huahinboilerman Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 hi all, been a Thai visa member for a little while, always read posts but never commented., have a property situation here in huahin Phetchaburi and feel like I'm between a rock and hard place. need some feedback and ideas before we bulldoze a 3 year old house project, never to return. would appreciate being routed to right forum etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Perhaps state your woes for reading folks guidance....???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petermik Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 What is the exact cause of your predicament.....then perhaps we can help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baansgr Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 If its your property do what tournament with it, however guessing you been ripped off, so if not yours be very careful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huahinboilerman Posted April 3, 2019 Author Share Posted April 3, 2019 5 years ago bought a 50 mtr x 50 mtr square of land in cha am then proceeded to design and have built a one bedroom lounge kitchen bathroom house with a fairly sophisticated water recycling system auto generator for backup etc. Etc. etc. discovered near the end of job the builder was a total tosspot, and, after he nearly killed my 5 year old son with shoddy welding on a main steel concrete gate, we through him of site. he then turned up later that night with his son knocked on the door and as soon as I opened it beat the sh1t out of me and his son attempted to attack me with a digging machete. I ran for help, called the police who as is normal didn't want to come unless bribed., had the building inspected by surveyor from bkk who condemned the property and told us not to pay the remaining 50k baht . (we had already spent 1.5 million on the house.) we have been paying a security chap to keep an eye on the house and look after the two dogs on the property., disheartened we haven't been to the property for 2.5 years when we come this week we find there has been a fire caused by a rechargeable torch bursting into flames, setting alight to a large plastic box of my sons toys filling the house with acrid soot etc. (the extent of the disfiguration was played down by the security guy ) an attempt to mitigate the state of the house he had a helper clean the property and in so doing destroyed a brand new bathroom sink, the mice and rats have eaten into all the plumbing half the wiring in the house now doesn't work. etc etc etc wife wants to pull it down sell the land breaks my heart as I personally put so much work into the damned house. we also ov course have all the brand new furniture and fridges freezers etc etc as a final we have taken legal action against the builder both civil for the property and criminal for the attack he got probation and aparantly has no funds. yet he is building all over puket etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Rocks and hard places maybe to little to little even for the sleuth masters of TVF???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Get out of there asap and rent sell it as it is and never go back sounds like it will never be a happy home and a continuous money pit good luck???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huahinboilerman Posted April 3, 2019 Author Share Posted April 3, 2019 all this <deleted> has re triggered a bad state of depression that caused me to turn to Thailand in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huahinboilerman Posted April 3, 2019 Author Share Posted April 3, 2019 wife wants to bulldoze it to the ground even though I worked for 6 weeks every year since we bought it correcting what others have fd up. am in tears just thinking about it now, stuck here for next 3 weeks itching to do something but know wife (and you) are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, huahinboilerman said: all this <deleted> has re triggered a bad state of depression that caused me to turn to Thailand in the first place You have a five year old son same as me that should keep you out of depression and into Pepa pig and Shaun the sheep works for me as the disasters unfold relentlessly around me ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunderhill Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 19 minutes ago, huahinboilerman said: 5 years ago bought a 50 mtr x 50 mtr square of land in cha am then proceeded to design and have built a one bedroom lounge kitchen bathroom house with a fairly sophisticated water recycling system auto generator for backup etc. Etc. etc. discovered near the end of job the builder was a total tosspot, and, after he nearly killed my 5 year old son with shoddy welding on a main steel concrete gate, we through him of site. he then turned up later that night with his son knocked on the door and as soon as I opened it beat the sh1t out of me and his son attempted to attack me with a digging machete. I ran for help, called the police who as is normal didn't want to come unless bribed., had the building inspected by surveyor from bkk who condemned the property and told us not to pay the remaining 50k baht . (we had already spent 1.5 million on the house.) we have been paying a security chap to keep an eye on the house and look after the two dogs on the property., disheartened we haven't been to the property for 2.5 years when we come this week we find there has been a fire caused by a rechargeable torch bursting