graemeaylward Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 I am in Thailand permanently on a non-immigrant "O" visa based on retirement plus extensions for the past 6 years. Up until now I have used the British Embassy income letter route but this year will be using Bangkok Bank statements, showing international transfers of income, and bank letter. Do Immigration keep this paperwork, and if so what safeguards do we have that they will be stored securely and not with something that contains my signature? Do we have any rights under the latest Thai Data Protection Act? I have recently had the experience when copies of 2 ID cards where printed on the back of paperwork given out by Immigration! Sent from my iPad using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabhand Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 I think the answer is in your final sentence, which is similar to my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, graemeaylward said: Data Protection Can you spell please ZERO awareness. Have you ever seen a document shredder at immigration? Me not. Have you ever seen piles of paper files lying around in some corner/spill over cabinets? Me yes. Have you ever had another persons application form on the backside? Me yes. Edited March 22, 2019 by KhunBENQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 21 minutes ago, graemeaylward said: Do Immigration keep this paperwork, it is scanned and stored on their ultra secure servers and the paper is burned. if you believe that, i got some land in Hua Hin you can buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingtlger Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Damn straight they do...at least, that's what they want you to believe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offset Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 I always cross who I give any copy of my passport to so it can only be used for that purpose (2 lines and I write who I an giving it to) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gk10002000 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 They secure nothing, and I have no doubts some people or agencies will overtly be trying to do bad things with the information. I suggest one keep their main account separate from whatever one uses for the deposit account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ThaiBunny Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 hour ago, graemeaylward said: Bangkok Bank statements, showing international transfers of income, and bank letter. Why do you need to present bank statements? Isn't the whole point that Immigration want A letter certifying regular monthly payments, either from your embassy or from your bank. Maybe they'll want to see your bank book, maybe not. That's it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlover Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 20 minutes ago, ThaiBunny said: Why do you need to present bank statements? Isn't the whole point that Immigration want A letter certifying regular monthly payments, either from your embassy or from your bank. Maybe they'll want to see your bank book, maybe not. That's it The plain fact of this is that no one, to my knowledge has done an income based extension without using an embassy letter. Remember that those letter were valid for 6 months and are still being used. Until someone actually gets out there and does so, we're all a bit in the dark. I'm due in August and as the embassy letters will have expired by then I could be one of the 'first footers'. Krungsri assure me that they know what is required, but I do have a plan 'B' just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlS Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, Moonlover said: The plain fact of this is that no one, to my knowledge has done an income based extension without using an embassy letter. Remember that those letter were valid for 6 months and are still being used. Until someone actually gets out there and does so, we're all a bit in the dark. I'm due in August and as the embassy letters will have expired by then I could be one of the 'first footers'. Krungsri assure me that they know what is required, but I do have a plan 'B' just in case. The plain fact is it was impossible to do a retirement extension using monthly income without an Embassy letter or affidavit. An extension based on marriage could be done using Thai income from working evidenced by income tax payment receipts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 (edited) Well those who have done retirement extensions based on money in the bank have always had to submit copies of their bank statements/ book and in my case immigration kept them. They have 8-9 years worth now, and next year they want 12 months worth rather than 3! Stored securely, I doubt it, there must be a dozen containers worth of the stuff every few years. They are giving applicants copies of the latest rules for Extension and, ever environment conscious, they recycle paper they have received. So, on the back of the rules there is usually a copy of some strangers signed passport copy. I have yet to hear of it ever being some guys bankbook! Edited March 23, 2019 by jacko45k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyp Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 20 hours ago, ThaiBunny said: Why do you need to present bank statements? Isn't the whole point that Immigration want A letter certifying regular monthly payments, either from your embassy or from your bank. Maybe they'll want to see your bank book, maybe not. That's it That was my experience last November in Bangkok. I brought my bank statements. They sent me downstairs to get the letter from the bank. They didn’t keep or even look at the bank statements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimSaints Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 I had strangers passports printed on back of my copies when returned from Jomtien IO - its a disaster the way they don't care about ID-theft but as long as it dosent hurt them ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 21 hours ago, KarlS said: The plain fact is it was impossible to do a retirement extension using monthly income without an Embassy letter or affidavit. An extension based on marriage could be done using Thai income from working evidenced by income tax payment receipts. Not anymore. For those that cannot get proof of income from their embassy there is now an option to show monthly transfers into a Thai bank account from abroad for 12 months to prove their income. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlS Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 39 minutes ago, ubonjoe said: Not anymore. For those that cannot get proof of income from their embassy there is now an option to show monthly transfers into a Thai bank account from abroad for 12 months to prove their income. The operative word in my comment was "WAS"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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