PremiumLane Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 hour ago, riclag said: and that executive order was for both sides! funniest thing I have heard all day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCFC Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 40 minutes ago, Nyezhov said: Yes they are. Notice the screeching over a simple exec order that mandates adherence to one of the most precious rights of US citizens. The word "hate speech" should be banned. There is no "hate speech". There is only Speech. The tide is turning indeed. You are correct. This is really good news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PremiumLane Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Cryingdick said: You are completely out of touch in regards to what goes on in American universities these days, More over what happens on social media such as Tv where news stories are stomped out that reflect conservatives in a favorable light. Notice how around 50% of all news stories here are rages against Trump? Nothing about AOC diving in polls, dems losing popularity, the insanity of the new green deal. It won't be long before websites are held to the same standards of newspapers if they hold their users to providing factual evidence. Right now this is used against conservative members that give opinions and the left leaning posts are left unless directly reported. You can also notice the amount of attacks of a personal nature that aren't allowed by conservatives on somebody like Hillary. the second funniest thing I have heard today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 42 minutes ago, Nyezhov said: Yes they are. Notice the screeching over a simple exec order that mandates adherence to one of the most precious rights of US citizens. The word "hate speech" should be banned. There is no "hate speech". There is only Speech. The tide is turning indeed. Extremist Islamic hate speech such as calling for Jihad, too? ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas33399 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Good one Donald! The greatest President the USA has ever known! All the way mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyezhov Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, candide said: Extremist Islamic hate speech such as calling for Jihad, too? ???? Speech is speech, whatever nonsense foks want to babble is fine. Better to let haters like Nazis, Hajis, Socialists, Anarchists, Farrakaners and Whiteboysarebest just spew their nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiBunny Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Thomas33399 said: Good one Donald! The greatest President the USA has ever known! All the way mate! Surely that accolade belongs to Warren G Harding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclag Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 22 minutes ago, PremiumLane said: funniest thing I have heard all day Watch the video 21:56 - 22:16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Free speech is free speech. Liberal nutters being offended at the least little thing and attacking others should be stopped. Debate, argue but no violence please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 22 minutes ago, candide said: Extremist Islamic hate speech such as calling for Jihad, too? ???? ANY call to violence should be banned. Simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro01 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said: What because people peddling race hate want to do so unopposed. The 1st Amendment protects free speech from suppression by government. The Government has no business undermining people’s right to peacefully protest against what others have to say. Laws are already in place to deal with violence. Trump is tossing a bone to CULT45 and Illiberals are chewing on it. LMAO - this is so blinkered. This is not about hate-speech. A few days ago - Campus police blocked Ben Shapiro from entering an event Regardless of your opinion of Ben Shapiro - he is far from a hate speaker. Of course, people on the left have called him a Nazi (yup - Jewish Nazi). The mantra of the left is "everyone right of center is a Nazi" - so just like you - they attempt to label everyone that doesn't agree with them a hate-speaker. Utter nonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro01 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 31 minutes ago, candide said: Extremist Islamic hate speech such as calling for Jihad, too? ???? It is generally accepted that calls for voilence are not protected by free speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, pedro01 said: LMAO - this is so blinkered. This is not about hate-speech. A few days ago - Campus police blocked Ben Shapiro from entering an event Regardless of your opinion of Ben Shapiro - he is far from a hate speaker. Of course, people on the left have called him a Nazi (yup - Jewish Nazi). The mantra of the left is "everyone right of center is a Nazi" - so just like you - they attempt to label everyone that doesn't agree with them a hate-speaker. Utter nonsense THAT is an absolute disgrace but I'm sort of sorry Ben didn't go in and be arrested then sue those pompous morons for wrongful arrest. I don't agree with some of Ben's comments but he's probably one of the greatest debaters in the world today. LET HIM SPEAK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 interesting interview by a classical liberal with ben shapiro, a harvard grad lawyer, concert violinist at age 12, and non trump fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyezhov Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 2 hours ago, BobBKK said: ANY call to violence should be banned. Simple. No. No. I think that all *insert your favorite hate here* should be taken out and hung like dogs with their bellies slit open. Thats OK. Come on Comrades, drag that bourgeois bastard off the stage and beat him. Thats not if it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyezhov Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 How topical. Perhaps President Trumps order is more needed than one thinks. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/britain-descends-into-misgendering-madness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jerry787 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 trumpo free speech mean allowing nazi skins to racist speeches... this guy its a worldwide disaster... