Thai voters go to polls as coup-leader, 'democratic front' face off

[zoza]

1 hour ago, canuckamuck said:

This being the hub of both corruption and crazy rumours, there is no way to know.

I have just returned from deepest issarn people coming from all over. three days of celebrations and get togethers and a party, everyone from kids to granny's already determined to vote for their future. it would of been a waste of time sending anyone anywhere near there ,from what every one was saying, even the odd farang had no good  words for the military.  

[robblok]

1 hour ago, sjaak327 said:

 

5555555 and still PT wins the election if the exit poll is to be believed. The democrats lost votes to the Junta party. If this is close to the eventual result, it can only be seen as a huge loss of face for Prayuth. 

 

Not really a surpise of course...

 

Edit to add: according to the nation, those 173 seats are all constiuency seats, and the party would have grabbed 0 party list seats, that cannot be possible. It is save to say, that result will go north of 200 seats. (providing the counting is going to be fair)...

Als a huge loss of face to all the people here who predicted a landslide victory for PTP. If i calculate it its only 34,6% of the votes far less then in previous election. Seems like that they lost quite a few votes too.

Democrats lost a lot too.

 

Will be hard making a coalition that is for sure.

[Eligius]

I find it hard to believe that Future Forward scored so relatively poorly. Most young people I speak to (first-time voters) are quite keen on Thanathorn.

As I have said throughout, there is no reason to believe anything official, elitist bodies and media tell us in Thailand - and every reason NOT to believe them ...

 

[ballpoint]

Just now, Eligius said:

I find it hard to believe that Future Forward scored so relatively poorly. Most young people I speak to are quite keen on Thanathorn.

As I have said throughout, there is no reason to believe anything official bodies and media tell us in Thailand ....

But, the elderly love their same old dinosaurs.

 

One thing different about this election is how civilised this thread is compared to previous elections.  The last few saw vitriolic exchanges, with insults fired back and forth as if the posters were the actual candidates.  Maybe Prayuth did the impossible, and united TV.  Now if only someone could do it for the country.

[donim]

Question:

 

Which party gives the best future perspective for Thailand AND foreigners living in Thailand?

[Eligius]

Just now, donim said:

Question:

 

Which party gives the best future perspective for Thailand AND foreigners living in Thailand?

I would think that would have to be Future Forward - under Thanathorn. He is a true internationalist and progressive.

[Huayrat]

The result was well known before it started .. The 250 appointed senators appointed by prayuth will vote for his party and he wins.. Simple and not Democratic..We are talking about a man here who in no fashion would never have put himself up for the vote if he didn't know he was gonna win.

[Huayrat]

15 minutes ago, robblok said:

Als a huge loss of face to all the people here who predicted a landslide victory for PTP. If i calculate it its only 34,6% of the votes far less then in previous election. Seems like that they lost quite a few votes too.

Democrats lost a lot too.

 

Will be hard making a coalition that is for sure.

Coalition will be easy..

The 250 prayuth appointed senators will vote for him and there ya go.. Result was never in doubt.

[robblok]

6 minutes ago, ballpoint said:

But, the elderly love their same old dinosaurs.

 

One thing different about this election is how civilised this thread is compared to previous elections.  The last few saw vitriolic exchanges, with insults fired back and forth as if the posters were the actual candidates.  Maybe Prayuth did the impossible, and united TV.  Now if only someone could do it for the country.

I am not so happy with the popularity of the military party, I had hoped future forward would have done better. I am pleased though to see that there is a steady decline in PTP votes. After so many years under the army even with the resentment building up (according to members here) they still preformed worse then before. 48% OF votes to now under 35% of votes. Quite a drop. 

 

I guess the Thais are finally seeing though Thaksin. Sad to see that future forward did poorly, and sad that the army did so good. Everyone here said they would not get votes and they got quite a bit.. a second place even. 

 

Will be a lot of problems for whoever wants to make a coalition. 

 

 

[BritManToo]

1 minute ago, robblok said:

After so many years under the army even with the resentment building up (according to members here) they still preformed worse then before. 48% OF votes to now under 35% of votes. Quite a drop. 

You believe the count is accurate?

[NanLaew]

46 minutes ago, sjaak327 said:

Not sure about that, I do know that whatever immigration does to foreigners, is not relevant to what the junta is doing to Thai citizens. 

It was more of an allusion to your inference of the Senate being able to send the government home... oh, never mind.

[robblok]

3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

You believe the count is accurate?

