webfact Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Thanathorn, netizens slam Nation TV By The Nation FUTURE FORWARD Party leader Thanathorn Juangroongruangkit yesterday beat a right-leaning television station at its own game, challenging it to prove the authenticity of an audio clip alleged to be a conversation between him and ousted former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra. Nation TV yesterday was in the hot seat after the audio clip was aired on one of its most popular news programmes, hosted by its star anchor Kanok Ratwongsakul. The clip featured an alleged conversation between the two politicians discussing post-election prospects. Netizens criticised the station, saying it had shown itself to be politically compromised by reporting “fake news” that favoured the pro-junta bloc. Most social media comments characterised the audio clip as “obviously fake” – composed of a voice collage of the two politicians speaking to different audiences on different occasions. ‘Stooping low’ Thanathorn, in a telephone interview with another news programme on Nation TV yesterday, said he did not think “good” media outlets would broadcast such a clip. “Nation broadcasting the clip just shows how [you’re] stooping so low,” he said. “It’s a shame [you] aired it.” The anchor of another Nation TV show asked whether he had ever spoken with Thaksin. Thanathorn said, “I’ve talked about this so many times. I think a good media [outlet] should not make it my burden – as the accused here – to prove it. Good media would actually apologise to me. Show responsibility to me and to the people receiving this [false] news.” A Thai-language hashtag that can be translated as “NationBusted” circulated online all day yesterday along with criticism of the media giant and its conservative anchor, Kanok. A station executive, however, stood firm about broadcasting the clip, claiming it was done in accordance with media ethics. He challenged Thanathorn to take legal action if he believed Nation TV had crossed the line. Nation TV managing director Chatchai Pokogwai said the station was only doing its job, reporting what was happening and then offering Thanathorn a chance to give his side of the story. But the politician merely took the opportunity to reprimand the station harshly, he said. “If Thanathorn thinks our report has caused him damage, he can pursue a case against us,” Chatchai said. “I’m ready to take legal action against him as well.” Spurce: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30366204 -- © Copyright The Nation 2019-03-21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2702 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 This guy does seem like the real deal but maybe a bit early for him to get the top job. Hope I'm wrong as this guy seems very international friendly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunderhill Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Thailand's independent newspaper, yeah right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, gunderhill said: Thailand's independent newspaper, yeah right! Fox news for Thais. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chang_paarp Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 So has someone gone running to the EC, the broadcast authority and the computer crimes police to complain about this? You can bet if it was a different political leader all those authorities and the army would be involved within hours of the broadcast with the station making all sorts of mea culpas to keep on the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fex Bluse Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 3 hours ago, webfact said: “If Thanathorn thinks our report has caused him damage, he can pursue a case against us,” Chatchai said. “I’m ready to take legal action against him as well.” Typical Thai response from Chatchai. No matter the circumstances, it's always about ego for them. Brains of children in adult bodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 3 hours ago, webfact said: challenging it to prove the authenticity of an audio clip alleged to be a conversation between him and ousted former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra. what is the problem , anything anti-military is for the current greater good; thaksin was/is smart; pity his greed, spread and practiced by his minions , didnt turn out what thailand needed at the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 It sounds like one of those unheard of smear campaigns to me???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, YetAnother said: what is the problem , anything anti-military is for the current greater good; thaksin was/is smart; pity his greed, spread and practiced by his minions , didnt turn out what thailand needed at the time It was what Thailand needed, it wasn't what the ruling elite/military needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 5 hours ago, Rc2702 said: This guy does seem like the real deal but maybe a bit early for him to get the top job. Hope I'm wrong as this guy seems very international friendly. Well yes, but he needs to think more carefully and be more sure of his facts before he speaks sometimes. His statements about the paymasters conviction being politically motivated one good example. His party co-founder is a senior law lecturer, I'm surprised he doesn't ensure such comments are very correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 14 minutes ago, Spidey said: It was what Thailand needed, it wasn't what the ruling elite/military needed. Not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, scorecard said: Not true. Is too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katipo Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 5 hours ago, Rc2702 said: This guy does seem like the real deal but maybe a bit early for him to get the top job. Hope I'm wrong as this guy seems very international friendly. Too early for him to get the top job? Come on, like even a potato could do a worse job than the current lot ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katipo Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I like how the Nation challenges the guy to take legal action knowing that a) the courts don't have a reputation for impartiality, and b) with the election just around the corner he simply hasn't got the time for this type of distraction. I agree with Thanathorn, "very low". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABloke Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Spidey said: Fox news for Thais. More like "Any mainstream US news channel" for Thais. