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BANGKOK 25 June 2019 08:50
attrayant

Let's hear from you retirement extension vikings @ chaengwatthana: getting in and out AFAP

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Hopefully that title made sense.

 

I'll be going to CW in a couple of weeks to extend my retirement for another year.  I did the last two at Roi Et, so the first thing I'll need to do when I get there is an address change.  I already picked up the TM30 for that a few weeks ago.  I see the TM30 is all for the housemaster to fill out, so nothing much for me to do there except carry it along with me.

 

I plan to be standing at the Kasikorn Bank on location in Government Complex when they open at 8:30.  Seeing as how they're right there in the same building as immigration, they presumably do this bank funds letter a dozen times a day and therefore should be able to crank that out fast.  I plan to be out of there by 9 and then go upstairs to immigration to get my queue number for the address change.  Not sure how long that will take.

 

Then it's off to section L for the retirement extension.  These are reportedly the easiest kinds of extensions to do as long as I've got my bank register and same-day-dated letter, so I hope to be out of there before lunch.

 

Does this seem like a reasonable goal?

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Two things, based on my experience at CW last week:  1) Don't you also want to get a re-entry permit in the event you leave Thailand anytime in the next year.  Can't get a number for that until you have done the extension.  2) I was concerned about not having done a TM30, the issue never came up.  Appears CW does not enforce this, or maybe just selectively.

 

I got to CW at 8:30, K Bank letter was painless.  But still I was not out the door until 2:30 with extension and re-entry permit.

 

Talked to another guy who got there to stand in line at 0530 to get a jump on everything.  He completed his extension by 0930, by the time he got his re-entry he was probably out by around noon.  That scheme did not appear to save any time.

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13 minutes ago, setbkk said:

Don't you also want to get a re-entry permit in the event you leave Thailand anytime in the next year.

 

From other discussions here, this is easily obtained at the airport on the way out.  But traveling exhausts me so I rarely do it.  I haven't been out of Thailand in five years.

 

14 minutes ago, setbkk said:

I was concerned about not having done a TM30, the issue never came up.  Appears CW does not enforce this, or maybe just selectively.

 

I went there a few weeks ago with a friend and while I was there took the opportunity to ask the queue ticket lady for the handout that lists the new rules for retirement extensions.  Coincidentally, she said she used to work at the "L" desk which are the officers who do the retirement extensions. I wonder what she was doing at the queue ticket desk - that seems like a demotion.

 

She ask for my passport even though I told her I wasn't there to do the extension that day, and she noticed my last extension was done in Roi Et.  She snapped it closed and handed it back to me saying "do address change first".

 

Did you have to make a small deposit or withdrawal into your account that morning to show current activity?  I had heard some machines won't update the passbook/register if there's nothing new to report.

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Be careful as some have experienced aggravation on the issue of properly submitting TM 30 and supporting documents. Also TM 28.

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11 minutes ago, R123 said:

Be careful as some have experienced aggravation on the issue of properly submitting TM 30 and supporting documents. Also TM 28.

 

What was source of the aggravation, do you remember?  Since the TM30 is filled out by somebody who won't even be with me (and it will likely be filled out in Thai), I'm not sure how I'll be able to account for its contents.

 

The supporting documents are a copy of the housemaster's ID card and copy of his house book.  Originals not needed.   I don't know if these copies need to be signed, so I'll have two of each - one signed and one not.

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Don't worry about tm30 CW does not ask for it. You need to do change of address tm28. Have it all filled on before hand. Walk straight past area where people collect and fill out form. Get your que #, than walk to bank area. They will charge you maybe 200baht and also make a deposit of say 100baht. Give it to lady doing your letter. They do it often and know what you require. You may need lease, most likely you don't have one. CW seem to be requiring map of where you live. This in newish. You most likely know other docs needed such as photocopy of required passport pages etc.

I don't know why anyone gets the reentry at CW. The airport is a breeze.

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16 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Don't worry about tm30 CW does not ask for it. You need to do change of address tm28.

