Philippines 2019 for new expats

[mike787]

15 minutes ago, ExpatPH said:

 

Women 'like that' are in all countries, just take a lot of searching and even more good luck to find her. They are in Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam and all over the world.

 

Why I havent married her?

I mention a few times, I have a terminal condition and given 1 year to live, or less.

 

I understand! Thank you! Everything has a reason, regardless if it's right/wrong.  Besides, I implied marriage a right of passage.  In my opinion it's a term that serves a greater purpose for lawyers and statisticians; you're together and that will not change with documentation, ring, or sin sot.  Good luck, and remember, food is medicine too.  Throw everything at whatever your fighting...

[balo]

I think the murder rate is higher in the PH than other countries in Asia. Correct me if I'm wrong. 

 

"In 2014, the Philippines has a murder rate of 9.84 per 100,000 people, with a number of 9,784 recorded cases. The country also has the highest rate of murder cases in Southeast Asia in 2013, with a rate of 8.8, followed by Thailand."

 

Numbers for 2016 : 

 

 

 

 

[emptypockets]

44 minutes ago, mike787 said:

I see both sides here.  

 

As I was told during my divorce:  There's her side...my side...and somewhere in the middle is the truth.  

 

I don't have a dog in this fight; choosing to be neutral/objective. Therefore, I really like both Thailand and Philippines for different reasons.  Furthermore, BOTH of you have submitted very helpful perspectives.  

 

As for Thailands future pertaining to immigration:  History to date has demonstrated significant restrictions that have made Thailand no longer the Elysium of safe and easy harbor. It is still a great place, but it is changing.

I too do not have skin in the game. 

But I am concerned for some,  most probably older and financially stressed folk who may jump on the Philippines band wagon without thinking it through, only seeing the positives at this time in their lives and ignoring the negatives.

There is always a reason why some places are cheap and some places more expensive. 

Hey, go for it if that is they want and I hope they are happy. 

 

[ExpatPH]

59 minutes ago, balo said:

I think the murder rate is higher in the PH than other countries in Asia. Correct me if I'm wrong. 

 

"In 2014, the Philippines has a murder rate of 9.84 per 100,000 people, with a number of 9,784 recorded cases. The country also has the highest rate of murder cases in Southeast Asia in 2013, with a rate of 8.8, followed by Thailand."

 

Numbers for 2016 : 

 

 

 

 

 

Thailand

 

http://factsanddetails.com/southeast-asia/Thailand/sub5_8f/entry-3280.html

 

Costa rica, another popular expat destination,

12.1 per 100.000

 

https://www.voanews.com/a/costa-rica-record-murder-rate/4190033.html

 

Latin america, another expat destination,

24 per 100.000

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/400-murders-a-day-the-crisis-of-latin-america-1537455390

 

Colombia, another expat destination,

24.4 per 100.000

 

http://www.financecolombia.com/colombia-homicide-rate-2016-nations-lowest-since-1974/

 

Demonican republic, another expat destination,

20 per 100.000

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-dominicanrepublic-crime-idUSBREA2D1VG20140314

 

Venezuela, another expat destination,

58 per 100.000

 

http://time.com/4341450/venezuela-state-of-emergency-murder-caracas/

 

Worldwide ranking list.

 

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/murder-rates-by-country.html

 

 

Edited April 8, 2019 by ExpatPH

[ExpatPH]

Was 'war on drugs' in PH excluded or included in those numbers?

I don't doubt the numbers, local tv report it daily.

 

In SEA Myanmar ranked with 15,2 per 100.000 Most in SEA.

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

1 hour ago, ExpatPH said:

 

Thailand are unique and offer western quality and frills, that most of us are used to back home.

Philippines and Cambodia doesn't offer western quality same Thailand.

 

The BEEF/STEAKS in your supermarket photos looked pretty darned good.  I think my beef/steak eating experience there would be a considerable improvement, based on your photos!  Beef in Thailand is mostly either c**p local or very expensive U.S. or Aussie imports (except for Thai-French local beef).

 

[ExpatPH]

10 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

The BEEF/STEAKS in your supermarket photos looked pretty darned good.  I think my beef/steak eating experience there would be a considerable improvement, based on your photos!  Beef in Thailand is mostly either c**p local or very expensive U.S. or Aussie imports (except for Thai-French local beef).

 

 

Depends of the Chef ????

Its like going to a restaurant here.

