Nyezhov Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 1 minute ago, zydeco said: Trump is an odious man, someone who uses every lever of power to reward special interest bankers, war profiteers, and stock market touts, while engaging with porn stars and prostitutes, all the while mocking people who put their lives on the line for the country while he cowered at home. None of that, however, excuses the hyperventilation over this investigation. Yes, the investigation needs to be investigated. Who leaked what to whom. I want to know. I'm more than happy for Trump to hang, if that is the legal judgment. But I want the instigators of this to hang if they did anything wrong, too. That includes the Clintons, Obama, Lynch, Steele, Mueller himself, Comey, and other partisans at the FBI and in the intelligence agencies. Frankly, I think they should build a wall around DC and leave them all to feed on each other. Political post of the Year. A true civil libertarian and a man whose opinions deserve respect (even if wrong) wrote that post. A true Mensch. I am not worthy. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyezhov Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 9 minutes ago, Tug said: Uhh no I dident stab my allies in the guts I dident disrespect pows I dident wretch our crappy healthcare system I dident devide the nation I dident push the tax scam I dident lie and lie and lie so no when is Donald going to apologize to me?? I rest my case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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metisdead Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Some troll posts and the replies have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, Nyezhov said: Really. Well then tell us how the dossier came into being and how it got to the hands of the FBI Sigh..The investigation was initiated based upon an intelligence report by the Australian Ambassador in the UK which was passed onto US authorities. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/30/us/politics/how-fbi-russia-investigation-began-george-papadopoulos.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyezhov Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Just now, simple1 said: Sign..The investigation was initiated based upon an intelligence report by the Australian Ambassador in the UK which was passed onto US authorities. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/30/us/politics/how-fbi-russia-investigation-began-george-papadopoulos.html All righty then, no need to go further, have a great booze free Saturday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becker Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 53 minutes ago, Nyezhov said: Thats fine, thats your political opinion. You are entitled to it. But you arent entitled to hide behind it. There was no collusion and y'all need to apologize to the American people, and to the Trumps. Yes sure , that will happen around the same time you apologize for the HRC Benghazi and private server BS investigations that, unlike the Mueller investigation, led absolutely nowhere. Come on, let's hear it! BTW, even if Mueller has not managed to prove collusion he's still managed to net several of Trump's fellow bottom dwellers and proven once and for all that "draining the swamp' is Trump speak for filling the swamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 51 minutes ago, Nyezhov said: I rest my case. Go back to Russia bot man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Henry Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Even if Trump was indicted and faced a hearing he would get off on the grounds of insanity. That no one can deny not even Trump's Blind supporters.There is hours of TV footage of the idiot rambling, lying, inciting violence, contradicting HIMSELF, and blaming everyone else when he stuffs up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAGA 2020 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 7 hours ago, Prissana Pescud said: another white wash. Another washing of the hands. It is a sad day for US when an investigation concludes that if you have power and influence in US, you are above the law. Another reason why the rest of the world withdraws our support for you. You are now an isolationist economy, so go it alone. Meanwhile China is making friends is on the arise. Fool US. And just like that the Liberal tears begin to fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becker Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, MAGA 2020 said: And just like that the Liberal tears begin to fall. And just like that a poster assumes a second identity just to support the joke of a president. Sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attrayant Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Nyezhov said: And if nothing sticks are you and your lot going to apologize to the American people? If nothing sticks? Do you need a reminder of how corrupt this administration has been, how many Trump confidants have been indicted/charged/convicted/sentenced, and that Trump is already an unindicted co-conspirator? I think Trump is the one who owes the American people an apology for his numerous abandoned promises and laughable "I always hire the best people" shtick. If nothing sticks... please. Trump already looks like a sheep that walked through a bur patch. A confirmation of conspiracy from Mueller would just be one more bur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaidream Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 7 hours ago, simple1 said: There are dozens of sealed indictments arising from the Mueller investigation. You have no idea whatsoever what they allege, plus of course what will be alleged by State level investigations. Nor what the Mueller team have recommended for further action. At this stage you and others are only making assertions based upon assumptions. Absolutely correct- there are ongoing investigations involving Trump in the Southern District of New York. In addition= we have not seen the Mueller report- Trump could also be considered by the Feds as an unindicted co-conspirator or obstructing justice. I want to see the full report- since my tax dollars paid for it and I want all the attachments and investigative documents that go with the report. I don't think Trump himself actually collaborated directly with Russia to get elected but members of his team sure as hell did. Trump is too smart to get involved in a direct collaboration but if he knew and let it go on- it shows that he is certainly no patriot and would sell his soul to the devil. there is the emoluments case against him in which he is enriching himself and his family through the Presidency in direct violation of the US Congress. I agree completely with the House Speaker who does not want to impeach Trump due to the hassle and cost involved. Let's vote the narcissistic megalomaniac out of office and send him back where he belongs- the scrap heap of History. IMO Trump will go down in History as the worst President ever. His foreign policy is a shambles and his domestic policy is a lie. His modus operandi is to continue lying and eventually enough people will believe it. As a human being he is reprehensible. His rhetoric and personal attacks on people- even when they have died show no moral compass. Americans better wake up- because the rest of the World has lost all respect for Trump's vision of America. America cannot go it alone- it is a disaster in the making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attrayant Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Thaidream said: Trump could also be considered by the Feds as an uninfected co-conspirator Definitely infected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydeco Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, Thaidream said: I agree completely with the House Speaker who does not want to impeach Trump due to the hassle and cost involved. Let's vote the narcissistic megalomaniac out of office and send him back where he belongs- the scrap heap of History. IMO Trump will go down in History as the worst President ever. His foreign policy is a shambles and