into flames, setting alight to a large plastic box of my sons toys filling the house with acrid soot etc. (the extent of the disfiguration was played down by the security guy ) an attempt to mitigate the state of the house he had a helper clean the property and in so doing destroyed a brand new bathroom sink, the mice and rats have eaten into all the plumbing half the wiring in the house now doesn't work. etc etc etc wife wants to pull it down sell the land breaks my heart as I personally put so much work into the damned house. we also ov course have all the brand new furniture and fridges freezers etc etc as a final we have taken legal action against the builder both civil for the property and criminal for the attack he got probation and aparantly has no funds. yet he is building all over puket etc. I wouldn't trust a builder in Thailand to even pick his own nose without screwing it up, I know not much help now. I always like the way they take offence at the crap work theyve done even to the point of beating YOU UP, SCUM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taninthai Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Must have been some 1 bedroom house for 1.5 million,why pull it down just sell as an unfinished project ,you can’t leave property’s empty here the high humidity destroys everything. I built a couple of 1 bedroom places to and the same as you sacked my builder 2 months into the build unlike your builder he did not come and attack me though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunderhill Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 11 minutes ago, huahinboilerman said: all this <deleted> has re triggered a bad state of depression that caused me to turn to Thailand in the first place This is the last place in the world that can help with depression, see the amount of balcony jumpers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petermik Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 7 hours ago, gunderhill said: I wouldn't trust a builder in Thailand to even pick his own nose without screwing it up, I know not much help now. I always like the way they take offence at the crap work theyve done even to the point of beating YOU UP, SCUM We had a house built down Trang by an excellent builder 4 years ago....we can only praise his work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huahinboilerman Posted April 3, 2019 Author Share Posted April 3, 2019 its all down to a case of impulse we bought the land and I thought put up a cple of bungalows, and a pool etc like small holiday resort, I could potter about changing light bulbs etc have a beer with visitors etc but it all turned very very sour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, huahinboilerman said: its all down to a case of impulse we bought the land and I thought put up a cple of bungalows, and a pool etc like small holiday resort, I could potter about changing light bulbs etc have a beer with visitors etc but it all turned very very sour how much cash money would it take for you to walk away from the house right now, today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 34 minutes ago, huahinboilerman said: 5 years ago bought a 50 mtr x 50 mtr square of land in cha am then proceeded to design and have built a one bedroom lounge kitchen bathroom house with a fairly sophisticated water recycling system auto generator for backup etc. Etc. etc. discovered near the end of job the builder was a total tosspot, and, after he nearly killed my 5 year old son with shoddy welding on a main steel concrete gate, we through him of site. he then turned up later that night with his son knocked on the door and as soon as I opened it beat the sh1t out of me and his son attempted to attack me with a digging machete. I ran for help, called the police who as is normal didn't want to come unless bribed., had the building inspected by surveyor from bkk who condemned the property and told us not to pay the remaining 50k baht . (we had already spent 1.5 million on the house.) we have been paying a security chap to keep an eye on the house and look after the two dogs on the property., disheartened we haven't been to the property for 2.5 years when we come this week we find there has been a fire caused by a rechargeable torch bursting into flames, setting alight to a large plastic box of my sons toys filling the house with acrid soot etc. (the extent of the disfiguration was played down by the security guy ) an attempt to mitigate the state of the house he had a helper clean the property and in so doing destroyed a brand new bathroom sink, the mice and rats have eaten into all the plumbing half the wiring in the house now doesn't work. etc etc etc wife wants to pull it down sell the land breaks my heart as I personally put so much work into the damned house. we also ov course have all the brand new furniture and fridges freezers etc etc as a final we have taken legal action against the builder both civil for the property and criminal for the attack he got probation and aparantly has no funds. yet he is building all over puket etc. so you are in hua hin and know the builder is building all over phuket.... why not tell that to the police in hua hin and they can contact the ones in phuket... are we missing something here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 minute ago, huahinboilerman said: its all down to a case of impulse we bought the land and I thought put up a cple of bungalows, and a pool etc like small holiday resort, I could potter about changing light bulbs etc have a beer with visitors etc but it all turned very very sour Many of us and me for sure have made huge judgement and financial mistakes here some will haunt me forever and I now never bet on a one horse race due to falling???