Pheu Thai claims right to form govt

[webfact]

Pheu Thai claims right to form govt

By Kas Chanwanpen 
The Nation 

 

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Party stitches together coalition of six parties, says poll results point to a rejection of Prayut.

 

THE PHEU THAI Party has reportedly put together a coalition of six parties including Future Forward, Seri Ruam Thai, New Economics, Prachachart and Puea Chat to stake its claim to form a government with a total of over 250 seats in the Lower House.

 

Pheu Thai, which won the most number of seats in the election, yesterday claimed legitimacy to form the government, arguing the mandate was a rejection of premier Prayut Chan-o-cha continuing in office.

 

With 95 per cent of ballots counted, Pheu Thai has won 137 constituency seats against the 118 of the pro-junta Phalang Pracharat Party, which however secured the most number of votes.

 

“It should be deemed that Pheu Thai won the people’s mandate to run the country,” the party said in a statement yesterday. 

 

“Combined with the seats of parties that have always been clear about opposing the junta, we have more than 250 MPs and our total votes are 6 million more than what the pro-junta camp has gained,” it said. 

 

The party said the electorate had delivered a clear message that the majority of people did not want General Prayut, who staged a military coup in 2014, to continue as prime minister. The coup led by Prayut had led to the toppling of the Pheu Thai-led government under Yingluck Shinawatra. 

 

“Hence, it is against the will of the majority for parties to support General Prayut,” the statement read. “The [Prayut] coalition subsequently will not be accepted, become unstable, and will not be able to solve economic and other issues.”

 

 

Meanwhile, the pro-junta Phalang Pracharat, which won the popular vote with 7.9 million, yesterday expressed confidence about forming a coalition, saying it had already had begun discussions on putting together a coalition with likeminded parties. It also insisted on reinstalling Prayut as premier to lead the post-election government.

 

“Since announcing that we’re ready to lead the coalition, we’re making good progress but we’re also waiting to see the official election results from the Election Commission,” said its secretary-general Sontirat Sontijirawong. 

 

He said negotiations with other parties had been positive, but it was too soon to discuss Cabinet positions.

 

Questioned whether Phalang Pracharat had the legitimacy to lead the government, Sontirat said if it could get the most number of votes, then that was true legitimacy.

 

Sontirat also admitted the party had approached Bhumjaithai Party to join its coalition. But while it said Pheu Thai had offered Bhumjaithai the top job, Sontirat insisted Phalang Pracharat was determined to ensure the PM position goes only to Prayut.

 

Pheu Thai secretary-general Phumtham Wehcayachai also made it clear that the party supports Khunying Sudarat Keyuraphan to be its prime minister candidate and this is not a point of discussion to form a coalition.

 

With swing parties supporting one of the two camps hoping to successfully form the next government, the Democrat Party made clear its stance against joining the pro-Shinawatra camp.

 

Prayut ‘not involved’

 

Democrat deputy leader Korn Chatikavanich, whose party won 55 seats in Sunday’s general election according to unofficial results, on Monday posted on his Facebook page that he had not held discussions with any bloc about forming the next government.

 

“Now there are many rumours. Don’t pay attention to it. For me, it’s impossible to support Pheu Thai [to form the next government],” he posted.

 

His party’s decision about joining any camp would be clearer when its executives meet and come to a resolution on the matter, Korn added.

 

Meanwhile, Bhumjathai, the unofficial winner of 52 seats and seen as the most powerful swing party as it could join either the Shinawatra camp or the pro-junta camp led by the Phalang Pracharat Party, remained silent yesterday.

 

A source from the party denied that its leader, Anutin Charnvirakul, had met with Defence Minister and Deputy Prime Minister Prawit Wongsuwan at a military barracks to talk about forming a coalition government. 

 

Prime Minister Prayut yesterday distanced himself from the ongoing struggle to form a coalition, saying it does not concern him as the current prime minister.

 

After the election, the junta chief said the focus had now been shifted to holding the coronation ceremony coming up in early May.

 

However, Prayut yesterday did mention “hopes and dreams” at least twice. Borrowing the idea from a book whose title he said he could not remember, Prayut said hopes and dreams are like a kite. 

 

“You cannot just let them fly in the air. You need a good string to fly them or they’ll be gone,” Prayut added metaphorically without elaborating. 

 

Prayut also announced yesterday that this Friday, he would be presenting the last of his TV monologues “The King’s Philosophy” where he mostly talked about the government achievements.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/politics/30366597

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2019-03-27

[YetAnother]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

to stake its claim to form a government with a total of over 250 seats in the Lower House.

sure hope that happens,might be hope for thailand after all; army has no place governing a country

[kingstonkid]

Future Forward just killed their party.

