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4 minutes ago, ExpatPH said:

 

1. 800k requirement in Thailand. Have more than 800k, but expenses back home put me below 800k to transfer.

2. Have child here in Cebu.

Bohol might be next permanent residence.

 

Several Cebu expats i know have relocated recently to Bohol none of them wants to return to Cebu City.

 

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This evening worst air pollution area Dumaguete.

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Small Joke said:

I contracted Pneumonia in Cebu. Ended up in hospital in Clark. 

There were complications. 

I lived, but $17000 dollars later, I was glad I had renewed my insurance a mere month before. They paid in full less a tiny $100 excess.

I'm 58 which is very relevant to the discussion.

So:

 

1. Cebu is toxic.

 

2. Insurance is a good idea whether the govt. mandate it or not.

 

3. Be aware YOUR HOME Government will NOT accept you are a 'resident' of the PI on an indefinite tourist visa. You'd have to revert to the ten grand residency option.

This may not be a problem for some, until it is, then it's a BIG problem.

 

4. Want to get married? They don't accept divorce in the PI, you can divorce in your home country, even online, if you're Australian, but if you live there, divorce is just not how they roll.

 

5. Opiates (for chronic pain like Cancer) are all but impossible to find or have prescribed, I understand less than ten doctors nationwide are licenced, thanks to their all pervasive drug paranoia.

 

All valid points for older guys with inevitably deteriorating health.

 

Excellent post,

I personally was in pain worse than hell and all a top private hospital

had was morphine tablet, nothing stronger!

It was a night in extreme pain.

 

How I wish I knew what doctor who would give stronger pain relief, next time.

 

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17 minutes ago, ExpatPH said:

 

Excellent post,

I personally was in pain worse than hell and all a top private hospital

had was morphine tablet, nothing stronger!

It was a night in extreme pain.

 

How I wish I knew what doctor who would give stronger pain relief, next time.

 

I hear you, the waiting list to get a script for serious pain control is so long, with so few pain control specialists in Manila, that the rich Pinoys just fly to Bangkok for treatment if they are well enough! It's understood that Du30 is a fentanyl addict, he started on the drug to treat back pain, by his own admission. But his people can whistle Dixie if they think they'll get any sympathy from the junkie who kills junkies.

This is covered in at least one PI expat forum at length.

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Can someone tell me why the small city of Dumaguete has a much higher pollution than Cebu?

Everyone burning trash etc.?

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Thanks all of you for the useful information.



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12 hours ago, ExpatPH said:

Thanks for the pics, I think anybody who doesn't agree that the Philippines has much better beaches/cleaner waters than Thailand or the neighboring countries simply hasn't visited the real Philippines (AC & Manila don't count).

 

I remember my 1st trip to Cebu 12 years ago, stood neck deep in the water & could see my toes and all of the fish swimming around...

 

Really am tempted to give up on the Thailand Dream (only 1/2 committed at the moment as I'm still working) & retire to somewhere in the Visayas or Palawan...

 

Queue comments about the food sucks (I love Japanese & Korean food so no worries there), personal safety (a risk where ever you live) etc... 

 

 

 

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Bickering, baiting posts reported and removed.   Continue and you will face a suspension.  

 

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12 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said:

Hmmm you make it sound very dramatical and in Pattaya all was top notch for you or?

I can't speak to Pattaya (Have been several times & spent 1 month there once, never noticed any problems with air pollution) but 4-5 years ago I paid for a 30 day stay in a Condo (Trendy on Soi 13) & lasted a week before I felt like my chest was collapsing so jumped in a Taxi to Don Muang, spent the night in an airport hotel (Amari) & went back to Malaysia (Outskirts of KL) next morning.

 

NB I've since got a Condo in On Nut Bangkok & have no such problems in this part of town, which just goes to show that 1 area of a town may be bad, but another area perfectly clear. 

 

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24 minutes ago, Small Joke said:

I remember walking (stupid I know) from my digs, up near the golf club, to that little clutch of decent restaurants nearby IT park, and seeing the dust/fumes so thick they rendered opaque, the headlights of the oncoming traffic, and made me want another shower by the time I got to my table.

 

I remember dining at the delightful and seriously good bistro run by LA trained Chef Jane, next to the Mactan Yacht Club, and the unexpected deathly stench of Cebu City's answer to 'smokey mountain' wafting across the sizeable seagoing channel so frequently, it eclipsed the world class food being served.

 

I remember spending 15 days in Mexico City, (the one in America) that same year, often condemned as a pollution hell hole, with no such issues, granted, it wasn't the alps, but it was cleaner than Cebu!

 

I stand by my condemnation of the filthy city that almost killed me.

 

 

Stayed in IT Park for a couple of weeks, no problem there... Certainly no problems at one of the resorts on Mactan Islands or away from Cebu City, e.g... CarCar-to-Tarlac & around the horn to Maolboal....  Beautiful beaches, stunning seas & great air quality 

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17 minutes ago, Mike Teavee said:

Thanks for the pics, I think anybody who doesn't agree that the Philippines has much better beaches/cleaner waters than Thailand or the neighboring countries simply hasn't visited the real Philippines (AC & Manila don't count).

 

I remember my 1st trip to Cebu 12 years ago, stood neck deep in the water & could see my toes and all of the fish swimming around...

