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Australia cuts annual immigrant cap 15 percent, puts key cities off-limits to some

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5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Agree. NZ does not have the infrastructure for the amount of immigration, and it should be limited if not stopped altogether till the infrastructure has improved. Not so long ago water restrictions were imposed because too many people have arrived. The housing/ rental prices are appalling now. The traffic is atrocious

At most, workers for the fruit industry allowed only during picking season.

As for the OP, why only 3 years? Should be permanent, unless they become citizens.

mostly correct here..far too many immigrants are being let into our very small country.

many dont event try to intergrate..there is already enough problems with the moaris...

the country is not as happy or friendly as people think.

thats why i like thailand==people happy and friendly-NOT STRESSED.

nz very expensive--huge pressures on young people to succeed in business, sport or anything else..

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6 minutes ago, murraynz said:

mostly correct here..far too many immigrants are being let into our very small country.

many dont event try to intergrate..there is already enough problems with the moaris...

the country is not as happy or friendly as people think.

thats why i like thailand==people happy and friendly-NOT STRESSED.

nz very expensive--huge pressures on young people to succeed in business, sport or anything else..

The Maori not integrating? You are having a laugh! 

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6 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Agree. NZ does not have the infrastructure for the amount of immigration, and it should be limited if not stopped altogether till the infrastructure has improved. Not so long ago water restrictions were imposed because too many people have arrived. The housing/ rental prices are appalling now. The traffic is atrocious

At most, workers for the fruit industry allowed only during picking season.

As for the OP, why only 3 years? Should be permanent, unless they become citizens.

And at the other end of the spectrum you have Japan with a negative birth rate, negligible immigration and the economy effectively stagnant for the past 25 years.

 

The governtment  spending to build ‘make work’ infrastructure projects has sent the their debt to GDP ratio sky rocketing and that is just so they can tread water economically. 

 

There are no easy solutions. 

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1 hour ago, PerkinsCuthbert said:

I'm interested to know what purpose you think that would serve?

Do not give him the satisfaction of giving him publicity, deny him the notoriety he craves.

 

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15 minutes ago, samran said:

The Maori not integrating? You are having a laugh! 

I think you will find that they as the first inhabitants remain very dispossessed and dissatisfied with their place in society 

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2 hours ago, Krataiboy said:
2 hours ago, from the home of CC said:

I agree. Did Oswald's name spur a rash of presidential assassination attempts? Did Manson's name declare open season on celebrities? Sticking your head in the sand will only result in a beached brain.  

Precisely. The same could be said about mass killers like Hitler, Stalin, Chairman Mao - and. in fairness, a certain former warlord turned prophet.

Edited 2 hours ago by Krataiboy

One major difference - there was no social media to whip up angry mobs at short notice, no ability to incite hatred among the most vulnerable, gullible and least intelligent masses who are so easily led by the nose, following anonymous 'influencers' who would otherwise not have a soapbox to stand on.

 

Mass hysteria is quite easy to arrange today...

 

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30 minutes ago, digger70 said:

Are you for real ,Ain't you one of them? If Australia wasn't Invaded there would be nothing for the Abbo's to claim and to Bludge from the government  they would be still living in the bush and eating Grubs .😜

Part of your post is really disgusting and shows racial bias, there are many educated Aboriginal leaders who in spite of enormous racial prejudice have achieved.

  

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9 hours ago, webfact said:

Prime Minister Scott Morrison - who is trailing badly in the polls ahead of a federal election in May - hopes to tap into rising voter frustration over...

...these bloody foreigners coming into our cities. That is the domain of us native Australians! 

 

Today's Australian government reminds me of the South African government back in 1980, when similar speeches were made, only thinly disguising the racist nature of similar actions, designed to entrench white supremacist values.

 

The recent attack displays quite clearly how warped a view of reality one white Australian developed growing up, in a country which used to be measured by the warmth and openness of the people, not the dollar value of their houses in Sydney.

 

Hopefully one day the world will sit up and ask why a country as large as this can have such draconian immigration laws - there are only 25 million people.

 

And when the old argument about no water arises, what about Dubai? If BHP wasn't sucking billions out of the economy perhaps water schemes could change the face of Australia forever.

 

Not likely though as then it would not be white Anglo-Saxon nirvana anymore.

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5 minutes ago, ParadiseLost said:

One major difference - there was no social media to whip up angry mobs at short notice, no ability to incite hatred among the most vulnerable, gullible and least intelligent masses who are so easily led by the nose, following anonymous 'influencers' who would otherwise not had a soapbox to stand on.

 

Mass hysteria is quite easy to arrange today...

Hitler managed to 'whip up angry mobs at short notice' without the use of the book of face. Some of the folks who followed his hate weren't vulnerable or less intelligent, so I totally don't buy the difference. I don't believe that by keeping his name quiet that is going to somehow mitigate another crime. If you're off your rocker you're off your rocker, if it's not one thing it's going to be another that sets off the loony on these horrific escapades. IMO  Trying to limit legitimate news information from the public is foolishness on many levels and also arrogant.

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4 minutes ago, from the home of CC said:

Some of the folks who followed his hate weren't vulnerable or less intelligent,

No, but they were all most definitely intimidated, terrorised.

 

Nobody is putting a gun to the FB zombies, whatever you put in front of them is real, unless someone with more likes says it is not so...

 

I am curious - are you implying intelligent people followed Hitler? Look where that got them. No mate, anyone who admires a fascist is one themself.

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22 minutes ago, ParadiseLost said:

One major difference - there was no social media to whip up angry mobs at short notice, no ability to incite hatred among the most vulnerable, gullible and least intelligent masses who are so easily led by the nose, following anonymous 'influencers' who would otherwise not have a soapbox to stand on.

 

Mass hysteria is quite easy to arrange today...

 

So is mass, arbitrary censorship by social media giants like Facebook, Twitter and YouTube of conservative and so-called right wing contributors whose views run counter to the "official" narrative.

 

Here's an example of what I mean.

 

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25 minutes ago, ParadiseLost said:

No, but they were all most definitely intimidated, terrorised.

 

Nobody is putting a gun to the FB zombies, whatever you put in front of them is real, unless someone with more likes says it is not so...

 

I am curious - are you implying intelligent people followed Hitler? Look where that got them. No mate, anyone who admires a fascist is one themself.

No, I was responding to the notion that only 'least intelligent' people subscribe to hate. Many everyday Germans responded favorably to the rantings of that lunatic and I don't believe the German citizens were terrorized unless they were Jewish. Please, my father nearly died on a corvette escorting supplies to defeat that psychopathic meth head, no I don't admire mass murderers. But to tell me all the Germans who believed in him at the time were sub intelligent, that's impossible.

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19 minutes ago, Krataiboy said:

So is mass, arbitrary censorship by social media giants like Facebook, Twitter and YouTube of conservative and so-called right wing contributors whose views run counter to the "official" narrative.

That's okay by me when the official narrative is don't spread vicious lies and hate speech designed to poison the minds of ignorant social media lemmings, who would believe literally anything you serve them.

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