 

Now instead of a new fresh face, they have relegated themselves to Thaksin lapdog kiss A$$.

 

While I agree they could not stay with the PPP the smart thing for them would have been to tell both sides to go take a jump.

 

Lead if you want but when you want something passed you have to come to me.

 

FF could have been the Future now they are just a part of the past.

 

They have proven the old adage that anyone can run for election it is what you do after election that counts and they have shown that they have or had no plan other than to kiss Thaksin and worship at his feet.

 

SAD DAY FOR THAILAND

 

 

[yellowboat]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Borrowing the idea from a book whose title he said he could not remember, Prayut said hopes and dreams are like a kite. 

 

“You cannot just let them fly in the air. You need a good string to fly them or they’ll be gone,” Prayut added metaphorically without elaborating.

Those strings are the chains put on the Thai people.  He should "go fly a kite", and let non military people run the country.

[OneMoreFarang]

Never again!

[steven100]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Meanwhile, the pro-junta Phalang Pracharat, which won the popular vote with 7.9 million, yesterday expressed confidence about forming a coalition, saying it had already had begun discussions on putting together a coalition with likeminded parties. It also insisted on reinstalling Prayut as premier to lead the post-election government.

Well done.

[soalbundy]

That's just a recipe for another coup or a trumped up charge for the court to ban it.

[hansnl]

2 hours ago, YetAnother said:

sure hope that happens,might be hope for thailand after all; army has no place governing a country

Might be hope for Thailand?

You mean hope for TS and YS and the rest of the clan to be able to continue bleeding the country for their own profit?

[JoePai]

14 minutes ago, hansnl said:

Might be hope for Thailand?

You mean hope for TS and YS and the rest of the clan to be able to continue bleeding the country for their own profit?

Anything is better than the "Generals" in charge - of this or any other country. At least under TS people were better off and happier

[robblok]

Seems the PTP still has not have enough allies, 250 is not enough. Not if they want to name a PM.

 

But let them have their government, they are the biggest party. They will be severely limited in corruption as everyone will be watching. 

 

With future forward as a partner they will have to behave better then normal. They might even do some good.

[Henryford]

I admit i don't really understand the thai election system but doesn't the 250 posts in the Senate (appointed by PPP) mean that they are always going to win any election battle.

[newatthis]

1 hour ago, hansnl said:

Might be hope for Thailand?

You mean hope for TS and YS and the rest of the clan to be able to continue bleeding the country for their own profit?

And, of course, they, who are in now, are pure as the driven snow

[Eric Loh]

1 hour ago, hansnl said:

Might be hope for Thailand?

You mean hope for TS and YS and the rest of the clan to be able to continue bleeding the country for their own profit?

You meant the country is not bleeding now? The junta has almost emptied the treasury reserves. Debts private and public are growing. If they stay any longer, we may end up like Greece. 

[nong38]

Nice picture of Charles Atlas there. "Don't let anyone kick sand in my face."

[lipflipper]

If there had been doubts about the Young Turk being a clone of his idol Taksin this taking up with his party should remove all doubt. He is nothing more than a stooge and will do his best to get Taksin back into Thailand. His tuccus needs to be shown the door before he can any real damage to Thailand.

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[BritManToo]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

With 95 per cent of ballots counted, Pheu Thai has won 137 constituency seats against the 118 of the pro-junta Phalang Pracharat Party, which however secured the most number of votes.

Hardly surprising as there were 2x more votes cast than voters.

 

Prayut shouts at the EC, "You idiots, you were supposed to throw away the people's votes, not count them as well!"

[KhunKenAP]

Warm up the tanks.

[Dogmatix]

Pheua Thai led government is likely to generate a coup in mid 2021 and the army chief will be able to segue smoothly into the PM role on his retirement in Sept 2021 just like his predecessor. The army chief job is too good to give up before retirement.

[Dogmatix]

Uncle 2 will probably not enjoy being PM with a thin or negative majority and no Section 44. But having a robust opposition would hopefully curb his some of his excesses repression of freedom of expression and buying expensive and unnecessary military toys. One can but hope.

[malibukid]

4 hours ago, kingstonkid said:

Future Forward just killed their party.

 

Now instead of a new fresh face, they have relegated themselves to Thaksin lapdog kiss A$$.

 

While I agree they could not stay with the PPP the smart thing for them would have been to tell both sides to go take a jump.

 

Lead if you want but when you want something passed you have to come to me.

 

FF could have been the Future now they are just a part of the past.