1 restaurant have 9 oz rib-eye on the menu for 1700 peso.

Another restaurant have identical rib-eye for 999 peso.

Guess which is best? The cheapest one.

A Chef can kill a good ribeye.

Edited April 8, 2019 by ExpatPH

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

4 minutes ago, ExpatPH said:

Another restaurant have identical rib-eye for 999 peso.

600+ baht for a half pound imported rib-eye would be a steal here... very hard and unlikely to find, I think.

[ExpatPH]

1 minute ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

600+ baht for a half pound imported rib-eye would be a steal here... very hard and unlikely to find, I think.

 

Its tender, and I'm a regular guest.

The bad: only 1/2 inch in thickness here.

The good: no gristle so easy to chew.

 

[ExpatPH]

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

1 minute ago, ExpatPH said:

 

You're KILLING me!!!!   

 

Expat, do the locals there raise and slaughter their own beef for food. Or is pretty much everything you showed in your photos coming in as imports?

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

U.S. top sirloin boneless for the equiv of 525 baht or so per kilo... I'll take that!

 

 

And this pretty much looks like a frozen ribeye, and nicely marbled and thick cut... But I can't quite make out the local per kilo pricing on that.  Though the price for that particular steak would be about 740b equivalent.

 

Edited April 8, 2019 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[ExpatPH]

Locals here eat local produced pork, pork, pork, some chicken, and fish. Seldom / never beef or steaks.

 

Locals raise pork in numbers you wouldn't believe. Its supposed to be for their small piggery, but most pig get slaughtered  before age 2 and eaten by the family.

 

Fresh meat in photos taken in supermarket, are local produce.

Imports are the frozen steaks in photos mostly from New Zeland.

 

Btw, are you hungry? haha

[baansgr]

2 hours ago, emptypockets said:

I too do not have skin in the game. 

But I am concerned for some,  most probably older and financially stressed folk who may jump on the Philippines band wagon without thinking it through, only seeing the positives at this time in their lives and ignoring the negatives.

There is always a reason why some places are cheap and some places more expensive. 

Hey, go for it if that is they want and I hope they are happy. 

 

You keep citing cheap as the reason.....its not the cost in Thailand that is making people move, its the feeling and treatment towards foreigners that is making people move.

[madmen]

8 minutes ago, baansgr said:

You keep citing cheap as the reason.....its not the cost in Thailand that is making people move, its the feeling and treatment towards foreigners that is making people move.

I know a lot of people and not a single one moved because of being unloved, seriously what sort of idiot would do that? You think they are going to Cambodia for free hugs? Leaving because one is running out of money or health issues makes total sense.

Edited April 8, 2019 by madmen

[ExpatPH]

5 minutes ago, baansgr said:

its not the cost in Thailand that is making people move, its the feeling and treatment towards foreigners that is making people move.

 

+1

Most come to a point where they had more than enough. And then some.

If people here could be honest when they post, most of them know of expats who already left, last 2 years, and increased last 2 months. They know why expats left: Immigration.

Expats had 800.000+ per year but not in thai bank, so living cost in TH has nothing to do with their leaving.

 

[Destiny1990]

20 minutes ago, madmen said:

I know a lot of people and not a single one moved because of being unloved, seriously what sort of idiot would do that? You think they are going to Cambodia for free hugs? Leaving because one is running out of money or health issues makes total sense.

U dont make sense urself.

if u notice in a country that year after year its getting more complicated and more of a hassle to met all the latest requirements to stay then why not look to at another country where this is not happening.

most countries welcome retirees staying in their country. Maybe u dont mind feeling unwelcome but others do mind that.

 

Edited April 8, 2019 by Destiny1990

[emptypockets]

1 hour ago, ExpatPH said:

Was 'war on drugs' in PH excluded or included in those numbers?

I don't doubt the numbers, local tv report it daily.

 

In SEA Myanmar ranked with 15,2 per 100.000 Most in SEA.

 

Don't doubt those figures.  One of the reasons I like living here.  No bullshit at all.  Cops never come out of the station.  Just collect the tax on the ice going to Chiang aRai. 

[madmen]

1 minute ago, Destiny1990 said:

U dont make sense urself.

if u notice in a country that year after year its getting more complicated and more of a hassle to met all the latest requirements to stay then why not look to at another country where this is not happening.

most countries welcome retirees staying in their country.