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyezhov Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jerry787 said: trumpo free speech mean allowing nazi skins to racist speeches... Yep. But Whats more of a disaster is shutting down speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 This will get thrown out by the courts. State funded universities are not themselves impeding free speech and cannot impinge on the first amendment rights of their students should they wish to use their free speech rights in protest against others. See this for what it is, another invented crisis for Trump to wind up CULT45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 2 hours ago, pedro01 said: It is generally accepted that calls for voilence are not protected by free speech. Well until recently anyway, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 4 hours ago, Cryingdick said: You are completely out of touch in regards to what goes on in American universities these days, More over what happens on social media such as Tv where news stories are stomped out that reflect conservatives in a favorable light. Notice how around 50% of all news stories here are rages against Trump? Nothing about AOC diving in polls, dems losing popularity, the insanity of the new green deal. It won't be long before websites are held to the same standards of newspapers if they hold their users to providing factual evidence. Right now this is used against conservative members that give opinions and the left leaning posts are left unless directly reported. You can also notice the amount of attacks of a personal nature that aren't allowed by conservatives on somebody like Hillary. 'Completely out of touch' was what you said?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac98 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 7 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said: He is doing this to finally protect the rights of conservative leaning students. There have been way too many violent attacks against students for as little as wearing a red hat. Now it is time for both sides of the debate to be heard, it has been totally one sided for decades now and the country has suffered because of this. Another historic move by Trump, great to see this finally happen. So sayeth a man who likely cheers when Trump urges his supporters to punch and throw out any protester at his rallies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro01 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 36 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: This will get thrown out by the courts. State funded universities are not themselves impeding free speech and cannot impinge on the first amendment rights of their students should they wish to use their free speech rights in protest against others. See this for what it is, another invented crisis for Trump to wind up CULT45. "State funded universities are not themselves impeding free speech" Yes they are - on a fairly wide scale. This is not about protests, this is about administrations finding flimsy excuses to block anyone right of center from speaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyezhov Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mac98 said: So sayeth a man who likely cheers when Trump urges his supporters to punch and throw out any protester at his rallies. What would make you direct an ad hominem like that without even knowing what the poster thinks. Is is possible for any anti Trumper to ever address an argument vis a vis just attacking the poster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyezhov Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, pedro01 said: block anyone right of center from speaking. Ha! Block anyone other than the left you mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 8 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: More hogwash for his base. The First Amendment protects rights of speech in US Government funded universities. It protects Free Speech from ‘Government’ suppression. Individuals have the right to protest against the speech of others. Just like US private universities and colleges have the right, and practice that right, to restrict the access of speakers spreading hate on their campuses. Trump need only refer to the First Amendment, and those who feel they have had their rights to speak restricted by a government agency or employee need only refer to the courts. A total non issue Trump is playing to CULT45. Only it seems that a tactic of the left is to suppress free speech by any whose views they don't like, by violence if necessary whilst claiming any view they don't like as racist, fascist, or hate speech. Then American constitution guarantees the right to free speech. It doesn't AFAIK, say that that speech must be approved by the PC liberals who detest opposing thoughts being spoken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 35 minutes ago, pedro01 said: "State funded universities are not themselves impeding free speech" Yes they are - on a fairly wide scale. This is not about protests, this is about administrations finding flimsy excuses to block anyone right of center from speaking. The left have long tried to drown out other opinions being expressed. They know it it helpful to their goal of a totalitarian state in which only one doctrine is allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 17 minutes ago, Baerboxer said: Only it seems that a tactic of the left is to suppress free speech by any whose views they don't like, by violence if necessary whilst claiming any view they don't like as racist, fascist, or hate speech. Then American constitution guarantees the right to free speech. It doesn't AFAIK, say that that speech must be approved by the PC liberals who detest opposing thoughts being spoken. Evidence?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 15 minutes ago, Baerboxer said: The left have long tried to drown out other opinions being expressed. They know it it helpful to their goal of a totalitarian state in which only one doctrine is allowed. Even if your assertion were right, there is nothing in the Constitution that bans individuals from, how was it youput it, ‘drowning out’ the opinions of others, provided a) they do not do so in the capacity of a government employee, b) they do not do so with violence. a) - Dealt with under the first amendment. b) Dealt with by rafts of laws against violence. #Bone tossed to CULT45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Jerry787 said: trumpo free speech mean allowing nazi skins to racist speeches... this guy its a worldwide disaster... USA permits the American Nazi Party by way of "free speech" - methinks kind of lost the plot long time ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Nazi_Party Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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