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Just got user name and password after one month but a day after a second application where I included the house purchase document they wanted to see as well as ID and pages from the blue house book.

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How do you fill it in? i can see enter check in from and check out date from, for hotels. What about if you are not checking out do you just put the date you arrived and the date your extension ends as check out date?

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5 hours ago, mikebell said:

A foreigner cannot own a house as I have found to my cost.  The Company route means the asset (house) is always 51% Thai owned.  My unscrupulous Audit company (when I signed 46 documents for annual tax purposes all in Thai) had me awarding my wife far more shares than I wanted which together with the other minority share holding resulted in me losing a 4 million house for 1.2 million AFTER lawyers fees/court costs etc.  Thailand's property laws are a racist, medieval scam aided and abetted by a cartel of house agents; audit companies; lawyers; even courts.  My (soon-to-be) ex declared 'No court will find in favour of a farang.  This is Thailand.'

I am a sadder wiser man; my farang children's inheritance is severely depleted.

You presumably mean the land. The idea of using a company ownership is to protect yourself and many would argue that making your wife a shareholder is counter productive. 

I will not deny it is a minefield of corruption, but I am not a fan of a lease either. I too have heard horror stories. IE of a friend with a palatial 12 mil property trying to sell and wind up the company, ending up with 4 mil! I can only take solace in the fact I have had the place for 10+ years now, far far better than living in a condo, and have nearly got my money's worth out of it. 

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3 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

How do you fill it in? i can see enter check in from and check out date from, for hotels. What about if you are not checking out do you just put the date you arrived and the date your extension ends as check out date?

Put 'None' or 'Unknown'.

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6 hours ago, mikebell said:

A foreigner cannot own a house as I have found to my cost.  The Company route means the asset (house) is always 51% Thai owned.  My unscrupulous Audit company (when I signed 46 documents for annual tax purposes all in Thai) had me awarding my wife far more shares than I wanted which together with the other minority share holding resulted in me losing a 4 million house for 1.2 million AFTER lawyers fees/court costs etc.  Thailand's property laws are a racist, medieval scam aided and abetted by a cartel of house agents; audit companies; lawyers; even courts.  My (soon-to-be) ex declared 'No court will find in favour of a farang.  This is Thailand.'

I am a sadder wiser man; my farang children's inheritance is severely depleted.

 

This is rubbish, you simply got scammed.

 

You can own a house perfectly fine in your own name outside of a companies balance sheet.

Superficies, Usufructs, Leases etc can all be done additionally to the company stuff...

 

Also auditing companies don't award shares at all ... nothing todo with their job. Go to a real one a la KPMG, Mazars, Deloitte...

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I havent been to Thailand for about 6 years so I am reading through the forum to try and get upto date on the changes regarding visa's and regulations. I am a genuine tourist and my next trip I will travelling around alot and not spending more than a few weeks in 1 place. Will the hotels fill out the TM30 when I arrive and does that mean I have nothing to worry about concerning the TM30. I did read through the forum to try and find the information but couldnt find it.

 

 

 

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17 minutes ago, returningtolos19 said:

Will the hotels fill out the TM30 when I arrive and does that mean I have nothing to worry about concerning the TM30.

Hotels are required to do the TM30 form. You should not need to worry about the reporting.

If you need to do something at immigration be prepared to show a receipt for the hotel.

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4 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Hotels are required to do the TM30 form. You should not need to worry about the reporting.

If you need to do something at immigration be prepared to show a receipt for the hotel.

Ok Thanks. I might be staying with friends for a few days to a week in there house in Chang mai, not confirmed yet. Would it then become my responsibility to get the TM30 conmpleted. I will be applying for 1 month extensions on my 60 day tourist visa's so don't want to run into problems at the immigration offices. 

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15 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Hotels are required to do the TM30 form. You should not need to worry about the reporting.

If you need to do something at immigration be prepared to show a receipt for the hotel.

Aren't you responsible for paying the fine if the hotel does not do it?  I was the possessor of the hotel room same as I was the possessor of the apartment or condo or ........ 

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3 minutes ago, returningtolos19 said:

Ok Thanks. I might be staying with friends for a few days to a week in there house in Chang mai, not confirmed yet. Would it then become my responsibility to get the TM30 conmpleted. I will be applying for 1 month extensions on my 60 day tourist visa's so don't want to run into problems at the immigration offices. 

You friends should do the TM30 report. No need for them to do it unless you are going to apply for the extension while in Chiang Mai.

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4 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

Aren't you responsible for paying the fine if the hotel does not do it?  I was the possessor of the hotel room same as I was the possessor of the apartment or condo or ........ 

Many immigration offices will not push an individual to do the report if they have proof they stayed in hotel. Some have even contacted the hotel about the report to push them to do it. Immigration can put pressure on hotels and etc since they can be fined up to 10k baht for not doing it.

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On 4/5/2019 at 10:00 PM, DaRoadrunner said:

Are we able to make such a report, bearing in mind that Farang are not supposed to own a house?

 

Which Immigration offices will accept?

Foreigners can own a house, just not the land it sits on.  

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7 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

You friends should do the TM30 report. No need for them to do it unless you are going to apply for the extension while in Chiang Mai.

Sorry for all the questions but don't want to make any mistakes. Say for example i applied for the visa extension in phuket after i had been to chang mai and i had a gap of 2 weeks were i had no TM30 entries while i was staying in chang mai, would this be okay, 

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7 pages on this thread alone. Plus several other threads, yet still no clarity. Talk about Monty python. Experts stating (depends which office you use). Mind you that applies to every aspect of dealing with Thai immigration. How many posts referring to complexity of online registration. How to register. The list goes on and on and not just about TM30. 

I fly out of los every other week and trips within los pretty much every week. How would one attend CW after every return. Many people talk about "the hotel owner/manager or whatever. Yeah that's fine for people that live in hotels. I like many live in condo where everyone has a lease. There is no reception desk like a hotel. Last weekend I spent in Saigon. The staff here would not even know I went and returned. Just so many ridiculous nonsensical requirements. And yes save me ...if you don't like it leave

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On 5/30/2019 at 11:04 PM, fertilizer said:

ID/passport and housebook are needed when you register to be accepted to use online TM30 reporting so guess not needed when you make a TM30 online report. Done this registration myself and got username and password by email within 24 hours. 

Does that mean I can use my own yellow house book and pink Thai ID?  

 

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