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BANGKOK 21 May 2019 21:43
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Returning from UK Holiday TM30 Requirements

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I am a British Citizen married and living in our own house in Udonthani which I have a Superficies for life (obtained a long time ago) registered on the Title Deed and I also have a Yellow House Book. On the 28th June we arrive back in Suvarnabhumi Airport from a UK holiday and we will stay then 1 night in the Airport Novotel Hotel to relax before travelling back to Udonthani on the 29th June. My question is do we still need to fill out a TM30 form. or is it sufficient that the Hotel does this?

 

Many thanks in advance for any advice.

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As far as I know Udon Thani immigration want a TM30 form filed after you return from a trip out of the country.

Staying at a hotel will will not negate that requirement.

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Lived in UT for 18 years at same address, the last 7 after retiring on a marriage extension. Filled in a TM30 when my work ended and I changed to an extension based on marriage. Been out of the country numerous times since (using the same passport) as well as staying in Thai hotels from time to time. Never been asked by Udon Thani immigration at the time of my yearly extension application as to why I never re-filed a TM30 or for that matter never been questioned about not doing so since the original one 7 years ago.

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1 hour ago, vibration said:

My question is do we still need to fill out a TM30 form. or is it sufficient that the Hotel does this?

The hotel are supposed to report your stay, and when you arrive back home someone is supposed to report your arrival/stay.

 

Your movements are tracked by someone reporting your arrival at every property you stay at. However, the strict enforcement of this law varies between offices.

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What is this about if you stay away from home for less than 14 days you don't need to do it? 

Is there a complete source of information for this somewhere? 

Thank you in advance 🙏

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Yes you have to do it. At arrival from a holiday out of Thailand you will receive a new arrival card with a new number. This number has to be written on your TM47 (90d report). So at immigration they can see, without any problem, you left the country. To avoid problems you better go to immigration and make a new TM30. As written: all offices are different but this is the rule.

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2 hours ago, pogal said:

What is this about if you stay away from home for less than 14 days you don't need to do it? 

That may of been stated at one immigration office but there is no written rule for it.

Every office has their own policies about TM30 reporting. Many state you only need to do a report if you change addresses.

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We to have yellow book as well as Thai Id card issued with yellow book as we always come back to the address in the yellow book have never been asked to fill in TM30 when you fill in card on aircraft you have to put your address on it that would be the one on your yellow book I would assume . I often ask myself where the hell all this paperwork is stored by IMO there has to be a much better system than just wasting paper all the time .

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12 minutes ago, crazykopite said:

I often ask myself where the hell all this paperwork is stored by IMO there has to be a much better system than just wasting paper all the time .

There is online reporting if you can get registered for it. Hotels and etc use it.

.https://extranet.immigration.go.th/fn24online/

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Prior to my last departure I checked with Udon Imm whether a new TM30 was required on my return. Was told not necessary if returning to the same property.

That said it may pay you to check as a new officer = new requirement. 

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1 hour ago, ubonjoe said:

That may of been stated at one immigration office but there is no written rule for it.

Every office has their own policies about TM30 reporting. Many state you only need to do a report if you change addresses.

Hi Joe,

 

As a PR holder there is a written rule in the Red Police Book

 

Win

 

 

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2 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

That may of been stated at one immigration office but there is no written rule for it.

Every office has their own policies about TM30 reporting. Many state you only need to do a report if you change addresses.

Is that not the TM28 form? When addresses change

 

  • Forms for Aliens to Notify their Change of Address or Stay in a Province for more than 24 hours (TM.28)
  • Notification Form for House Master, Owner or the Possessor of the Residence where Aliens have stayed (TM.30)

If I am right, the information regarding registration and notification is in law articles 37 and 38.

That is just the law, as you already said every office has their own policy.

So they are not following the written rules. 🤐 Good, easier. CW not need them, until..

 

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1 hour ago, Kan Win said:

As a PR holder there is a written rule in the Red Police Book

That is for your house book registry done at an Amphoe.

The TM30 reporting and etc do not apply to you.

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1 hour ago, donim said:

Is that not the TM28 form? When addresses change

 

  • Forms for Aliens to Notify their Change of Address or Stay in a Province for more than 24 hours (TM.28)
  • Notification Form for House Master, Owner or the Possessor of the Residence where Aliens have stayed (TM.30)

If I am right, the information regarding registration and notification is in law articles 37 and 38.

That is just the law, as you already said every office has their own policy.

So they are not following the written rules. 🤐 Good, easier. CW not need them, until..

 

This is very confusing.  I see three different scenarios plus the differences in IOs.

1.  You stay in a different province for 25 hours 

2.  You travel outside of the country and come back after a period of time. 

3.  You actually fully move to a different address. 

With 1. you need a TM28 but not a TM30? or is that determined by the amount of time?

With 2. you need only a TM30? or is that determined by time?

With 3. you definitely need a TM30?

 

Or do I have this totally wrong?

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