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BANGKOK 18 April 2019 23:41
Marpa47

Solutions to burning season

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1. Is there sufficient water available to do this in Thailand
2. How labour intensive or expensively mechanised is the turning in or mixing of vegetation process after flooding
3. How long does the flooding process take to complete before replanting of crops compared to burning
4. Does the Philippines carry subsidies for this process and is the entire process comparable in terms of cost to burning

The main reasons for carrying out burning is that it is quick, easy and cheap
These bases need to be covered for any advancement of any methods to be considered here.......



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1 hour ago, Marpa47 said:

Another problem mentioned in another post is that China also burns their crops at the same time as its happening in Thailand. So, perfect storm!

And Cambodia, and Burma, and Laos.

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Regarding the mushrooms issue, I just wrote this in other forum:
Set a traceability.

You can only harvest in the land/forest with a specific government license for that land.

Every day when leaving the land/forest you should report to the officer who weights it and put data in the system - not paper. In addition, put them in a sealed traceable container.

If police catch you with mushrooms without the corresponding daily reports or not in a sealed container or with a seal-broke container, they are confiscated and fine of 100K

To be able to sell in the market or to export you should show the receipts, the sealed container and that be cross checked versus data in the system. If you try to sell/export more than the registered weight or without the sealed container, confiscated and fine 100-300K.

In addition, checkpoints in the access to the burt lands/forests. If catch with mushrooms from there fine 500K and prison.

In my country they're doing something similar since a few years ago, and they've significantly reduced the mushroom mafias.

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12 hours ago, worgeordie said:

Up here in Chiang Mai. it's the forests that are burning,

the villagers burn the undergrowth,so when the raining

season starts,its makes it easier for them to find mushrooms,

which are popular and expensive in both Thailand and China.

Thailand could declare picking and selling these mushrooms illegal, enforcing this is much easier than catching people who start a fire in the middle of the night.

 

A general lack of law enforcement is of course a main reason why people are burning. From what i've seen when driving around here in Udon they don't burn too much, but in the Isaan provinces a bit further in the south like Khon Kaen, Chaiyaphum Phetchabun and so on you see fires as soon as it's after 5pm and the majority of police officers have stopped working. You don't even need to leave the big roads to see fields in flames and people burning their trash right next to the street. Would be really easy to catch these people, but the few police officers who have night shift just don't care.

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Solutions:
 
1. suicide: permanent, low-cost, cheap and messy will vary with method. possible  collateral damage  to others.
 
2. relocation: expensive, a hassle, may or may not be permanent.
 
3. psychotic break: cost, hassle, mess, dependent on flavor; extreme denial may be least costly. possible collateral damage to self and others depending on degree of paranoia and extreme behavior.
 
4. suck it up: effective, but troubling. psychosis may result unless practitioner has a sense of humor.
 
5. surround yourself with air-cleaners, and don't go outside: expensive, may lead to terminal boredom, or chagrin when you find out you are dying anyhow.
 
Please respond with other strategies I may have missed ...
 
~o:37;

Excellent post from a long-time resident with a broader if sometimes very idiosyncratic way of looking at things still tempered by thought and experience.


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For the lowdown on the whys and wherefors of the air pollution problems in Chang Mai, Chang Rai and surrounding areas, I recommend this excellent, comprehensive guide. It also provides practical, detailed advice on how to avoid becoming a victim of the dangerous pollutants.

 

https://www.thethailandlife.com/chiang-mai-burning-season

 

Not mentioned in an otherwise excellent and detailed guide is the contribution made to local air pollution by traditional tribes of nomadic subsistence farmers, who employ old-fashioned slash-and-burn farming techniques.

 

Other than "eco tourism" this the primary survival option for tribes like the Hmong and Karen who have been part of the local "scenery" for decades - often living in makeshift villages without essentials such as a running water or electricity or medical and educational facilities.

 

I learned a little of their plight from my elder daughter, who recently led a group of volunteers from Chiang Mai University to help build a better water supply system for a tribal village which  nestles on a hillside overlooking their campus.

 

Successive Thai governments have attempted to resettle some hill farmers - whom they accuse of "destroying" national forests - to lowland regions. But all too often these schemes have led to social and economic difficulties and cause more problems than they solve.

 

 

 

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