 

The 5 reasons that people leave Thailand.

1, money 

2, money

3, money

4, money

5.health..broken heart

 

Whats changed ? put your 800k or 65k in and your sweet. Or are you somehow being targeted by thais? in which case you should look at your own behavior. The rest of us live in peace without any more drama than anywhere else.

[Destiny1990]

3 minutes ago, madmen said:

The 5 reasons that people leave Thailand.

1, money 

2, money

3, money

4, money

5.health..broken heart

 

Whats changed ? put your 800k or 65k in and your sweet. Or are you somehow being targeted by thais? in which case you should look at your own behavior. The rest of us live in peace without any more drama than anywhere else.

Question why do u think that the foreigner retirees in the Philippines at this moment are not debating about wether relocating to Thailand??

(Don't worry i do have 800 k)

[emptypockets]

13 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said:

U dont make sense urself.

if u notice in a country that year after year its getting more complicated and more of a hassle to met all the latest requirements to stay then why not look to at another country where this is not happening.

most countries welcome retirees staying in their country. Maybe u dont mind feeling unwelcome but others do mind that.

 

Which countries welcome penniless retirees? Get real that is what this thread is all about.  People who can longer fund their stay in Thailand.  It's not about retirees choosing to move.... It's s about having to move. 

[Destiny1990]

8 minutes ago, madmen said:

The 5 reasons that people leave Thailand.

1, money 

2, money

3, money

4, money

5.health..broken heart

 

Whats changed ? put your 800k or 65k in and your sweet. Or are you somehow being targeted by thais? in which case you should look at your own behavior. The rest of us live in peace without any more drama than anywhere else.

How exactly u think i can stay in Thailand while being under 50 years?

Elite i dont want as i dont plan 20 years ahead.

why i cant simply pay 25 k for a year visa with unlimited coming and goings? 

what the whole problem?

[Destiny1990]

3 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

Which countries welcome penniless retirees? Get real that is what this thread is all about.  People who can longer fund their stay in Thailand.  It's not about retirees choosing to move.... It's s about having to move. 

Than don’t go to Phills because it ain’t cheaper there..

[emptypockets]

2 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said:

How exactly u think i can stay in Thailand while being under 50 years?

Elite i dont want as i dont plan 20 years ahead.

why i cant simply pay 25 k for a year visa with unlimited coming and goings? 

what the whole problem?

What make you think you stay anywhere because you have money

 

you are not special.

You have no special rights. 

Deal with it 

[emptypockets]

2 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said:

Than don’t go to Phills because it ain’t cheaper there..

No intention to

 Thanks for the heads up!

[Jingthing]

26 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

Which countries welcome penniless retirees? Get real that is what this thread is all about.  People who can longer fund their stay in Thailand.  It's not about retirees choosing to move.... It's s about having to move. 

It's not about affording Thailand, it's the visa rules and visa changes.

There are many nations that have financial requirements well under Thailand's levels.

There is no direct relation between visa requirement financial requirements and the actual cost to live in a place.

It's dumb and simplistic to think that everyone leaving, everyone being forced out, everyone thinking about leaving because of the visa changes is leaving because they can't afford Thailand.

 

Edited April 8, 2019 by Jingthing

[emptypockets]

8 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

It's not about affording Thailand, it's the visa rules and visa changes.

There are many nations that have financial requirements well under Thailand's levels.

There is no direct relation between visa requirement financial requirements and the actual cost to live in a place.

It's dumb and simplistic to think that everyone leaving, everyone being forced out, everyone thinking about leaving because of the visa changes is leaving because they can't afford Thailand.

 

Well let's  agree to disagree on that point.  It's  always about the money. 

[Luckysilk]

55 minutes ago, madmen said:

The 5 reasons that people leave Thailand.

1, money 

2, money

3, money

4, money

5.health..broken heart

 

Whats changed ? put your 800k or 65k in and your sweet. Or are you somehow being targeted by thais? in which case you should look at your own behavior. The rest of us live in peace without any more drama than anywhere else.

Yep and the rest is just noise. 

 

[DJ54]

On 4/4/2019 at 3:04 PM, ExpatPH said:

no piss test etc.

Piss test for DL...

[Destiny1990]

45 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

Well let's  agree to disagree on that point.  It's  always about the money. 

Yes it is only about the money according to dumb and simplistic people.

Edited April 8, 2019 by Destiny1990