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanJones Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 You should have sold it as is 2.5 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Hire a couple of guys and have them beat the living daylight out of the builder and his 'son'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, Vacuum said: Hire a couple of guys and have them beat the living daylight out of the builder and his 'son'. What good would that do ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 23 minutes ago, huahinboilerman said: small holiday resort, I could potter about changing light bulbs etc have a beer with visitors etc but it all turned very very sour "Sour" yes it would have, seeing as you wouldn't have a work permit for such work..so at least a silver lining is that you didn't get "dobbed in" arrested and deported/blacklisted. Sell the land and house for a "knock down" price if a quick sale is required.. be rid of bad memories and further maintenance costs...no point knocking it down just costs you more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 6 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 42 minutes ago, petermik said: We had a house built down Trang by an excellent builder 4 years ago....we can only praise his work Where in Trang? The city is ok, but I really like the coast and islands. Thinking of Trang or Phangnha move in few years. We like both provs and wife has few friends in both as well. Krabi seems over done or done over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, sanemax said: What good would that do ? As a revenge for the attack from the builders 'son'. You know, teach him a lesson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyril sneer Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 52 minutes ago, gunderhill said: This is the last place in the world that can help with depression, see the amount of balcony jumpers. half of them are thrown off though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopDeadSenter Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Sorry to hear this story. It sounds like the main problem now is your lack of energy/ability to complete the project. I suggest you try selling the land/house as is, and let a new owner complete the house. Is that not a better situation than bulldozing it? Lot's of farang and local investors in Thailand looking for projects such as yours. All is not lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer90210 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 In Hua Hin or elsewhere in Thailand, it is a risky venture to purchase. Either you get into the hands of a rogue builder who will tempt you with cheap prices but deliver a trashy or dangerous finished house. Or one can find a reasonable quality builder/developpment, but at prices that may be very close to those in any sunny European country like Spain/Tenerife or even France. The developpments will also ask for high monthly maintenance fees for the common areas. They will also always sneakily get more cash out of the buyer for any extras or upgrades (at over rated prices) that can lure buyers during the purchase. As a farang, one can assume having close to no rights in any Thai court. Also, why gamble a court dispute with a reputable lawyer, just to further rip you off of your savings in fees. There are always exceptions but is it worth gambling one's lifes savings ? Just abide to the golden rule as with the ladies in Thailand. Never, never buy, just rent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumak Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 hour ago, huahinboilerman said: wife wants to bulldoze it to the ground even though I worked for 6 weeks every year since we bought it correcting what others have fd up. am in tears just thinking about it now, stuck here for next 3 weeks itching to do something but know wife (and you) are right. sell it ! was going to agree to bulldoze it, but no need if you just sell. STAY away in the meantime, nothing good will come of you being involved. Guess its in your wife's name ? Hopefully you can trust her. Let her deal with the sale. Or you can live there and be unhappy and put more money in. Choice ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvs Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 You have principles but are not that street smart. Have some one contact the builder,offer to pay the 50 000(security guard over the last two years must have cost a lot more already). You probably caused him to loose face one way or another and he has locals keeping an eye on you. Make peace and then you can return to the property and do whatever you want.On the upsite ,the land may have increased in value so you may only loose a little bit of money or break even. Bad experience but hopefully you and your family can go on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvs Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 hour ago, NCC1701A said: how much cash money would it take for you to walk away from the house right now, today? If you are saying what i think you are saying it is not a very nice thing to do,will not help you to become poster of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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