 

They have proven the old adage that anyone can run for election it is what you do after election that counts and they have shown that they have or had no plan other than to kiss Thaksin and worship at his feet.

 

SAD DAY FOR THAILAND

 

 

i think this is good since FF can establish a foothold in politics.

[Baerboxer]

5 hours ago, YetAnother said:

sure hope that happens,might be hope for thailand after all; army has no place governing a country

 

Every Shin owned government has gone the same way: loads of promises, then the lies, then the thieving, threats to the courts and protesters, more lies and eventually, when it all gets too much a coup.

 

Why do you think another Thaksin government, with another Thaksin government might be hope for Thailand?

[BritManToo]

5 hours ago, kingstonkid said:

Future Forward just killed their party.

Now instead of a new fresh face, they have relegated themselves to Thaksin lapdog kiss A$$.

FF were always Thaksin supporters, my family wouldn't have voted for them otherwise.

FF = Thaksin party for students, all the universities voted for them.

[Baerboxer]

5 hours ago, kingstonkid said:

Future Forward just killed their party.

 

Now instead of a new fresh face, they have relegated themselves to Thaksin lapdog kiss A$$.

 

While I agree they could not stay with the PPP the smart thing for them would have been to tell both sides to go take a jump.

 

Lead if you want but when you want something passed you have to come to me.

 

FF could have been the Future now they are just a part of the past.

 

They have proven the old adage that anyone can run for election it is what you do after election that counts and they have shown that they have or had no plan other than to kiss Thaksin and worship at his feet.

 

SAD DAY FOR THAILAND

 

 

 

Sadly it looks that way. Although there are many fresh people, from all walks of life, once their leader announced they'll join PTP and serve under Thaksin's latest anointed chosen puppet, they become just more lackeys allowed at the trough.

 

If PTP do get to form a coalition, then we'll see how FF react once the lies, scams, thieving and instructions from the boss start.

[BritManToo]

3 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

Why do you think another Thaksin government, with another Thaksin government might be hope for Thailand?

Because it's what the Thai (Laos ethnic) want, and they are the majority of the population.

[Baerboxer]

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

FF were always Thaksin supporters, my family wouldn't have voted for them otherwise.

FF = Thaksin party for students, all the universities voted for them.

 

You have any evidence for any of your assertions?

 

Or did wifey tell you?

[webfact]

Urgent : Pheu Thai coalition? Don’t count on it, says Wissanu

By The Nation

 

 

Deputy Prime Minister Wissanu Krea-ngam has called Wednesday’s announcement of a Pheu Thai-led coalition preparing to form a government merely psychological strategy that will not bear fruit.
 

“The truth will be known after May 9 when the Election Commission endorses all of Sunday’s poll results,” Wissanu said soon after the anti-junta bloc of seven parties held a press conference.

 

The bloc claims to have “at least” 255 seats in hand to start building a government.

 

The final seat tally is subject to change since the commission has only announced 95 per cent of the voting results.

 

Wissanu also noted that some MPs could be issued “red or orange cards” over electoral violations, and would affect their parties’ seat counts.

 

“So, nothing is certain,” he said.

 

Full story: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30366632

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2019-03-27

[BritManToo]

3 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

You have any evidence for any of your assertions?

Or did wifey tell you?

Daughtery told me before she went outy to voty with all the other studenties.

No wifey for me, only hookery girlfriendies (rent don't buy).

[Roadman]

6 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Because it's what the Thai (Laos ethnic) want, and they are the majority of the population.

The brought uneducated lackeys only vote which is nothing to do with hope for Thailand. Hope for Thailand is generated by the policies of the usual corrupt thieving politicians voted in. A huge difference.

[BritManToo]

8 minutes ago, Roadman said:

The brought uneducated lackeys only vote which is nothing to do with hope for Thailand. Hope for Thailand is generated by the policies of the usual corrupt thieving politicians voted in. A huge difference.

The Thai government is formed from two factions,

Bangkok Siam Thais, including the rich Bangkok elite which rule the country (by force of arms), and overthrow all other government by coup.

Laos ethnic Thais who outnumber everyone else and vote for their traditional leader Thaksin, and form every democratically elected government.

 

It's a feudal society, everything else is window dressing.

 

PS. Pruyut bought most of the votes this time, then stuffed the ballots with extra votes when he thought necessary. Resulting in twice as many votes as voters.

 

 

[BritManToo]

8 minutes ago, Roadman said:

The brought uneducated lackeys only vote which is nothing to do with hope for Thailand. Hope for Thailand is generated by the policies of the usual corrupt thieving politicians voted in. A huge difference.

Educated people know 'bought' (past particle of buy) and 'brought' (past participle of bring) are different words.