his domestic policy is a lie. His modus operandi is to continue lying and eventually enough people will believe it. As a human being he is reprehensible. His rhetoric and personal attacks on people- even when they have died show no moral compass. Mostly, I think you're correct. But I don't want to see impeachment become nothing more than a weapon used by the side not holding the presidency. If there is something there, yes, impeach and remove. But I don't want to see every presidency commence simultaneously with articles of impeachment. And I don't think Trump is the worst president in history--yet. GW Bush bankrupted the country, led it into a credit bubble and financial catastrophe we still haven't emerged from. And 30 years of US presidents have engaged in a policy of financing and arming our greatest enemy (China) that may yet prove the final stake through the heart of the US. But certainly no president ever that I can think of has proven to be such an abominable human being as Trump. It's one thing for a politician to lie; it's another for a president to glory in lies and brag about them. But Tump is just the cherry on top of three decades of sustained ineptitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmrfudd Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 8 hours ago, Prissana Pescud said: Sad day for democracy when a 2 year investigation sends many minions to jail and fails to find that the bosses of the minions were involved. Power and corruption wins again. Complete nonsense. The entire thing was a sham from the start. Indictment for those who did start this ridiculous process will be very helpful to make sure this never happens to anyone else, no matter what side you are on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmrfudd Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Tug said: Uhh no I dident stab my allies in the guts I dident disrespect pows I dident wretch our crappy healthcare system I dident devide the nation I dident push the tax scam I dident lie and lie and lie so no when is Donald going to apologize to me?? Quite a triggered one here. Do you need a safe space? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usviphotography Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, elmrfudd said: Complete nonsense. The entire thing was a sham from the start. Indictment for those who did start this ridiculous process will be very helpful to make sure this never happens to anyone else, no matter what side you are on. Two years of investigation and not a single person, not even a low level staffer or intern, indicted or convicted of anything relating to collusion with Russia to influence the 2016 Campaign. This entire investigation was a lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attrayant Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, elmrfudd said: Complete nonsense. The entire thing was a sham from the start. More than a dozen have been indicted/charged/convicted/sentenced, so this was anything but a sham. Actual crimes were found and actual criminals punished. 6 minutes ago, elmrfudd said: Indictment for those who did start this ridiculous process will be very helpful to make sure this never happens to anyone else, no matter what side you are on. The US already does a piss-poor job of catching white collar criminals, but you want to make sure it gets even worse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attrayant Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, usviphotography said: Two years of investigation and not a single person, not even a low level staffer or intern, indicted or convicted of anything relating to collusion with Russia to influence the 2016 Campaign. This entire investigation was a lie. You haven't read anything, have you? Trump is an unindicted co-conspirator. That means the only reason he has not been indicted is because of the office he holds. He has done something worthy of an indictment, but won't be indicted because of a technicality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyezhov Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Tug said: Go back to Russia bot man So sad. I know your world is crumbling. You have so put much effort into hating. Its OK, lash out at others to assuage your pain, I can take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyezhov Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, attrayant said: Trump is an unindicted co-conspirator. do you know what that is, in US legal terms? Not that I should expect an honest bebate about the issue with someone who has an avatar like yours. Another one with his life based on Trump hating. But hey, lets cut to the chase, I assume that the following takes care of your unidicted co-conspirator silliness: https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2018/09/07/donald-trump-not-unindicted-coconspirator/BSTHmaIPpmOzRAHP7EyS2H/story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attrayant Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 If you don't like that phrase, then I'll spell it out for you: The SDNY made it clear that “individual 1” directed an illegal campaign finance scheme. That is a crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelsall Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Needs a safe space https://news.grabien.com/story-msnbcs-maddow-appears-emotional-reporting-mueller-not-indict Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Nyezhov said: do you know what that is, in US legal terms? Not that I should expect an honest bebate about the issue with someone who has an avatar like yours. Another one with his life based on Trump hating. But hey, lets cut to the chase, I assume that the following takes care of your unidicted co-conspirator silliness: https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2018/09/07/donald-trump-not-unindicted-coconspirator/BSTHmaIPpmOzRAHP7EyS2H/story.html You should have read before posting: The author declares categorically ..... blah blah blah and then adds 'as far as we know'. Let's just wait a few days until the contents of the report are made public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmrfudd Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 4 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: Maybe they want to read the report before commenting. You've assumed the worst since day one, and I am sure you still will regardless what you read. You made up your mind long ago without any verifiable evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmrfudd Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, attrayant said: If you don't like that phrase, then I'll spell it out for you: The SDNY made it clear that “individual 1” directed an illegal campaign finance scheme. That is a crime. No, it is an allegation. Another one that will disintegrate. But you keep up the resistance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, Kelsall said: Needs a safe space https://news.grabien.com/story-msnbcs-maddow-appears-emotional-reporting-mueller-not-indict Hogwash. But do stay tuned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, elmrfudd said: You've assumed the worst since day one, and I am sure you still will regardless what you read. You made up your mind long ago without any verifiable evidence. Is that coming from TVF's champion of impartiality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyezhov Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, attrayant said: If you don't like that phrase, then I'll spell it out for you: The SDNY made it clear that “individual 1” directed an illegal campaign finance scheme. That is a crime. Your wrong, facutally and legally, but why argue? If you truly beleive in the Umbrella Lady, then no amount of facts, logic and law is going to get you to admit she isnt real. So therefore, feel free to post more phony stuff about Trump. Im starting to realize more and more that people have a lot psychologically invested in this and maybe its best to let them continue since destroying a prop to ones life isnt really a good thing. Poor Chris Matthews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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