webfact Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Motorcycle taxi wars: Grab rider attacked by "win" as police admit the law is not clear Police near Khao San Road have admitted that the law regarding the use of Grab Bike and similar services is still unclear. They have called on motorcycle taxis (win), Grab, taxi drivers and Uber to keep calm and call the cops if there are disputes. In a latest case that happened in Chakraphon Road a Grab rider was attacked by a "win" rider. Pictures of his bloodied shoulder caused a lot of comment from the public after they appeared on the "Patiharn Sarikapun" page. Pol Lt-Col Phuwadon Unphote of the Chanasongkhram police near the end of Khao San Road told Daily News Online that this was a case of turf wars between Grab and regular motorcycle taxis. A verbal argument had broken out that led to violence. A man is to appear in court charged with assault after the incident on Tuesday. Lt-Col Phuwadon called for calm while admitting that the law is unclear at this time regarding the use of services like Grab and Uber. He urged people to call the cops if there was trouble. The injured poster on Facebook said they would continue working for Grab and were OK but undaunted. Source: Daily News -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2019-03-21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 What is unclear? That assault is against the law? Or that competition is not welcome? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, webfact said: Grab rider attacked by "win" as police admit the law is not clear The law is very clear - it's assault Why not Grab both of them and charge them - Win Win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petermik Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Even if the law was very clear on this most would not understand it..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabhand Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Has Khao San Road moved to Pattaya? Or is bad news automatically considered as Pattaya related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcharacters Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, smedly said: The law is very clear - it's assault Why not Grab both of them and charge them - Win Win Would you please explain the law as you know it. I only figure if Grab is operating in a city it must be with legal permission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 36 minutes ago, watcharacters said: Would you please explain the law as you know it. I only figure if Grab is operating in a city it must be with legal permission. why not go look it up then you can form you own opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik Andersen Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Ban this mafia taxi drivers (win) And taxi no meter too Let people use what their want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemonjelly Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 It’s not a problem in Malaysia, why should it be here? Another thing, taxi drivers etc in Malaysia don’t go around hacking at people with machetes because they know they’ll do serious time for it, not the Mickey Mouse sentencing given for violence in Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baansgr Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Meanwhile on Sukhumvit 22, a moto taxi guy has just returned a lost bag to a Korean tourist containing 700,000THB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnx101 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, lemonjelly said: It’s not a problem in Malaysia, why should it be here? Another thing, taxi drivers etc in Malaysia don’t go around hacking at people with machetes because they know they’ll do serious time for it, not the Mickey Mouse sentencing given for violence in Thailand Vietnam also there is no problem at all with Grab, of coarse Thailand has a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metempsychotic Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, baansgr said: Meanwhile on Sukhumvit 22, a moto taxi guy has just returned a lost bag to a Korean tourist containing 700,000THB on sukhumvit soi 11 the local win at the end of the soi are a godsend. mouth of the soi, not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high plane drifter Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I was in that area Khao San ,,, 2 days ago, I could not find one taxi that would use the meter, I just walked to Ratchadamnoen klang rd and the first taxi used the meter without asking him,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benmart Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 2 hours ago, lemonjelly said: It’s not a problem in Malaysia, why should it be here? Another thing, taxi drivers etc in Malaysia don’t go around hacking at people with machetes because they know they’ll do serious time for it, not the Mickey Mouse sentencing given for violence in Thailand You are so right. Here, you are likely to get more jail time for saying the wrong things about certain people, than you do for man-slaughter, or fleeing the scene of an accident with fatalities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.d Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Henrik Andersen said: Ban this mafia taxi drivers (win) And taxi no meter too Let people use what their want And have the general public have a choice? It will never happen as we both know... sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 8 hours ago, BestB said: What is unclear? That assault is against the law? Or that competition is not welcome? The law is clear, but Thais perception of how it applies to them personally is unclear ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deli Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Where is BJ to solve this problem ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik Andersen Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, james.d said: 5 hours ago, Henrik Andersen said: Ban this mafia taxi drivers (win) And taxi no meter too Let people use what their want And have the general public have a choice? It will never happen as we both know... sadly. Ofcores the general public have a choice just stop using win and start use grab taxi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mok199 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Regarding the ''one way '' traffic laws , apparently they still seem to be unclear . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Deli said: Where is BJ to solve this problem ? not sure you thought that comment through properly... Are you asking, where is the Chief of the Immigration Police to solve a Police matter?..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvavin Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 This only happened when there is incapable police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PingRoundTheWorld Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 10 hours ago, Henrik Andersen said: Ofcores the general public have a choice just stop using win and start use grab taxi Not really an option when the win driver mafia threatens Grab drivers and they are afraid to pick you up. I have some real nasty ones right next to my condo, so some Grab drivers refuse to stop there, and every time I step outside at night I have a guy approach me offering "disco" and "girls", and when I decline and flag a normal taxi (car) gives me the evil eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galactus Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 On 3/21/2019 at 9:51 AM, BestB said: What is unclear? That assault is against the law? Or that competition is not welcome? what is unclear? Grab is an illegal service. they are working illegally. using unregistered illegal motorbikes/riders with no permission to be a motorbike taxi. in the meantime, registered real motorbike taxi guys pay tax, pay for their vest and some other fees. Grab is using the legal loopholes in the system. cleat cheating. it is a Singaporean company and all they ears goes to Singapore as well. Then poor real Thai motorcycle taxi guys suffer. Such incidents often happen. no to Grab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galactus Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 On 3/21/2019 at 11:06 AM, watcharacters said: Would you please explain the law as you know it. I only figure if Grab is operating in a city it must be with legal permission. law says Grab can operate but only with registered and legal taxis or motorbike taxis. Bc taxis and motorbike taxis pay a fee and many other expenses to get a registration to be a taxi or motorbike taxi. with lots of bribes. illegal unregistered taxis and motorbike taxis has no investment or fees to pay. So, lets sya a legal motorbike taxi guy invests 100 k into this business to get registered and illegal unregistered one pays nothing and no investment. Hence, it is not fair for legal taxi and motorbike taxis and such incidents happen. Grab is doing an illegal business. it is a Singaporean company to damaging the incomes of Thai people. On 3/21/2019 at 1:53 PM, Henrik Andersen said: Ban this mafia taxi drivers (win) And taxi no meter too Let people use what their want Grab is the mafia as it is operating illegally and no one is saying anything about this. and then registered motorbike taxis do things in their way. they should ban Grab and all grab vehicles except the ones with registration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker1 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 I'm sure to the Police what is perfectly clear is that assaults and violence are against the law and if they concentrate on arrests and charges for those involved then the Taxi side of the problems will probably disappear ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinobot Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 I use transport in the following order of preference: BTS > MRT > Grab > Grab Bike > Win > Walk > Bus I would not take a Bangkok taxi if my life depended on it. They are crooks and cheats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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