I don't believe in large scale fraud, sorry i left my tinfoil hat at home. Large scale fraud is too hard to pull off and keep hidden.

 

I am not sure about this count of course because its not yet final, but I do believe that this will be close to the actual outcome. 

[donim]

10 minutes ago, Eligius said:

I would think that would have to be Future Forward - under Thanathorn. He is a true internationalist and progressive.

That would be my personal opinion too, unfortunately there is not a lot information online. But this party, came along my residence, and I have found their website very clean and readable ENGLISH, which many other lacks.  Also, they looking forward and broadly, LTBG positive and disabled people positive.

The important is they not write 'kon thai' but 'kon' , people. And 'lok', world.

[NanLaew]

29 minutes ago, zoza said:

I have just returned from deepest issarn people coming from all over. three days of celebrations and get togethers and a party, everyone from kids to granny's already determined to vote for their future. it would of been a waste of time sending anyone anywhere near there ,from what every one was saying, even the odd farang had no good  words for the military.  

Yup, there sure are a lot of us odd farangs in Isaan.

[Grafting Ken]

Long live the Jaunta and the stability they have brought to Thailand.


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[madmitch]

27 minutes ago, Eligius said:

I find it hard to believe that Future Forward scored so relatively poorly. Most young people I speak to (first-time voters) are quite keen on Thanathorn.

As I have said throughout, there is no reason to believe anything official, elitist bodies and media tell us in Thailand - and every reason NOT to believe them ...

 

I think they have done OK, when you consider that it's mainly younger and more progressive voters that are choosing them, It was always going to be difficult to win seats in constituencies where the same parties win year after year.

 

The proportional voting may show a different story as they have finished second in a number of places from what I saw of the results coming in on TV. I wasn't watching avidly and i don't speak Thai, however it's 8 o'clock and of course even the election results programmes stop for the usual programming!

[sambum]

Then I'll get on my knees and pray We don't get fooled again 
No, no! Meet the new boss Same as the old boss

 

(With thanks to Pete Townshend of The Who for his amazing forethought!)

 

[Grafting Ken]

Tie a yellow ribbon round your mango tree and cheer the mighty Thai elite!


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[sambum]

8 minutes ago, Grafting Ken said:

Long live the Jaunta and the stability they have brought to Thailand.


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"Jaunta"? Yes - it has been a bit of a "jaunt" for some! 

[pornprong]

5 minutes ago, robblok said:

I am not so happy with the popularity of the military party, I had hoped future forward would have done better. I am pleased though to see that there is a steady decline in PTP votes. After so many years under the army even with the resentment building up (according to members here) they still preformed worse then before. 48% OF votes to now under 35% of votes. Quite a drop. 

 

I guess the Thais are finally seeing though Thaksin. Sad to see that future forward did poorly, and sad that the army did so good. Everyone here said they would not get votes and they got quite a bit.. a second place even. 

 

Will be a lot of problems for whoever wants to make a coalition. 

 

 

Look at you getting all tumescent at the thought of continued junta rule.

 

You seem to have forgotten that Pheu Thai are only running candidates in 250 of the 350 constituencies (to combat the rigged / gerrymandered system created by the your junta).

 

So, despite running 100 fewer candidates, Pheu Thai are still number one - I'd say that gives a pretty fair indication of what Thais are "finally seeing".

 

As for the praise you are giving the military for coming in second - it is misplaced.

The Democrat Party has crashed.

Good old Mister Integrity himself Abhisit's political career has only one avenue to left - join a Pheu Thai coalition or he is finished (as Suthep already is).

 

Prayuth may still be the PM after the election, but he has well and truly lost and will not be around in 18 months time.

 

Guess it's about time for you to start worshipping Gen. Apirat.

[sambum]

2 minutes ago, Grafting Ken said:

Tie a yellow ribbon round your mango tree and cheer the mighty Thai elite!


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Are you trolling?

[luk AJ]

I am not so happy with the popularity of the military party, I had hoped future forward would have done better. I am pleased though to see that there is a steady decline in PTP votes. After so many years under the army even with the resentment building up (according to members here) they still preformed worse then before. 48% OF votes to now under 35% of votes. Quite a drop. 
 
I guess the Thais are finally seeing though Thaksin. Sad to see that future forward did poorly, and sad that the army did so good. Everyone here said they would not get votes and they got quite a bit.. a second place even. 
 
Will be a lot of problems for whoever wants to make a coalition. 
 
 

If Thai Raksa Party would not have been disqualified the picture would be totally different.