 

Then I am puzzled as to why they handed me a TM30 form when I was there.  I guess I will have both filled out and ready.

 

16 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

You may need lease, most likely you don't have one.

 

You're right, I don't have one since I live with my inlaws.

 

16 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

CW seem to be requiring map of where you live. This in newish.

 

Thanks for that.  I'll print out a google map just in case.

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i usually get a queue number for the L desk around 9:15 (after getting my foreign currency bank book updated downstairs, i get the letter the previous day).  i've done two extensions at the L desk plus i did a 'move stamp to new passport' at the L desk (same queue/wait system).  2 out of the 3 i made it out before the lunch break.  the other time i didn't and got my passport back about 1:30-1:45.

 

i go back a second time to get my re-entry permit.  i know some people can't understand this for whatever reason.  for me, i can't handle spending anymore time at CW.  a few hours is plenty for me.  when i've gone back another time for the re-entry permit, it hasn't taken more than an hour (i arrive around 9:15).  my life in bkk is typically a nightlife so my days are wide open for activities.  i don't really enjoy going to CW for the lengthy L-desk process but a separate trip there to the C desk for a re-entry permit is not a problem.  i do MRT-taxi to get there, taxi-MRT to get back.

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6 hours ago, attrayant said:

 

What was source of the aggravation, do you remember?  Since the TM30 is filled out by somebody who won't even be with me (and it will likely be filled out in Thai), I'm not sure how I'll be able to account for its contents.

 

The supporting documents are a copy of the housemaster's ID card and copy of his house book.  Originals not needed.   I don't know if these copies need to be signed, so I'll have two of each - one signed and one not.

My experience: I had been led to believe that at CW I did not need to have the supporting documentation that you mention.

But when I went there I was almost shouted at and told to provide the documentation and complete the forms in detail. You have it seems what is needed so you ought to be ok. 

Remember right or not a tenant is sometimes being foisted with the obligation associated with TM 30.

 

I can only relate my experiences; others may be treated differently.

 

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I went to CW on day of arrival last month to convert tourist to non-o based on retirement and file TM30 (own my condo). Had all docs, letter from bank etc. Visa number came up first so went to C desk. Female IO barked at me "Where's your TM30?" Showed her completed form and she insisted I filed TM30 before she would start visa conversion. I'll go back for non-o retirement extension next month so will be prepared. 

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22 hours ago, attrayant said:

 

What was source of the aggravation, do you remember?  Since the TM30 is filled out by somebody who won't even be with me (and it will likely be filled out in Thai), I'm not sure how I'll be able to account for its contents.

 

The supporting documents are a copy of the housemaster's ID card and copy of his house book.  Originals not needed.   I don't know if these copies need to be signed, so I'll have two of each - one signed and one not.

If they do ask for it you will be responsible, as a minimum, to have a copy of it or fill one out yourself.

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In 3 years of renewals of Extension of Stay, I've never once been asked for a TM30, and I've never had my landlord fill out one either. I always present a copy of my most recent rental receipt and a copy of my lease, but that's all. Has something changed, and should I anticipate an issue with this when I renew next July?

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10 minutes ago, Bangkok Basha said:

In 3 years of renewals of Extension of Stay, I've never once been asked for a TM30, and I've never had my landlord fill out one either. I always present a copy of my most recent rental receipt and a copy of my lease, but that's all. Has something changed, and should I anticipate an issue with this when I renew next July?

 

Have any of your previous extensions been done in a different immigration division?  My last two were at Roi Et, so they (at CW) are obviously going to see that I have moved.  I'd be surprised if they don't expect to see a TM30 (or TM28... still not sure what the diff is).

 

[edit] I've just looked over the two forms and the TM28 appears to be MY report to immigration that I live in place XYZ.  TM30 appears to be my Landlord's report to immigration that I live in place XYZ.  Why they just couldn't add an extra line for Landlord to sign at the bottom of the TM28, I have no idea.  Why do a job with one form when you can do it with two, right?

 

 

 

 

 

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DO not forget to deposit 100 bht when you go to the bank, the IO will 

send you back, to do same............ 

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