rooster59 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Trump's son-in-law Kushner cooperating with U.S. House probe - source By David Morgan and Mark Hosenball FILE PHOTO: White House Senior Adviser Jared Kushner arrives for his appearance before a closed session of the Senate Intelligence Committee as part of their probe into Russian meddling in the 2016 U.S. presidential election, on Capitol Hill in Washington, U.S. July 24, 2017. REUTERS/Jonathan Ernst/Files WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner is cooperating with a wide-ranging probe by the U.S. House Judiciary Committee into Trump and possible obstruction of justice and abuse of power, a person knowledgeable about the matter said on Friday. Just hours earlier, a lawyer for Trump adviser Roger Stone said in a letter seen by Reuters that Stone was not cooperating with the same committee and cited his right to avoid self-incrimination under the Fifth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. The contrasting responses to Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler's probe targeting 81 individuals and groups came on the same day the Justice Department announced the completion of a report by Special Counsel Robert Mueller into Trump and Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election. As a cloud of legal risk darkened over Trump, he was spending the weekend at his private club Mar-a-Lago in Florida. Kushner submitted documents to Nadler's panel on Thursday in response to a wave of document requests sent by the committee on March 4, the knowledgeable person said. Kushner's attorney Abbe Lowell, who received the committee's document request, was not immediately available for comment. Democrats in the House of Representatives have launched numerous inquiries into Trump, his presidency, his family and his business interests. The Mueller investigation has been focused on the election and whether Trump's campaign colluded with Moscow in its effort to sway U.S. voters in Trump's favor. Although Mueller's report is finished, its contents were not yet known late on Friday. Details were expected soon. Russia has denied U.S. intelligence agencies' findings that the Kremlin interfered in the 2016 campaign. Trump has denied any collusion and dismissed Mueller's probe as a "witch hunt." Among the Judiciary Committee's aims are determining if Trump obstructed justice by ousting perceived enemies at the Justice Department and abused his power by possibly offering pardons or tampering with witnesses. It was not clear how much material Kushner provided to the committee. But investigators sought documents from him on more than two dozen topics. Those topics ranged from a June 9, 2016, Trump Tower meeting with a Russian lawyer who claimed to have damaging information about Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton to any Trump transition team contacts with Russia. Stone's lawyer Grant Smith said in the letter to Nadler that Stone faces federal criminal charges and that it "is not in Mr. Stone's best interest" to participate in any other proceedings. Stone was arrested in January and charged with lying to Congress about the 2016 Trump campaign's efforts to use stolen emails to undercut Clinton. Stone declared himself innocent hours after a team of FBI agents raided his home in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. Smith called Nadler's demand for documents a "fishing expedition request." Stone, who is under a gag order from the judge hearing his criminal case, had no comment. -- © Copyright Reuters 2019-03-23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 I wonder if Kushner is "cooperating" in the same manner as Manafort was -- right up until the latter was accused of lying to/misleading prosecutors and ultimately sentenced to prison for his misdeeds after his "cooperation" agreement was voided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laza 45 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 51 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: I wonder if Kushner is "cooperating" in the same manner as Manafort was -- right up until the latter was accused of lying to/misleading prosecutors and ultimately sentenced to prison for his misdeeds after his "cooperation" agreement was voided. ..that is the thing.. if he has agreed to cooperate.. that means EVERYTHING he knows.. no exceptions or he will joining Manafort.. also.. he doesn't know what documents and information they already have.. he will have to be very careful.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usviphotography Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 3 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: I wonder if Kushner is "cooperating" in the same manner as Manafort was -- right up until the latter was accused of lying to/misleading prosecutors and ultimately sentenced to prison for his misdeeds after his "cooperation" agreement was voided. Manafort's sentence (which was about tax stuff relating to decade old lobbying and nothing to do with Trump) was actually significantly less than the prosecutors asked for. The judge clearly put no stock at all in to their claims Manafort wasn't cooperating. Kushner going down would be the best possible thing for Trump, as he is the epicenter of all the problems Trump is having within his Administration. I'd be fine with Trump allowing him to be executed, same as how Mussolini allowed the Germans to execute his own traitorous son in law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, usviphotography said: Manafort's sentence (which was about tax stuff relating to decade old lobbying and nothing to do with Trump) was actually significantly less than the prosecutors asked for. The judge clearly put no stock at all in to their claims Manafort wasn't cooperating. Wrong. The judge who was involved in the non-cooperation issue was not Ellis but Jackson. Judge Ellis called Manafort a model citizen, or something to that effect, which given Manafort's history was truly bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Of course it will never happen but if Javanka and Donald turn on one another, it would be amazing. Even if Donald just believed Javanka had been disloyal to him, it would be fun. It does happen in mob families. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 On the one hand Kushner is cooperating on the other the White House is not. https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/white-house-intent-on-challenging-democrats-request-for-documents-in-probe-of-trump/2019/03/19/7286a74c-4a83-11e9-b79a-961983b7e0cd_story.html?utm_term=.dca461b70857 Be assured, Kushner is not cooperating in order to take the fall for Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Briggsy said: Of course it will never happen but if Javanka and Donald turn on one another, it would be amazing. Even if Donald just believed Javanka had been disloyal to him, it would be fun. It does happen in mob families. Step one Kushner cooperates. I've said all along that Trump will throw anybody under the bus to defend himself, even his own children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, bristolboy said: Wrong. The judge who was involved in the non-cooperation issue was not Ellis but Jackson. Judge Ellis called Manafort a model citizen, or something to that effect, which given Manafort's history was truly bizarre. But we also know Ellis is a republican stooge... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Basil B said: But we also know Ellis was a republican stooge... Not so much a stooge as something of a crank. As you may recall, he apologized to the prosecutors during the Manafort trial: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-manafort-judge/u-s-judge-apologizes-to-prosecutors-in-former-trump-aide-manaforts-trial-idUSKBN1KU1Y7 I tried finding that on foxnews.com. Oddly enough, no mention was made of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 I don't remember/recall will be an often heard phrase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 1 hour ago, usviphotography said: Manafort's sentence (which was about tax stuff relating to decade old lobbying and nothing to do with Trump) was actually significantly less than the prosecutors asked for. The judge clearly put no stock at all in to their claims Manafort wasn't cooperating. Actually, there were/are two different federal court cases with Manafort, two different sentences by two different judges. The first by a male judge who was widely viewed as being partisan leaning Republican who verbally reamed Manafort at one point, but then gave him a light sentence. The second judge, a woman, specifically ruled that Manafort had violated his cooperation agreement and sentenced him in part on the basis of that. https://www.wsj.com/articles/judge-rules-paul-manafort-made-false-statements-in-violation-of-plea-agreement-11550101738 https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/us-judge-finds-paul-manafort-lied-to-mueller-probe-about-contacts-with-russian-aide/2019/02/13/c5209f7a-2f2c-11e9-86ab-5d02109aeb01_story.html?utm_term=.7cf211d9de5b https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-03-08/manafort-caught-sentence-break-but-faces-tougher-judge-next-week https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/13/us/politics/paul-manafort-sentencing.html Quote She stopped short of giving Mr. Manafort the maximum 10-year term that she could have imposed, adding three and a half years to the nearly four-year term Mr. Manafort received last week in a related prosecution in Alexandria, Va. Explaining why she was not harsher, she cited guidelines intended to limit punishment in overlapping cases and the fact that Mr. Manafort’s effort to tamper with witnesses who could testify against him had been “nipped in the bud.” Her attitude stood in stark contrast to that of Judge T. S. Ellis III of United States District Court in Northern Virginia, who said last week that Mr. Manafort had “led an otherwise blameless life” in sentencing him to 47 months for eight felonies, a punishment that some legal experts described as startlingly low. Quote But she said the scale of Mr. Manafort’s crimes was remarkable. “It is hard to overstate the number of lies and the amount of fraud and the amount of money involved,” she said. “There is no question that this defendant knew better and he knew what he was doing.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmrfudd Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said: Step one Kushner cooperates. I've said all along that Trump will throw anybody under the bus to defend himself, even his own children. You've said loads of unfounded biased things in the past 2 years. Why stop now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmrfudd Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Ulic said: I don't remember/recall will be an often heard phrase. Like comey and Hillary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac98 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 5 hours ago, Laza 45 said: ..that is the thing.. if he has agreed to cooperate.. that means EVERYTHING he knows.. no exceptions or he will joining Manafort.. also.. he doesn't know what documents and information they already have.. he will have to be very careful.. He's counting on Trump playing the pardon card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laza 45 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mac98 said: He's counting on Trump playing the pardon card. ..yes.. probably.. it might work.. but.. a pardon is supposed to be for a miscarriage of justice.. a pardon would probably create a legal battle... also.. there is a bunch of unopened sealed indictments held by NYSD .. next week we should find out who wins the lucky draws there .. and.. the State of NY will be examining the business dealings of the lot of them.. no pardons there.. the game is just beginning, I think.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 1 hour ago, elmrfudd said: You've said loads of unfounded biased things in the past 2 years. Why stop now. How on earth would you know, you’ve only been a member since this February. One might suspect you had a previous username but got banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farcanell Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 17 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: How on earth would you know, you’ve only been a member since this February. One might suspect you had a previous username but got banned. Impossible.... I’ve been informed by a very reliable source that that’s strictly against forum rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 4 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: Be assured, Kushner is not cooperating in order to take the fall for Trump. I agree. I would even bet the opposite. "Tu quoque fili mi!" Ah! Ah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Of all people Jared knows the trumps and his dad was a felon he may be trying to save himself or perhaps he is a conduit of info for Donald who knows that whole group of people are slippery grifters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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