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[NanLaew]

3 minutes ago, robblok said:

I don't believe in large scale fraud, sorry i left my tinfoil hat at home. Large scale fraud is too had to pull off and keep hidden.

 

I am not sure about this count of course because its not yet final, but I do believe that this will be close to the actual outcome. 

Just did a refresh on the EC's exit poll website after my pad krapow dinner and PTP just lost a seat while the PPP gained a couple.

 

Then did a refresh about 10 minutes later and PTP got their lost one back but PPP are down 6.

 

Think I'll wait until May...

[NanLaew]

35 minutes ago, ballpoint said:

... Now if only someone could do it for the country.

Sod this backwater, send the 'miracle maker' to Westminster.

[robblok]

1 minute ago, pornprong said:

Look at you getting all tumescent at the thought of continued junta rule.

 

You seem to have forgotten that Pheu Thai are only running candidates in 250 of the 350 constituencies (to combat the rigged / gerrymandered system created by the your junta).

 

So, despite running 100 fewer candidates, Pheu Thai are still number one - I'd say that gives a pretty fair indication of what Thais are "finally seeing".

 

As for the praise you are giving the military for coming in second - it is misplaced.

The Democrat Party has crashed.

Good old Mister Integrity himself Abhisit's political career has only one avenue to left - join a Pheu Thai coalition or he is finished (as Suthep already is).

 

Prayuth may still be the PM after the election, but he has well and truly lost and will not be around in 18 months time.

 

Guess it's about time for you to start worshipping Gen. Apirat.

You are truly crazy if you read in my post that i like the junta being second. First thing I say is that I am not happy with junta winning. You should REALLY read better. I thought it was clear what i posted. 

 

Yes i like that Thais are waking up and not voting Thaksin, they did a lot worse then in 2011. So you can say what you want far less people voted for them then ever before. yes I think that is a good thing.

 

Its so hard for you to get in that brain of yours that I dislike the PTP and junta. 

 

I am pro future forward.. anti Thaksin and anti junta. 

 

 

[NanLaew]

39 minutes ago, Eligius said:

I would think that would have to be Future Forward - under Thanathorn. He is a true internationalist and progressive.

So what do you reckon he'll do with all these broke, foreign pensioners then?

[GarryP]

11 minutes ago, pornprong said:

Look at you getting all tumescent at the thought of continued junta rule.

 

You seem to have forgotten that Pheu Thai are only running candidates in 250 of the 350 constituencies (to combat the rigged / gerrymandered system created by the your junta).

 

So, despite running 100 fewer candidates, Pheu Thai are still number one - I'd say that gives a pretty fair indication of what Thais are "finally seeing".

 

As for the praise you are giving the military for coming in second - it is misplaced.

The Democrat Party has crashed.

Good old Mister Integrity himself Abhisit's political career has only one avenue to left - join a Pheu Thai coalition or he is finished (as Suthep already is).

 

Prayuth may still be the PM after the election, but he has well and truly lost and will not be around in 18 months time.

 

Guess it's about time for you to start worshipping Gen. Apirat.

I hope you are right about manchild not being around in 18 months. 

[wildewillie89]

Why is the junta popularity such a surprise to people? I don't know how many times I have said on here Thailand is heading to an 'aging population' status. That is exactly where the junta policies hit, the elderly or those heading in that direction. 

The amount of TV members saying every person in Thailand hates the junta was silly and lacked analytical thinking. Maybe if you didn't just focus on women that were the age of your granddaughter you would have realised the older folks were going junta. 

The other point is that polls don't mean all that much. Especially when you have a situation like this in Thailand. You may be criticised for speaking out that you support the junta by the younger folk so you just keep that quiet until you get to the privacy of the ballot box...a bit like many did with Trump. 

[Eligius]

1 minute ago, NanLaew said:

So what do you reckon he'll do with all these broke, foreign pensioners then?

I think a Thanathorn-led Government would show a lot more humanity, respect and compassion towards foreigners living in Thailand - as well, of course, as to Thais in general. I could well imagine Thanathorn scrapping the disgraceful 90-day Reporting (which treats us all like criminals who need to be constantly watched and monitored) ...

[BritManToo]

55 minutes ago, robblok said:

Als a huge loss of face to all the people here who predicted a landslide victory for PTP. If i calculate it its only 34,6% of the votes far less then in previous election. Seems like that they lost quite a few votes too.

222 (173 + 49) seats looks like a victory to me.

(Pheu Thai and Future Forward are both Thaksin)