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boonrawdcnx Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Thai journalism at it’s best - airing a fake clip and then trying to make the victim responsible. The positive side of this story is that these idiots at Nation TV have just made Thanathorn even more popular the moment it was exposed that the clip was fake! The managing director said the station was doing it’s job ? By airing a clip that every child would have know that it was doctored? Is the guy for real ? Change his position to janitor. The way Thanathorn conducts himself again and again when wrongfully attacked shows what great leadership qualities he has - steering ahead without getting distracted by these sorry excuses of human beings.He is the only hope for real change in Thailand and the only sane choice for Thais in these elections. To shine some light on the disgusting behavior of Nation TV owned by the Nation Media Group it also Includes the newspaper who’s articles we read here on ThaiVisa. It is a lousy business making constant losses very likely because of the incompetent management. Thanathorn on the other hand is a self made successful business man. He unlike the Nation does not depend on and can not be blackmailed by the junta and cronies to remove advertising revenue if they don’t report their fake news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmitch Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 If Nation TV is available online then surely they have violated the computer crimes act by spreading fake news. But I'm not sure the rules apply when it could be in the junta's interests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2702 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 46 minutes ago, Katipo said: Too early for him to get the top job? Come on, like even a potato could do a worse job than the current lot ???? He's been in the game since 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Great, same as before on the red radio stations now you got it on national stations too. Fake news is becoming a problem. Of course if this had been on a anti junta show and it showed a doctored clip of Prayut action would be far more decisive and swift. Not a level playing field at all. But they do all seem to love their fake news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boonrawdcnx Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 If Nation TV is available online then surely they have violated the computer crimes act by spreading fake news. But I'm not sure the rules apply when it could be in the junta's interests.They could not afford a lawsuit - going by the value of their stock they will not be around very much longer. Probably forced to air the fake news by the junta and their cronies for advertisement revenue. Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantom Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 4 hours ago, Chang_paarp said: So has someone gone running to the EC, the broadcast authority and the computer crimes police to complain about this? You can bet if it was a different political leader all those authorities and the army would be involved within hours of the broadcast with the station making all sorts of mea culpas to keep on the air. Point well made sir, may I add the much trumpeted Electoral Commission "Cyber E-war room" should be salivating over this, but given the political leader in question, nary a dribble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, boonrawdcnx said: The managing director said the station was doing it’s job ? By airing a clip that every child would have know that it was doctored? Is the guy for real ? Change his position to janitor. They'll make him an Honorary General Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knee Jerk Reaction Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Thanathorn's credentials are good. Took over the reins of the family company at 23 when his father died and with his mother built it up very successfully. Speaks perfect English and nicknamed his first son Demo (short for democracy). If he's good enough he's old enough. I can see why others less able are running scared of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 "Right leaning"?? Nation, the owner of this forum, is seen as right leaning? Looks like the exact opposite to me, a bastion of leftist PC <deleted>. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chang_paarp Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 And in a "Only in Thailand Moment"; Quote NATION THREATENS TO SUE CANDIDATE SMEARED IN DOCTORED CLIP http://www.khaosodenglish.com/politics/2019/03/21/nation-threatens-to-sue-candidate-smeared-in-doctored-clip/?fbclid=IwAR2d-dEVO4VqqVhI-wRoexJo0653j1tlNxwpDv-iPKEOoIsIMHKn_RReMlc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 9 hours ago, Fex Bluse said: Typical Thai response from Chatchai. No matter the circumstances, it's always about ego for them. Brains of children in adult bodies. Please don't elevate their intelligence so highly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denim Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 10 hours ago, gunderhill said: Thailand's independent newspaper, yeah right! Well, sort of independent. Independent of the values of integrity , honesty , shame ....etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fex Bluse Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 26 minutes ago, Chang_paarp said: And in a "Only in Thailand Moment"; "Do you know who my father is" syndrome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Chang_paarp said: And in a "Only in Thailand Moment"; Thanathorn should call their bluff, they would pee their collective pants if he took them on. Ask for a copy of the recording and have it carefully analysed for fake. Analysed outside of Thailand of course - by a legitimate organisation who know what they are doing and who are not influenced by boys in green or 44 rules etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benmart Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 11 hours ago, scorecard said: Well yes, but he needs to think more carefully and be more sure of his facts before he speaks sometimes. His statements about the paymasters conviction being politically motivated one good example. His party co-founder is a senior law lecturer, I'm surprised he doesn't ensure such comments are very correct. Correctness, often is not the truth. On the other hand, the truth reveals correctness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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