industry such as AIRBUS, BOMBARDIER, ATR and Russian ones.

Boeing has about 5000(!) orders in the book for 737 MAX alone.

Airbus' order books full to the end of the decade.

China plans to build about 400(!) new airports in the next 15 years or so.

None of the above could fill the gap.

 

Bombardier aerospace now 50.01% owned by Airbus.

Revenue about 10% of Boeing.

One model relabeled A220.

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I wonder if internal emails will emerge of Boeing engineers expressing concerns on this.  I can't imagine no one thought of this failure mode.    Boeing knew sales would be related to the cost of training all the flight crews so on purpose sold it this way.    Greed!

I read yesterday the black box on the Lion air flight did 26 up down porpoise cycles before going in.  Just think of the poor people on board.    

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A great company's reputation can be destroyed very quickly by poor management decisions.

 

I recall being told that it takes a mother three decades to make a man out of her son; but it takes a woman only three minutes to make a fool out of him.

 

Boeing should have erred on the side of caution. They may have severely damaged their reputation.

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3 minutes ago, Grouse said:

A great company's reputation can be destroyed very quickly by poor management decisions.

 

I recall being told that it takes a mother three decades to make a man out of her son; but it takes a woman only three minutes to make a fool out of him.

 

Boeing should have erred on the side of caution. They may have severely damaged their reputation.

Not only Boeing, but the FAA were complicit in allowing certification by grandfathering the type, even though there were much greater differences between the MAX and prior types.

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