welovesundaysatspace Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 1 hour ago, vogie said: Is it possible to have another "once in a lifetime referendum"???????????? I certainly hope that the 2016 referendum on pink unicorns was a once in a lifetime mistake, and that a potential referendum on Brexit will also be a once in a lifetime referendum. 26 minutes ago, nev said: Not happy with the result so now have another which will have the same outcome and even bigger majority. Alright, let’s do this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 13 minutes ago, evadgib said: Keep watching as exciting as paint drying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, vogie said: Brexit hasn't failed, parliament has failed miserably. So show us your (not failed) Brexit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoon Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 1 hour ago, malagateddy said: Do not worry..if I am any judge..more than 17.4 million would vote for NO DEAL.!!! Sent from my SM-G7102 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app It will need a lot more than 17.4 million either way. There will have to be a bill to authorise the referendum and it will be framed a lot more tightly next time. One example of the tightening will be a requirement for a supermajority. The reset button will have been pushed, the 2016 referendum will be held to be irrelevant (as everybody knows it already is) and failure to achieve a supermajority will mean that the default position before the next referendum (UK in the Union) will be maintained. And that will be an end to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 18 minutes ago, vogie said: Brexit hasn't failed, parliament has failed miserably. ....and will pay the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 My thoughts on the cliche's from the usual culprits are well documented ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malagateddy Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 You’re no judge.Better one than you..though you'd lose me with usa politicsSent from my SM-G7102 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, malagateddy said: Which part of the usa are you from again? Sent from my SM-G7102 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Don't you people ever get tired of making these pointless, unproveable and stupid allegations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 22 minutes ago, evadgib said: ....and will pay the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Reported off topic posts removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya46 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 54 minutes ago, Basil B said: According to the TVF Brexiteers they are 17.4 million and do not have to get out of bed to protest, sign petitions, march, etc. // They were... How many of the old retirees who voted for Brexit are today dead already ? How many young people who were not old enough are now 18+ and able to vote ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoon Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, Pattaya46 said: They were... How many of the old retirees who voted for Brexit are today dead already ? How many young people who were not old enough are now 18+ and able to vote ? Funny you should say that. Was not going to post this but: In January 2019 Britain will officially switch from a pro-Brexit to an anti ... https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/2289117/how-many-of-the-17-4-million-who-voted-leave-have-now-died-statistically-speaking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliss Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 17 minutes ago, Enoon said: Funny you should say that. Was not going to post this but: In January 2019 Britain will officially switch from a pro-Brexit to an anti ... https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/2289117/how-many-of-the-17-4-million-who-voted-leave-have-now-died-statistically-speaking Still a few of the old farts breathing Gods good air . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliss Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Basil B said: as exciting as paint drying. Thai movies , exiting more . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetCowboy Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 2 hours ago, vogie said: Is it possible to have another "once in a lifetime referendum"???????????? Unlike Scottish independence, this was not billed as a "once in a lifetime" opportunity. Personally, I think that a second referendum would further undermine the sovereignty of parliament, and unless people feel the full pain of the consequences of their decisions, they will keep on acting in ignorance. My wife, and the social welfare busybodies, did not agree with my approach to parenting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetCowboy Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said: So show us your (not failed) Brexit. It's working a treat, though not to the benefit of the British public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laddy123 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 A No Deal scenario has been provided with a Royal Assent. No such optipn is lawful. No deal does not exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arithai12 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 5 hours ago, Justin Side said: Putting it back to the people is the only democratic way to go. I cannot see why anyone would disagree with this. Apart from the right wing extremists of course. Of course. And how many times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nontabury Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 4 hours ago, SheungWan said: Hard Brexit failure 1: March 29 Hard Brexit failure 2: April 12. Anti Democracy 1: March 29 Anti Democracy 2: April 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nontabury Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 4 hours ago, Pattaya46 said: They were... How many of the old retirees who voted for Brexit are today dead already ? How many young people who were not old enough are now 18+ and able to vote ? And how many immigrants from the E.u. Have now acquired British citizenship, thus allowing them to vote and support remain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nontabury Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 2 hours ago, bristolboy said: As the moderators have made explicitly and for some, painfully, clear, questioning the nationality of a poster is irrelevant and worse. What's more, it's stupid since what matters is knowledge. And neither ignorance nor knowledge are confined to those who are citizens of the UK. But it only effects the British people. Therefore they are the important ones. Try sticking your nose in Thai politics and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welovesundaysatspace Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 2 hours ago, nontabury said: And how many immigrants from the E.u. Have now acquired British citizenship, thus allowing them to vote and support remain. Even more reason for a referendum or to remain then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welovesundaysatspace Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 2 hours ago, nontabury said: Anti Democracy 1: March 29 Anti Democracy 2: April 12 A democratically elected parliament and government have made democratic decisions within its constitutional mandate. You Brexiteers are clearly abusing the word democracy for your petty little failing fight against our society and economy. Get a life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dick dasterdly Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 12 hours ago, geoffbezoz said: He is stating the obvious really. Other then to a blind right wing Brexiteer it is obvious that only a second referendum will resolve the issue. Hopefully this time it will be based on facts rather than fear mongering and free of bribes to the DUP. This time it needs to ask the question to voters do you agree with the Brexit agreement as currently negotiated Terms or not ? A No vote should automatically trigger the revocation of Article 50 to ensure no further ambiguity. So you think another referendum should only give the option to accept the eu/may brino deal, and if that brino deal is rejected by the electorate we automatically remain? i.e. no chance of voting to leave, the option that 'won' in the '16 referendum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malagateddy Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 D/d..Please don't waste your precious time with the ultra remoaners.Just let them waffle on as democracy is only a good thing when it suits them So you think another referendum should only give the option to accept the eu/may brino deal, and if that brino deal is rejected by the electorate we automatically remain? i.e. no chance of voting to leave, the option that 'won' in the '16 referendum!Sent from my SM-G7102 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 5 hours ago, nontabury said: And how many immigrants from the E.u. Have now acquired British citizenship, thus allowing them to vote and support remain. One of the arguments made by Brexiteers wrt to British citizens living in Europe, and hence most impacted by the result, being denied a vote was ‘well electoral law only gives the vote to British citizens living in the UK’. well that is correct. Now you seem to have a problem with British citizens living in the UK having a vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, malagateddy said: D/d.. Please don't waste your precious time with the ultra remoaners. Just let them waffle on as democracy is only a good thing when it suits them Sent from my SM-G7102 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Because of course the referendum result put a stop to people holding and expressing an opinion that you don’t agree with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dick dasterdly Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said: Because of course the referendum result put a stop to people holding and expressing an opinion that you don’t agree with. Not at all sure how this post has anything to do with the points being made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dick dasterdly Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said: One of the arguments made by Brexiteers wrt to British citizens living in Europe, and hence most impacted by the result, being denied a vote was ‘well electoral law only gives the vote to British citizens living in the UK’. well that is correct. Now you seem to have a problem with British citizens living in the UK having a vote. Not at all - another post that is just wrong. Brits. living abroad for less than 15 (?) years can vote, and I haven't seen anyone arguing that this is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said: Not at all - another post that is just wrong. Brits. living abroad for less than 15 (?) years can vote, and I haven't seen anyone arguing that this is wrong. Thanks for the correction. Adding the 15 year stipulation corrects my statement wrt British citizens overseas. Where is the argument against British citizens in the UK having a vote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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