 

Really am tempted to give up on the Thailand Dream (only 1/2 committed at the moment as I'm still working) & retire to somewhere in the Visayas or Palawan...

 

Queue comments about the food sucks (I love Japanese & Korean food so no worries there), personal safety (a risk where ever you live) etc... 

 

 

 

AC don't have a beach.

 

But that aside, and based on anecdote alone, I'd suggest that Thais are less litter prone in general, than the PI.

 

Or maybe Thai sanitation is more organised? Either way, the results are what count.

 

While Du30 famously shut down some tiny Island, flew in twice -but  I can't remember the name now, for 6 months spring cleaning (a good thing in my book) you will know there are 7000 plus islands there, and most are really hard to get to en masse, vs Thailand's easy to get to coast.

 

You also fail to mention many of these beaches are 'gated' and charge a fee for non-resort residents, most Thai beaches can still be strolled on for free. Which means litter, sadly.

 

Pattaya is not representative of most Thai beaches. Comparing Manila Bay to Pattaya is the only fair comparison. And Manila Bay is a global disgrace, I'd drink Pattaya seawater before I'd swim in Manila Bay!

 

Furthermore, foreign tourists to Thailand must bear some blame, they are often low class litterbugs, the.news stories here of their other charming antics bear that out! and the PI is just too far/costly a flight,  for many of them, so they dump on Thailand instead.

 

I'm not denying there are some lovely beaches there, but you're being a little economical with the reasons why they're beautiful, in spite of the locals best attempts to literally shit on their own doorsteps.

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Cebu isn't heaven, or hell. I posted many news articles regarding air quality that local goverment and news stations find alarming. Something also international news have confirmed. This is not hysterically, this is facts.

 

Traffic jam and lack of roads vs number of vehicles, are another well known problem in news and local forums. Exhaust fumes from jeepneys, trucks, building boom, dust,  have all been reported in the news, for many years. Breathing problem in common,  and pneumonia.

 

Infrastructure lack a lot, compared to Thailand. Hospitals should be much better. Internet should be much faster, best locations here are usually 1/2 - 1/4 of Thailands internet speed.

 

Still many expats choose to stay, we adapt, we plan our day around traffic and weather, we plan atm withdrawal before holidays, we are prepared for brown out (black out) seldom in city, often weekly in some provinces. Expats with house buy generator.

 

Food wise its better than many think. Imported food , deli shop, expats who make homemade bread, bratwurst and other deli, for sale. It's certainly not as easy as Bangkok or Pattaya, but good food can be bought here too.

 

In the end, we get peace of mind that visa requirements has stayed the same for years, or inproved, in our favor!

 

Pst: can we keep on topic about Philippines

 

 

 

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19 minutes ago, Mike Teavee said:

I can't speak to Pattaya (Have been several times & spent 1 month there once, never noticed any problems with air pollution) but 4-5 years ago I paid for a 30 day stay in a Condo (Trendy on Soi 13) & lasted a week before I felt like my chest was collapsing so jumped in a Taxi to Don Muang, spent the night in an airport hotel (Amari) & went back to Malaysia (Outskirts of KL) next morning.

 

NB I've since got a Condo in On Nut Bangkok & have no such problems in this part of town, which just goes to show that 1 area of a town may be bad, but another area perfectly clear. 

 

 

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20 minutes ago, Small Joke said:

AC don't have a beach.

 

But that aside, and based on anecdote alone, I'd suggest that Thais are less litter prone in general, than the PI.

 

Or maybe Thai sanitation is more organised? Either way, the results are what count.

 

While Du30 famously shut down some tiny Island, flew in twice -but  I can't remember the name now, for 6 months spring cleaning (a good thing in my book) you will know there are 7000 plus islands there, and most are really hard to get to en masse, vs Thailand's easy to get to coast.

 

You also fail to mention many of these beaches are 'gated' and charge a fee for non-resort residents, most Thai beaches can still be strolled on for free. Which means litter, sadly.

 

Pattaya is not representative of most Thai beaches. Comparing Manila Bay to Pattaya is the only fair comparison. And Manila Bay is a global disgrace, I'd drink Pattaya seawater before I'd swim in Manila Bay!

 

Furthermore, foreign tourists to Thailand must bear some blame, they are often low class litterbugs, the.news stories here of their other charming antics bear that out! and the PI is just too far/costly a flight,  for many of them, so they dump on Thailand instead.

 

I'm not denying there are some lovely beaches there, but you're being a little economical with the reasons why they're beautiful, in spite of the locals best attempts to literally shit on their own doorsteps.

And how many of the 7,107 islands of the Philippines have you visited? (Yeah, I bought the T-Shirt on my 1st visit 🙂 ).

 

World class beaches in Boracay are free to visit (BTW, it was Boracay that D30 closed for 6 months to clean-up) but I have only ever paid to visit a beach in the Philippines when visiting a private resort (that I obviously wasn't staying at) or as part of a boat trip (Where I'm pretty sure the payment was to the crew not to the beach).

 

Public beaches are free to enter everywhere in Visayas & Palawan.... 

 

Edit: It's great to see that Thailand is following DU30's lead & closing Maya Bay (To 2021) to restore some of the damage caused by excessive tourism

 

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