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Barbra Streisand FINALLY issues a full apology for defending friend Michael Jackson

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Barbra Streisand FINALLY issues a full apology for defending friend Michael Jackson

By LAUREN FRUEN and STEPHANIE HANEY

 

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Barbra Streisand, 76, told British newspaper The Times that the two main subjects of documentary 'Leaving Neverland,' adults Wade Robson and James Safechuck, 'were thrilled to be there' as children and whatever happened to them 'didn't kill them'

 

Barbra Streisand has finally issued a full apology for defending friend Michael Jackson after claiming his two accusers 'wanted to be there'.

 

The legendary singer and actress, 76,  sparked an angry backlash Saturday after saying Jackson's 'sexual needs were his sexual needs' in a bizarre interview.

 

Following the outrage she then issued a statement which appeared to continue to blame the boys' parents.  

 

But the Oscar winner later posted a separate statement on Twitter which went far beyond her earlier words in which she elaborated on her published remarks saying she was 'profoundly sorry'.

 

Full Story: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6844941/Barbra-Streisand-FINALLY-issues-apology-defending-friend-Michael-Jackson.html

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What were the boys’ parents thinking when they would leave them unattended like that overnight?


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I haven’t read there is any evidence to support the allegations and one of the alleged victims gave sworn testimony that he had not suffered abuse.

 

Now MJ is long dead and cannot offer a defense.

 

And the alleged victims stand to make considerable damages, which is a motive to lie.

 

We live today in a culture that says the alleged victim is always right. Actually they don’t even say alleged, there is a default assumption any accusation is true.

 

Ofcourse, we all think MJ is a strange duck and so its easy for us to believe this but has there ever been any other corroborating evidence? Any other alleged victims stepping forward? Any diary from either boy? They never told anyone? That would sure help if they had anything at all to support their allegations. Something more than some TV program looking for ratings.

 

And there really is the question of why the boys own parents never once were concerned of foul play?

 

 

 

 

 

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He's dead, they got paid, they need more money so they give it a second kicking. No sympathy for them, sue them for 100m and case closed.

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If MJ was 100% innocent of ever touching a child, I still say he has been labeled correctly as a pedophile. You do not get to act like that and no be "guilty" in the public eye.

 

Bottom line, he was a pedophile, just like anybody would be if they admitted to sleeping with children. Best case scenario for MJ is he had horrendously poor judgement and for some reason he could not control his actions and behaviors around children. If you can't control yourself around children, and somehow manage to even admit to sleeping with them on national tv, then that is it... you are done. It is over at that point. Courts are different, but he was a pedophile.

 

Of course the new documentary presents the worst case scenario, and if you ask me the stories are quite compelling. You have the parents essentially ruining their lives in the documentary. If you have not seen it, watch it before you make up your mind. 

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If MJ was 100% innocent of ever touching a child, I still say he has been labeled correctly as a pedophile. You do not get to act like that and no be "guilty" in the public eye.
 
Bottom line, he was a pedophile, just like anybody would be if they admitted to sleeping with children. Best case scenario for MJ is he had horrendously poor judgement and for some reason he could not control his actions and behaviors around children. If you can't control yourself around children, and somehow manage to even admit to sleeping with them on national tv, then that is it... you are done. It is over at that point. Courts are different, but he was a pedophile.
 
Of course the new documentary presents the worst case scenario, and if you ask me the stories are quite compelling. You have the parents essentially ruining their lives in the documentary. If you have not seen it, watch it before you make up your mind. 


I agree its easy to believe he was child molester and I sure don’t say that is OK, but I just think its a dangerous environment when completely unsubstantiated allegations can be made that actually are the opposite of sworn testimony and nobody is saying thats not how American Justice works.
Nobody is skeptical or critical in this, its just hop on social media and say things that will get “likes”.
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There seem to be alot of MJ apologists out there. Granted, the parents were a bit much to let their sons spend so much time with him. But, does a normal, healthy, non devious man sleep with young boys? And why did anyone think this behavior was "normal" or acceptable?


I could care a less about MJ as an individual but I liked the Jackson Five. The expression apologist is either a way for those who use the expression to simplify things to a level they can understand or a way to marginalize and belittle.

I just wonder why no one wver stops for a moment and says, hey if they can tear this person down with no evidence and only accusation then that means they are setting up an environment where they can do the same to me or my sons or any male in my family.

Shouldn’t there be some concern that the new claims made by one of these guys is exactly the opposite of his sworn testimony? Does that not deserve even a small amount of hesitation?

Why were the parents so convinced that no assault was taking place that they had no concern allowing the Neverland sleepovers to occur?

Why is there not even one other alleged victim coming forward and saying this happened to me too? Or the usual types of actual evidence used in criminal investigations to support a claim such as friends/family saying the boys mentioned this to me at the time or they journaled it at the time?

I am not apologizing or making excuses for MJ. I am saying that when accusations are made and accepted by all members of a society without one shred of evidence that no member of society is safe from it happening to them.

I mentioned a victim advocacy group in an earlier message that highlights the dangers of always believe the victim and do not give the accused the chance to even replay.

A woman contracted with a man to provide her with a “spiritual massage” that included rubbing coconut oil over her fully naked body. When it was over she sent him a text thankyou saying how much she enjoyed it.

In the days following, she decided that he touched her in ways that made her uncomfortable and accused him of sexual assault.

Can you see the danger of accepting her story? Can you see maybe a few shortcomings with her accusation? Like why didn’t she speak up at the time and say this makes me uncomfortable? Or maybe she could put on some clothing? Lol.

So my concern is with a society that now accepts alleged victim statements without any burden of proof and when they contradict earlier statements that spoke approvingly and never gave even a hint of wrong-doing.

That is what my position is. If you can offer counterpoint to that then great but if you are going to insist on framing this as a MJ apologist then that is just a strawman construct.

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I guess part of what bothered me about this is that Barbara Streisand got attacked for defending her dead friend who was being attacked. Thats a character attribute where I come from.

 

It used to be that society would take context into account when someone said something disagreeable and if it was someone defending a friend then that loyalty had some merit even if there was disagreement. Especially when they are as old as Barbara. What harm was she doing?

 

I suppose she would have been better off when asked to comment to say MJ was her dear friend for many years and she had no further comment.

 

Although even that would probably be unacceptable to a social media victim society that insists everyone jump on their platform or else.

 

But as I look closer into this MJ history, I see there were more than just these two accusers over the years and that is some evidence that lends credibility to these more recent allegations.

 

One thing is certain...MJ was one strange dude.

Being cast into stardom as a little kid can sure do some damage. I am sure glad I was just an average kid.

 

 

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19 hours ago, ShortTimed said:

What were the boys’ parents thinking when they would leave them unattended like that overnight?


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Oh, maybe they were thinking what a wonderful experience for our son--in that wonderful place associating with that mega star. 

 

If they were wondering how much money they could get from Jackson for selling their sons for sex; I think they waited too long. 

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Oh, maybe they were thinking what a wonderful experience for our son--in that wonderful place associating with that mega star. 

 

If they were wondering how much money they could get from Jackson for selling their sons for sex; I think they waited too long. 

 

Maybe they were thinking what a wonderful experience for our son—in that wonderful place sleeping in the same bed with and snuggling up with that mega-star.

 

Yeah...sure.

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4 hours ago, ShortTimed said:

 

Maybe they were thinking what a wonderful experience for our son—in that wonderful place sleeping in the same bed with and snuggling up with that mega-star.

 

Yeah...sure.

So, you're convinced the parents were letting Jackson have sex with their children. Hmmm. So, Jackson had parental consent?

 

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